Interesting News Conference

win231 said:
I'm also a living miracle. I haven't stayed home since the beginning, no vaccine & during a recent (unrelated) ER visit, was given 2 negative Covid tests.
The hospital was almost deserted, doctors standing around chatting, 2 people in the waiting room, no patients in hallways.
And I didn't see a single refrigerated meat truck full of Covid corpses in the hospital parking lot (as reported).
A miracle, I tell ya! 😂
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Interesting, cause our hospital ERs seem to be packed with NON-COVID patients all the time for years. You know, before Covid was born. Packed with injuries, car accident patients, stroke, heart attacks, etc, and tons of snotty children ill with all manner of things.

I can only conclude the ER you go to is, well, crappy; and people avoid it. And you avoid people so it’s a great ER for you.

As for refrigerated trucks, I do not know why you keep harping on this or why you think people dying of Covid or whatever you want to claim they died of us funny. It’s not. We all saw the trucks, on live tv, in NYC when this really hit us hard. We saw the wrapped corpses. The crying families.

You are being so disrespectful and insensitive to members of the forum who have lost loved ones to a Covid diagnosis-whether or not you believe the diagnosis was correct or not. You should apologize @win231
 

Aneeda72 said:
Interesting, cause our hospital ERs seem to be packed with NON-COVID patients all the time for years. You know, before Covid was born. Packed with injuries, car accident patients, stroke, heart attacks, etc, and tons of snotty children ill with all manner of things.

I can only conclude the ER you go to is, well, crappy; and people avoid it. And you avoid people so it’s a great ER for you.

As for refrigerated trucks, I do not know why you keep harping on this or why you think people dying of Covid or whatever you want to claim they died of us funny. It’s not. We all saw the trucks, on live tv, in NYC when this really hit us hard. We saw the wrapped corpses. The crying families.

You are being so disrespectful and insensitive to members of the forum who have lost loved ones to a Covid diagnosis-whether or not you believe the diagnosis was correct or not. You should apologize @win231
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The hospital I went to is one of the largest & most highly-rated, Providence St. Joseph. As for "Crappy," I don't really know.
To frighten people & for exaggeration & drama, they reported the meat trucks; it didn't come from my imagination.

YOU should apologize for being so gullible.
 
win231 said:
Regular TV programming was interrupted - The Mayor of San Francisco announced that the new Covid mutation has just been verified in a fully-vaccinated patient. Then a doctor described how the test was performed.
After the doctor's talk, the Mayor came back to the podium & said, "Everyone needs to get vaccinated." Then she said she would take questions.
A guy tried to ask her a question (we couldn't understand what he was saying). Instead of answering, she just looked at him, then they went back to regular programming. Maybe he asked the Mayor, "If the vaccine doesn't work, why are you telling us to get it?"
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The heckler in the news conference was talking about an unrelated lawsuit against the city for an unlawful chokehold.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/ot...director-remark-on-omicron-variant/vi-AARm3ks

Judging from the number of responses, your speculation of the event did what it was intended to do.
 

win231 said:
I'm also a living miracle. I haven't stayed home since the beginning, no vaccine & during a recent (unrelated) ER visit, was given 2 negative Covid tests.
The hospital was almost deserted, doctors standing around chatting, 2 people in the waiting room, no patients in hallways.
And I didn't see a single refrigerated meat truck full of Covid corpses in the hospital parking lot (as reported).
A miracle, I tell ya! 😂
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Same here. Would'd have thunk it.... 2 miracles on the same forum. :ROFLMAO: Since the very beginning... No jab, no booster, no mask, no social distancing, lot's of group meetings with like minded people. Traveled from Ar. to Wyoming and back. Hugged fellow vets at Mt Rushmore. 😮 Still haven't had a sniffle, sneeze, fever, etc.
Also, Waiting time here in Florida at the local hospital is listed on a light up bill board out front. Mostly 2 minutes waiting time and 4 minutes the absolute longest I've seen so far.
Told a slight fib. When my wife was in the hospital, I had to put on a mask at the door in order to enter. Wore it the whole 15 foot to the elevator, then, shed the mask and surprise, surprise, upstairs, even the staff was unmasked.
Likewise, no refrigerated trucks or bodies piling up in the hallway.
 
Smiley Holly said:
Well I have had a friend that has recently passed away from Covid and I just want to thank you for your cold post and for being such a real comedian. Thanks
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Sorry for your loss, however, was it strictly Covid or was there underlying causes? I only ask because my neighbors nephew drowned in a quarry hole and the death certificate listed covid as the cause.
 
win231 said:
The hospital I went to is one of the largest & most highly-rated, Providence St. Joseph. As for "Crappy," I don't really know.
To frighten people & for exaggeration & drama, they reported the meat trucks; it didn't come from my imagination.

YOU should apologize for being so gullible.
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Well, I saw the refrigerated trucks on live tv, I did not say you imagined them. I said you need to apologize to SF members as your remarks were insensitive to the members who have had people die. I may be gullible, I probably am very gullible, but my being gullible does not hurt anyone but me. You remarks hurt some people.

So, you still need to apologize. Just do it. Like Covid, it won’t kill you; but it might make you a little nauseous since you are so out of practice.
 
squatting dog said:
Sorry for your loss, however, was it strictly Covid or was there underlying causes? I only ask because my neighbors nephew drowned in a quarry hole and the death certificate listed covid as the cause.
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It was Covid. She was in the hospital for almost 3 weeks on a respirator before passing away and was tested for Covid and she was positive. So Yes it was.

If your neighbors nephew drowned and Covid was listed as the reason for death then I would have forced Coroner to change it if I was that relatives next of kin.
 
fmdog44 said:
Some here still do not understand the vaccine does not prevent one from getting it. It prevents you from dying or having to be hospitalized.
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This is just one of the states that has had breakthrough cases.​

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Mass. reports 6,610 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases, raising total to 1.6 percent of fully vaccinated people​


The Department of Public Health also reported 34 more COVID-19 deaths among fully vaccinated people, bringing the total to 586 deaths among those fully vaccinated.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11...ing-total-16-percent-fully-vaccinated-people/
 
Tom 86 said:
Not just this hospital. Every regular hospital here in Indiana is seeing this. Our news report at 6 pm last night said over 78% of Indiana is vaccinated but Drs can't figure out why so many that have the vaccine are ending up in the hospital.
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Making things up again Tom? Show the link to your source for your percentage.

Nov. 30, 2021, at 4:49 p.m
The medical organizations warned that the vast majority of current hospitalized COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated and that hospitals are stressed by caring for more critically ill patients who face longer stays.

The Indiana Hospital Association, Indiana State Medical Association and Indiana State Nurses Association said more vaccinations are needed to relieve pressure on the state’s health care system.

Indiana has the nation's 11th lowest rate for fully vaccinated population at 50.6%, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state continues to average about 20 COVID-19 deaths a day, with the Indiana Health Department adding 119 recent deaths on Tuesday that increased Indiana’s pandemic toll to 17,557.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...l-groups-plead-for-more-to-get-covid-19-shots
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Becky1951 said:

This is just one of the states that has had breakthrough cases.​

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Mass. reports 6,610 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases, raising total to 1.6 percent of fully vaccinated people​


The Department of Public Health also reported 34 more COVID-19 deaths among fully vaccinated people, bringing the total to 586 deaths among those fully vaccinated.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11...ing-total-16-percent-fully-vaccinated-people/
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Could I get a comparison to what that looks like next to unvaccinated people, please?
 
Smiley Holly said:
Well I have had a friend that has recently passed away from Covid and I just want to thank you for your cold post and for being such a real comedian. Thanks
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I'm sorry for your loss, condolences to the family. I also had a death in my family from COVID-19, it is a deadly virus in the US an around the world.
 
Smiley Holly said:
It was Covid. She was in the hospital for almost 3 weeks on a respirator before passing away and was tested for Covid and she was positive. So Yes it was.
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Of course it was. If someone has diabetes, a heart condition, cancer. etc. and becomes infected with the covid virus, it is the virus that killed them. If they had not been infected, chances are very good they'd still be alive and breathing today. Pay no mind to the covid deniers and the spreaders of vaccine disinformation. Most people can tell truth from conspiracy.

There's a disclaimer at the beginning of this forum, that all members and readers should be reminded of. You don't need this, but some readers here might.
https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/disclaimer-and-reminder.62672/
 
SeaBreeze said:
Of course it was. If someone has diabetes, a heart condition, cancer. etc. and becomes infected with the covid virus, it is the virus that killed them. If they had not been infected, chances are very good they'd still be alive and breathing today. Pay no mind to the covid deniers and the spreaders of vaccine disinformation. Most people can tell truth from conspiracy.

There's a disclaimer at the beginning of this forum, that all members and readers should be reminded of. You don't need this, but some readers here might.
https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/disclaimer-and-reminder.62672/
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Thank You, unfortunately it is time for me to put this thread to rest and put it on unwatch.
 
Smiley Holly said:
I can only state what I hear. I am not a Doctor or Nurse. The reports I have heard all along have stated that Covid Cases in the ER's of vaccinated people have been mild cases compared to those of unvaccinated people who have had to be hospitalized and treated. I am not saying this is 100% all cases because it is not, but the majority from what is reported and documented this is the case.
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Exactly. You can only state what you hear. And you're hearing it from those who want to sell the vaccine to everyone, so (like any sales pitch), they're going to exaggerate the benefits & downplay the risks.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I saw the refrigerated trucks on live tv, I did not say you imagined them. I said you need to apologize to SF members as your remarks were insensitive to the members who have had people die. I may be gullible, I probably am very gullible, but my being gullible does not hurt anyone but me. You remarks hurt some people.

So, you still need to apologize. Just do it. Like Covid, it won’t kill you; but it might make you a little nauseous since you are so out of practice.
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I believe the refrigerated trucks that the media blasted all over were the one's that they are forced to use in NYC. Everyday, old homeless people die in the city and the morgues are overrun with bodies. However, the media saw a perfect opportunity to stir the public (and thus help their bottom line)
Smiley Holly said:
It was Covid. She was in the hospital for almost 3 weeks on a respirator before passing away and was tested for Covid and she was positive. So Yes it was.

If your neighbors nephew drowned and Covid was listed as the reason for death then I would have forced Coroner to change it if I was that relatives next of kin.
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When they brought him to the hospital, he was brain dead, but, they put him on a ventilator until all the proper papers were filled out as he was an organ donor. They were told that by virtue of the use of the ventilator, his death was considered covid related. We all know now that many extra dollars were given to hospitals for covid related deaths, so take it any way you want. The fact is, he died drowning... and not from covid.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Interesting, cause our hospital ERs seem to be packed with NON-COVID patients all the time for years. You know, before Covid was born. Packed with injuries, car accident patients, stroke, heart attacks, etc, and tons of snotty children ill with all manner of things.

I can only conclude the ER you go to is, well, crappy; and people avoid it. And you avoid people so it’s a great ER for you.

As for refrigerated trucks, I do not know why you keep harping on this or why you think people dying of Covid or whatever you want to claim they died of us funny. It’s not. We all saw the trucks, on live tv, in NYC when this really hit us hard. We saw the wrapped corpses. The crying families.

You are being so disrespectful and insensitive to members of the forum who have lost loved ones to a Covid diagnosis-whether or not you believe the diagnosis was correct or not. You should apologize @win231
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You don't believe any of that could have been staged to gain your compliance? During what was presented to us as the worse of this back in 2020, I, too, saw nothing strange or busy or different at the hospital. Just sayin.
 
Devi said:
Of course they do; they can hardly say the deaths are due to the vaccines if they're pushing people to get them.

I only read the above posts; I did not look into any autopsies. I imagine more information may be forthcoming. Maybe.
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No autopsies were done on deceased covid patients, which is stunning. But I saw a report late last summer that said some hospitals were going to start doing them. Haven't seen anything about it since.
 
Murrmurr said:
No autopsies were done on deceased covid patients, which is stunning. But I saw a report late last summer that said some hospitals were going to start doing them. Haven't seen anything about it since.
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If a cause of death is KNOWN, autopsies are not done.
An autopsy is performed in cases of sudden death, where a doctor is not able to write a death certificate, or when death is believed to result from an unnatural cause.
 

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