Instead of building fully autonomous vehicles, just use a robot to drive the one you have.

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If we will have a robot for mowing the lawn, doing the laundry, and various other things, why not have them drive your car as well? An autonomous vehicle can only do one thing.
 

While not a robot, I have used Waymo a few times when I do need to use a ride service. However, the entire fleet was recalled a couple of days ago after one of the cars ran into a telephone pole while parking itself. I'll continue to use it when I needed once they update things with the software. I have taken Lyft before and while most of the drivers are fine, I have had a few drivers I did not feel safe with. I feel safer using Waymo and ....no tipping required !
 
While not a robot, I have used Waymo a few times when I do need to use a ride service. However, the entire fleet was recalled a couple of days ago after one of the cars ran into a telephone pole while parking itself. I'll continue to use it when I needed once they update things with the software. I have taken Lyft before and while most of the drivers are fine, I have had a few drivers I did not feel safe with. I feel safer using Waymo and ....no tipping required !
Sounds very useful. They are probably not going to come up with a do-everything-bot, but if they do, it would be pretty cool.
 
The DOO-BOT, now that's great, but what if it goes out on Strikes. All of them Connected continuously striking.
A Civilized group of Strike Victims. 100,000,000's and all a walking. Humanity returns to the Caves. Those
Robot Vaccuum Cleaners are Nutz. Every 5 minutes they return to their station and make tons of strange noises.
So, you got one driving your car, you can't hear your music or yourselves think. So you amp up yours and drive
your neighborhood nutz too.

There are so many Tire Carcasses and Dead Deer on the highways. Even Stoves, Chairs and hot water heaters.
The other day a Motorcycle, Crotch Rocket and Victims laying at an intersection. Then there were the Trees from
Straight line winds on the Road.
 
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The DOO-BOT, now that's great, but what if it goes out on Strikes. All of them Connected continuously striking.
A Civilized group of Strike Victims. 100,000,000's and all a walking. Humanity returns to the Caves. Those
Robot Vaccuum Cleaners are Nutz. Every 5 minutes they return to their station and make tons of strange noises.
So, you got one driving your car, you can't hear your music or yourselves think. So you amp up yours and drive
your neighborhood nutz too.

There are so many Tire Carcasses and Dead Deer on the highways. Even Stoves, Chairs and hot water heaters.
The other day a Motorcycle, Crotch Rocket and Victims laying at an intersection. Then there were the Trees from
Straight line winds on the Road.
Ha ha. Not sure what they would go on strike for. More electricity, or joint lube, new paint job?
Looks like someone is going to have to invent a better robot muffler if they get too noisy.
 
While not a robot, I have used Waymo a few times when I do need to use a ride service. However, the entire fleet was recalled a couple of days ago after one of the cars ran into a telephone pole while parking itself. I'll continue to use it when I needed once they update things with the software. I have taken Lyft before and while most of the drivers are fine, I have had a few drivers I did not feel safe with. I feel safer using Waymo and ....no tipping required !
I had to google Waymo, had no idea what it is. (Takes a while for info. about newfangled stuff to reach us out here in the boonies.) Looks like they're only available in 4 (!) cities here in the U.S. (one city which I'd love to live in but not being a multi-millionaire, no chance.) All these good ideas which are only for the metropolitan areas sigh. Why don't I just up and move to a metro area, you ask? Welp, even if Huzz would agree, no way we could afford it.

Even if some visionary did come up with ideas to bring even just some of this stuff to us country dwellers, I betcha most of my neighbors'd vote/protest against it, sigh. "Keep your fancy-pants, evil, big-city ways outta here! We want to live in the 19th century!" (Not me; I'd love it but I'm in the minority around here.)
 
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If we will have a robot for mowing the lawn, doing the laundry, and various other things, why not have them drive your car as well? An autonomous vehicle can only do one thing.

One robot form suits one purpose, and not another. With autonomous vehicles, you don't need any robot, just a computer on board.

Personally, I love to drive, and an autonomous vehicle isn't something I care for. Maybe for Taxi's and the like?
 
One robot form suits one purpose, and not another. With autonomous vehicles, you don't need any robot, just a computer on board.

Personally, I love to drive, and an autonomous vehicle isn't something I care for. Maybe for Taxi's and the like?
Apparently, Tokyo is working on it with a human form. It's just in the early stages, so who knows if it will succeed, but if it does, I could visualize it doing other things. As Yoda would say "Impossible to see, the future is".

MSN
 
Apparently, Tokyo is working on it with a human form. It's just in the early stages, so who knows if it will succeed, but if it does, I could visualize it doing other things. As Yoda would say "Impossible to see, the future is".

MSN

I assume it's about "human form" to make it more comfortable for people to interact with. Beyond that, I wonder if there are other advantages to using the human form? I mean, we're not very tall, we're not entirely stable on two limbs, and our points of articulation are vulnerable.

Keep in mind, I have conversations with my dog. I mean, given the choice between a humanoid robot and a doggy one, I'm probably going doggy. :D
 
This just came into my mailbox about AI tech. :)

"Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?


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JUNE 14, 2024 REPORT
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Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?

by Bob Yirka , Tech Xplore

Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?
Autonomous driving by musculoskeletal humanoids. Credit: arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573

A team of roboticists at the University of Tokyo has taken a new approach to autonomous driving—instead of automating the entire car, simply put a robot in the driver's seat. The group built a robot capable of driving a car and tested it on a real-world track. They also published a paper describing their efforts on the arXiv preprint server.
Virtually all efforts to build a self-driving car have focused on making the car itself autonomous—humans sit in the passenger seat or in the back. These efforts involve adding a host of sensors in addition to processing power. They have also been met with mixed results.
In this new effort, the research team wondered if it might not be easier and cheaper simply to build a robot that can be taught how to drive a car and put it in the driver's seat of a normal vehicle. To find out if that might be possible, they built such a robot and tested it on a track at the University of Tokyo's Kashiwa Campus.
The robot is named Musashi and it was designed to operate in much the same way as a human car driver. To that end, the researchers created what they describe as a "musculoskeletal humanoid"—a robot with two arms and two legs, with feet and hands, a torso, neck and head.
Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?
The movable eye unit, the flexible musculoskeletal hand with machined springsand the foot with six-axis core-shell structural force sensors. Credit: arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573
They also gave it movable eyes, each equipped with a high-resolution camera. The jointed arms have hands with five digits, and the feet have "grippiness" to ensure precise control of the gas pedal and brake. The robot has a computer, of course, with software for training and to serve as the brains of the robot when driving.
After building their robot, the research team put it in a small electric car and then sent it off for some test driving. In addition to simply driving around, the robot was tested on its ability to recognize and respond to objects in its path, including humans.
The team reports that initial testing was encouraging, though they acknowledge that Musashi is a long way from being ready to drive on a public road.
Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?
Humanoid Musashi. Credit: arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573
They plan to continue their work to find out if improvements would lead to a robot being able to drive better, or at least more safely, than the average human being.
More information: Kento Kawaharazuka et al, Toward Autonomous Driving by Musculoskeletal Humanoids: A Study of Developed Hardware and Learning-Based Software, arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573
Journal information: arXiv"


Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?
 
If I invent Radar , Sonar, see in the dark and auto steer and auto Brake and Auto Park and get me to work now, put it into an uncompromising large GB memory of programming, will I be a Genius?

Who forgot the most important part, a heart? But what if my arms pull off or a foot or both feet maybe legs so I can't even crawl away from the burning wreck. Will I be to blame, you know only my brain can testify and you know how my brain works don't we. Maybe my head will just spin off of confusion.

But you know, one is driving and for no explainable reason they pull into a parking lot and buy a bag of Cheetos and a Vape. When they return to the highway to find an Airplane took out the lane of traffic and then a gas explosion took out the rest. WTH with luck. You know I found several times that delays played a part in my life too. What if my pregaming refuses to delay the time frame of what then happened.
 
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This just came into my mailbox about AI tech. :)

"Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?


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JUNE 14, 2024 REPORT
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Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?

by Bob Yirka , Tech Xplore

Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?'s seat instead of automating the car?
Autonomous driving by musculoskeletal humanoids. Credit: arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573

A team of roboticists at the University of Tokyo has taken a new approach to autonomous driving—instead of automating the entire car, simply put a robot in the driver's seat. The group built a robot capable of driving a car and tested it on a real-world track. They also published a paper describing their efforts on the arXiv preprint server.
Virtually all efforts to build a self-driving car have focused on making the car itself autonomous—humans sit in the passenger seat or in the back. These efforts involve adding a host of sensors in addition to processing power. They have also been met with mixed results.
In this new effort, the research team wondered if it might not be easier and cheaper simply to build a robot that can be taught how to drive a car and put it in the driver's seat of a normal vehicle. To find out if that might be possible, they built such a robot and tested it on a track at the University of Tokyo's Kashiwa Campus.
The robot is named Musashi and it was designed to operate in much the same way as a human car driver. To that end, the researchers created what they describe as a "musculoskeletal humanoid"—a robot with two arms and two legs, with feet and hands, a torso, neck and head.
Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?'s seat instead of automating the car?
The movable eye unit, the flexible musculoskeletal hand with machined springsand the foot with six-axis core-shell structural force sensors. Credit: arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573
They also gave it movable eyes, each equipped with a high-resolution camera. The jointed arms have hands with five digits, and the feet have "grippiness" to ensure precise control of the gas pedal and brake. The robot has a computer, of course, with software for training and to serve as the brains of the robot when driving.
After building their robot, the research team put it in a small electric car and then sent it off for some test driving. In addition to simply driving around, the robot was tested on its ability to recognize and respond to objects in its path, including humans.
The team reports that initial testing was encouraging, though they acknowledge that Musashi is a long way from being ready to drive on a public road.
Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?'s seat instead of automating the car?
Humanoid Musashi. Credit: arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573
They plan to continue their work to find out if improvements would lead to a robot being able to drive better, or at least more safely, than the average human being.
More information: Kento Kawaharazuka et al, Toward Autonomous Driving by Musculoskeletal Humanoids: A Study of Developed Hardware and Learning-Based Software, arXiv (2024). DOI: 10.48550/arxiv.2406.05573
Journal information: arXiv"


Researchers wonder what if you just put a robot in the driver's seat instead of automating the car?
Thanks for sharing. It's still a concept in testing, but it could be a game changer if they can work out the kinks.
 
Aren't Golf Carts on Highways dangerous at all speeds?
Golf carts with Autonomous drivers, now that makes sense
on a Golf Course. Let them deal with getting hit by Balls. Haha
Now you have Ai following the Golfer hauling his clubs like a good boy.
 


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