Iraqi troops cut and run from Ramadi leaving their U.S weaponry to ISIS!

No... It's not Vietnam... That's what I am saying. There was no internet or social media in the 60's and early 70's People could not connect and information could not be spread as it can now. ISIS is THERE... and make no mistake about it... ISIS is here too. They do not have to come here.. So having Americans die in Iraq fighting ISIS is silly IMO. Warfare is different now.. It is fought through intelligence and special OPS.. The way to protect ourselves is to always know what they are doing and saying with regard to attacks on the USA.
 

This is not a civil war as in Vietnam, but, rather a war for world domination and pussyfooting around it may not be enough...
 
Ralphy1 said:
This is not a civil war as in Vietnam, but, rather a war for world domination and pussyfooting around it may not be enough...
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Extremists are in every country in the Middle East.. Your opinion is that the USA should become embroiled in an endless war in 5 or 6 Middle Eastern countries? I hardly think that ISIS would be able to achieve world domination... do you?
 

Do not underestimate a determined opponent who senses our reluctance to die in the numbers to insure victory. Hitler thought that we wouldn't and it was big mistake on his part. As to location, you pick them one at a time and then wipe them out. The island hopping strategy used in the Pacific in WW2 was very bloody but very successful...
 
Ralphy1 said:
Do not underestimate a determined opponent who senses our reluctance to die in the numbers to insure victory. Hitler thought that we wouldn't and it was big mistake on his part. As to location, you pick them one at a time and then wipe them out. The island hopping strategy used in the Pacific in WW2 was very bloody but very successful...
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ahh..... Hitler.. I was wondering when he would come up.. Hitler did not stay within German boarders.. he attacked other European countries.. Do you not think if ISIS marched on Italy, Germany, France, or England, or marched across our border from Canada, we wouldn't notice and do something?
 
One has to mention Hitler at times as he was the touchstone in modern times for a desire for world domination. The ME today, and if they aren't stopped, the world tomorrow. And don't forget they don't mind dying in a final world conflagration, so if they ever get their hands on nukes it could be too late...
 
FDR had to manipulate foreign policy to help England when they were on their knees so that a squeamish American public thought that we wouldn't be going to war again. This approach may be necessary again as the situation unfolds...
 
I don't believe that the analogy of Hitler and the situation in Europe is like the ISIS problem in the ME. For one thing, they may TALK world domination, but in reality they as Sunnis really just want control of the ME.. Remember.. all those borders or Iraq, Iran, Syria, mean NOTHING to them.. Those were artificial borders set up by the Untied Kingdom in 1919. What they care about is the ongoing fourteen hundred year fight with the Shiites. They see the ME as Shia vs Sunni. Period. ISIS is Sunni. They came to be a force AFTER the newly formed Iraq government excluded all Sunni and was primarily Shiite.. Iran is Shiite. They are moving in NOT to take over Iraq, but to maintain Shiite dominance. This is purely religious to them. ISIS just happens to be a very fundamental form of Islam.. and "Killing the Infidel" is just standard operating procedure to them.
 
Don't be too sure of what their goals are, as once again, to mention Hitler, he just wanted to insure the well being of Germans in other countries, his only goal...
 
Nonsense, Ralphy. Among other things Hitler wanted revenge for the humiliation of Germany's defeat in WW I.
If he wanted the wellbeing of his people he would have sued for peace when defeat was inevitable.
Instead he continued with hopeless military strategies that prolonged the suffering of the Volk.
 
Sorry that you don't want to take a longer historical perspective. What may be nonsense to some may not be for others...
 
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