Is the desire to view the naked body wrong

Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed

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I am attracted to women, all shapes, sizes nationalities and ethnic backgrounds, I appreciate older women, near my age over young women in their 20’s but women 30 and older have my attention. I am happily married but that does mean I cannot appreciate the human body. I do not agree with pornography but I do appreciate an occasional view of nudity in movies and films if tastefully done. I don’t like sexual or gross acts of violence, however, most R rated movies are exceptable. Nor do I like heavy petting or people having sex, I believe making love is personal and should not exploited in movies or films.

Variations in shapes and sizes captures a singular scope of individual beauty in every woman. There is nothing more beautiful to me than a woman.
 
I like the beauty in most all of nature, including women and men and all the rest of the humans. :) Clothes are good, no clothes is good, some clothes are good, so it doesn't matter about the covering. I tried the nudist thing for a while, about 2 weeks, and it wasn't for me. I skip over most make out scenes because they have very little difference no matter how hard they try. :) I do believe I like animals going naked more than I do seeing humans nude. The variety of animal "clothing" is phenomenal.
 
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with it. How should we procreate if there would be no sexual desire for the naked body of the opposite sex? There is a saying in German: "Appetit bekommen kann man woanders, aber gegessen wird zuhause" (You may fancy something elsewhere, but you eat at home).
 
George1959 said:
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with it. How should we procreate if there would be no sexual desire for the naked body of the opposite sex? There is a saying in German: "Appetit bekommen kann man woanders, aber gegessen wird zuhause" (You may fancy something elsewhere, but you eat at home).
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I can't believe I understood that. Haven't read German in decades. Sometimes I surprise myself.
 
Mr. Ed said:
I am attracted to women, all shapes, sizes nationalities and ethnic backgrounds, I appreciate older women, near my age over young women in their 20’s but women 30 and older have my attention. I am happily married but that does mean I cannot appreciate the human body. I do not agree with pornography but I do appreciate an occasional view of nudity in movies and films if tastefully done. I don’t like sexual or gross acts of violence, however, most R rated movies are exceptable. Nor do I like heavy petting or people having sex, I believe making love is personal and should not exploited in movies or films.

Variations in shapes and sizes captures a singular scope of individual beauty in every woman. There is nothing more beautiful to me than a woman.
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I agree! The human female can indeed be the epitome of physical human beauty.
 

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Nathan said:
Recall from all the other threads you've done that Christianity is man-made, Jesus did not say one single thing against nudity Manmade organizations always seek to control the followers.
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Here is what Jesus said:​

Matthew 5:27-32

New King James Version

Adultery in the Heart​

27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
 
Seeing the ladies out and about there is only the imagination left.
I do like to appreciate all that. Don't need it to be nude, its all there. ... :ROFLMAO:
Any shopping trip, all kinds of reveals, belly buttons, frilly tops, short shorts,
tight legs, miniest miny skirts, it's all there in one trip to most any place.
 
This person is admittedly rather ignorant of sexual ethics as I haven't wanted to pollute my mind with its constant media interest. So don't ask this person for opinions. But I just did read 3 articles at the below links and recommend them to others that includes the range of summary view points by different religions, history, and philosophies. This is in part due to my recent interest in ancient civilizations especially reasons that gave rise to cultural taboo differences and slave cultures key factors that have lead to constant human wars:

Sexual ethics - Wikipedia
snippets:

Christian denominations generally hold that sexual morality is defined by natural law, the Bible and tradition...

Not until contemporary times has sex been thought of as something generally good in the history of western philosophy: "Plato denigrated it, arguing that it should lead to something higher or better (Phaedrus, Symposium), Aristotle barely mentioned it, and Christian philosophers condemned it...

Kant views sex as only morally permissible in the context of a heterosexual, lifelong, and monogamous marriage, whereas any sexual act that is performed outside this context is considered morally wrong.

Fornication - Wikipedia
snippets:

The Catholic Church did not pro-actively condemn men for premarital sex until the 12th century. The Third Council of Aachen had previously noted that it was almost unheard of for a man to remain a virgin until his wedding but males remained largely immune to punishment whereas females were heavily penalized for sexual misdemeanours. Despite the Church's disapproval of nonmarital sex, fornication continued to be commonplace in the early medieval period...

A 2004 survey showed vastly different attitudes among Catholics in different nations. For instance, in Germany, 76% of Catholics agreed or strongly agreed that cohabitation before marriage was acceptable. In Spain, that number was 72%, in the Czech Republic it was 66% and in France it was 62%. At the other end of the spectrum, only 32% of Australian Catholics thought it was acceptable, followed by 39% in the Philippines and 43% in the United States.

The same survey sought to show the number of Catholics who believed that premarital sex is "not wrong at all" or "wrong only sometimes". In the Czech Republic, 84% of Catholics believed this, in France it was 83% and in Germany it was 80%. At the other end of the scale, in the Philippines it was 21%, in Ireland it was 51% and in Australia and the United States it was 64%. The survey also claimed that 40% of Catholic women in the United States have cohabited outside marriage...

A 2012 study, the National Survey of Reproductive and Contraceptive Knowledge, found that 80% of young American evangelical Christians aged between 18 and 29 are having premarital sex...

A study published in 2013 found that Muslims are less likely to report having premarital sex than adherents of all major religious groups, with over 60% of Muslims having had sex before marriage.

Prostitution - Wikipedia
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Since the break up of the Soviet Union, thousands of eastern European women end up as prostitutes in China, Western Europe, Israel, and Turkey every year. Some enter the profession willingly; many are tricked, coerced, or kidnapped, and often experience captivity and violence. There are tens of thousands of women from eastern Europe and Asia working as prostitutes in Dubai. Men from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates form a large proportion of the customers...

The Islamic Law formally prohibited prostitution. However, since Islamic Law allowed a man to have sexual intercourse with his slave concubine, prostitution was practiced by a pimp selling his female slave on the slave market to a client, who returned his ownership on the pretext of discontent after having had intercourse with her, which was a legal and accepted method for prostitution in the Islamic world...

Originally, prostitution was widely legal in the United States. Prostitution was made illegal in almost all states between 1910 and 1915 largely due to the influence of the Woman's Christian Temperance Union...

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Not wrong at all. That is probably why the progression of seeing a naked ankle to a thong bikini is no big deal.
 
Some years ago it happened that an 80 year old woman and I as members of the same hiking club were together in a sauna cabin. In Germany we go naked into the cabin and only have a large towel between our body and the sauna bench. You may believe it or not, she was in better physical shape than me, who was 20 years younger. But even if not, nobody should be embarrassed of his or her nude body. Nobody!
 
Nathan said:
Recall from all the other threads you've done that Christianity is man-made, Jesus did not say one single thing against nudity Manmade organizations always seek to control the followers.
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True. 100%

There were specific Christian groups/churches/parishes that did not want certain people to flourish through procreation. Sometimes the goal was basically genocide; wiping out a culture by reducing the population that lived that culture. And sometimes the Christian were successful. Same for Islamic groups. They were extremely successful at this.
 
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