Is space exploration by humans over?

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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Although NASA is planning a Mars mission and maybe that will happen in the distant future it seems that there are just too many human limitations to make it further than that. In short, our technological capabilities will far outstrip our human ones. Nevertheless, there is no shortage of people willing to go if it becomes feasible, would you be one of them if you were still around?
 

But how would you meet your needs out there, such as women, booze, good food, and a decent shower? I have always been too much of a coward and a hedonist to ever sign up...
 

low earth orbits are not space flight, free fall is not 0 g's, the only thing taxpayers got out of the Space Program was spy satellites, Velcro and Tang (instant orange juice). It is questionable if a human could get thru the Van Allen belts.
 
rt3 said:
low earth orbits are not space flight, free fall is not 0 g's, the only thing taxpayers got out of the Space Program was spy satellites, Velcro and Tang (instant orange juice). It is questionable if a human could get thru the Van Allen belts.
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You, my friend, have been grossly mis-guided.
 
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Debby, If you find out anything about all that, you have my attention. Please share if you find out. Those have been of great wonderment to me. :wave:
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Hi Ina,

I'm reading a trilogy of books by a physicist named Thomas Campbell right now, and that's what it's all about. Based on actual science and some other extremely interesting personal experiences, it is his assertion that a great Consciousness is the source of everything and that we are here as the 'tools' of that consciousness, that it is uses us to go through an evolutionary process. He also suggests that there are innumerable dimensions, each with different rule sets, purposes and 'beings', each one being part of the same evolutionary process. It's his contention that our consciousness (the energy/mind) that activates and guides us is part of that same great consciousness. In book two, he refers to people as 'individuated units of Consciousness.

A friend once commented on a 'weird' experience he had which set me off on a journey of reading and researching about what happened to him which led to reading about physics and NDE's and so on. Fascinating stuff and the physics that Tom Campbell is holding up as proof makes it seem all the more credible. But you definitely have to look at it all with a very open mind because the conclusions are so much on the opposite end of the spectrum of what we've all come to accept. The fact that he has repeatable science to back up what he says really makes it plausible to me you know.

The books are called My Big TOE (which means My Big Theory Of Everything), Book 1,2 and 3. He also has videos on Youtube if you were curious about his thoughts.
 
Debby, When I was young, and being challenged about my beliefs, (I was about 12), I was asked what I thought God was. All I could think of was that God was like a large piece of paper all cut up like confetti, and each of us were the little bitty pieces all scattered around, and in different shapes and colors. :wave:
 
Thomas Campbell's 'picture' is that Consciousness is like a big two dimensional sheet that is All and each of us is like when a child pokes their hand up against the bottom of the sheet and then many more do and now we are 'clothed' in that sheet/the great consciousness, we are connected and separate and yet still one. We are 'individuated units of That Consciousness.

I've been thinking it's like those old lava lamps we used to have in our dim and distant younger days. There's the big blob just bobbing and floating around and then all of a sudden first one little bit and then another or two or three squeeze off and drift down (to experience life?) and while we are the little 'blob' people, we live our lives, experience stuff and then when we die, we gently drift back up to the big blob and just ooze right back in where our experiences are assimilated and continue the evolution.

Three different pictures of the same idea, yours, Thomas's and mine. Similar, yet different and ultimately meaning the same. Pretty neat huh?
 
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deep psychology is a topic that has been around for quite awhile, some of the better literature on the subject is Carl Jung, who invented the terms, "collective unconscious" esp (extra-sensory perception", "serendipity", and layed the foundation for dream analysis


reflections of your posts can be seen in literature works of "Thousand and One Arabian Nights", the wandering tribes of that area, (Sifus) etc.


Western thought has a variation of this theme called "Quantum Reality"

feel free to google any of the topics.
 
rt3 said:
deep psychology is a topic that has been around for quite awhile, some of the better literature on the subject is Carl Jung, who invented the terms, "collective unconscious" esp (extra-sensory perception", "serendipity", and layed the foundation for dream analysis


reflections of your posts can be seen in literature works of "Thousand and One Arabian Nights", the wandering tribes of that area, (Sifus) etc.


Western thought has a variation of this theme called "Quantum Reality"

feel free to google any of the topics.
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Actually, I was going to ask your opinion on the subject but that would be hi-jacking a thread, so I think that I'll start another one. Feel free to follow and express your opinion. I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.
 
Ralphy1 said:
But how would you meet your needs out there, such as women, booze, good food, and a decent shower? I have always been too much of a coward and a hedonist to ever sign up...
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If you don't have women you don't need to shower. :(
 
rt3 said:
low earth orbits are not space flight, free fall is not 0 g's, the only thing taxpayers got out of the Space Program was spy satellites, Velcro and Tang (instant orange juice). It is questionable if a human could get thru the Van Allen belts.
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Wrong about the Velcro and Tang.
 

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