Israel Strikes Iran's Nuclear Facilities

[Trade]

Then you should know better than to think Israel's response was unjustified. Besides I didn't say you were ignorant, just ignorant of a fact. There is a difference. Your calling me ignorant is a personal attack. If you said I was ignorant of the fact you were a medic in Vietnam, then that would be fair.

If you can't see that it is Israel that is the aggressor here and that we have now joined them and created a situation that could very well escalate into World War 3 than yes, I'd call that ignorant as it is painfully obvious to anyone observing the situation objectively.

 

[Trade]

And the inevitable escalation begins:

Iran government moves to block major oil, gas route

Iran's parliament approved a measure June 22 endorsing the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a major oil transportation route, following U.S. airstrikes in Iran.

Around 20% of the world's oil and gas flow through the narrow channel connecting the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman. Its closure would likely mean rising fuel costs for global consumers, including Americans.

While Iranian state media reported that the parliament had agreed to endorse blocking the strait, the decision ultimately belongs to Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

 

[AnnieA]

And the inevitable escalation begins:

Iran government moves to block major oil, gas route

Iran's parliament approved a measure June 22 endorsing the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a major oil transportation route, following U.S. airstrikes in Iran.

Around 20% of the world's oil and gas flow through the narrow channel connecting the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman. Its closure would likely mean rising fuel costs for global consumers, including Americans.

While Iranian state media reported that the parliament had agreed to endorse blocking the strait, the decision ultimately belongs to Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

All we have to do in this case is sit and watch. Iran's economy will quickly shatter and Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates won't be very happy with them. There'll be regime change without the US having to lift a finger.

 

[Buckeye]

Gas prices here in Central FL are down about a dime today.

 

[Muskrat]

So odd that people think it somehow ok to bomb a country. The spin is that even Iranians want a regime change….implied that 100 percent are on board with that. We are so ignorant. Israel is not 100 percent jewish. Some ukranians support russia. And some americans do not support their leader. Very very dangerous to sit from far away and pat ourselves on the back for this chaos. Real people are dying.

 

[Mitch86]

Any nation militarily opposing the USA deserves to be nuked and driven into the ground. Our nation, the USA, is the greatest nation in history. Opponents of our nation are satanic in nature.

During WW 2 we had to decimate Germany and Japan killing a huge percentage of their people. We even used NUKES on Japan. Other nations should be very careful about attacking us. They could face annihilation!

 

[Muskrat]

Part of being great is being generous and kind. I do not know what is “opposing” america is…exactly. We have a huge habit of sticking our noses where they do not belong. Every man in my family served in the military. Some died. Some served in both ww2 and korea. This is not about patriotism…it is about aiding and abetting death and chaos.

 

[Trade]

Any nation militarily opposing the USA deserves to be nuked and driven into the ground. Our nation, the USA, is the greatest nation in history. Opponents of our nation are satanic in nature.

During WW 2 we had to decimate Germany and Japan killing a huge percentage of their people. We even used NUKES on Japan. Other nations should be very careful about attacking us. They could face annihilation!

 

[hollydolly]

Breaking News :

A 'number of countries' are ready to supply Iran with nuclear warheads after its nuclear facilities were attacked by the US, Russian ex-president Dmitriy Medvedev has claimed.

In a post on X/Twitter early on Sunday, Medvedev suggested that the US strikes on three sites in Isfahan, Natanz, and Fordow had backfired and led to the opposite result from what US President Donald Trump had set out to achieve.

In a taunting post, Medvedev claimed: 'Enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.'


Medvedev, who has served as President of Russia from 2008 to 2012, further stated that 'Iran's political regime has survived — and in all likelihood, has come out even stronger'.

He continued to claim that Iranians are 'rallying around the country's spiritual leadership, including those who were previously indifferent or opposed to it'.

His anti-US and pro-Iran social media rant was posted in English and broken down into ten points - gathering more than three million views.

Medvedev, who has served as Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia since 2020, has been regarded by some as a potential potential successor to Putin.

It is not the first time the former Russian President has gone on a social media rant, as over the years he has earned himself a reputation for going on increasingly venomous tirades following the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.



Elsewhere inside Russia, there were calls to come to the aid of its partner and to supply Iran with the same support which Washington had given to Ukraine - including air defence systems, missiles and satellite intelligence.

'It's time for us to help Tehran,' said Russian businessman Konstantin Malofeyev. 'And at the same time, to offer the United States and Iran diplomatic assistance in peace negotiations by appointing a special envoy for this. Two can play at this game.'

Jailed Russian nationalist Igor Girkin said that unless Russia supported Iran, the Islamic Republic would be bombed into the Stone Age by the United States and Israel and then plunged into chaos.

'If Iran does not receive the necessary support from its allies, Russia and China, and very serious and significant support, then, most likely, within a month, its enemies will achieve this,' Girkin said on Telegram.

Following the US strikes, Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Sunday that Russia strongly condemns the assault on its ally Iran.

 

[dusty]

you know this one seems different somehow, it's giving me an uneasy feeling.....

I have the same weird feeling as Holly...just can't put my finger on it.

 

[Olivia]

So odd that people think it somehow ok to bomb a country. The spin is that even Iranians want a regime change….implied that 100 percent are on board with that. We are so ignorant. Israel is not 100 percent jewish. Some ukranians support russia. And some americans do not support their leader. Very very dangerous to sit from far away and pat ourselves on the back for this chaos. Real people are dying.

If you can't see that it is Israel that is the aggressor here and that we have now joined them and created a situation that could very well escalate into World War 3 than yes, I'd call that ignorant as it is painfully obvious to anyone observing the situation objectively.

May 8, 2024 — The Holocaust was Nazi Germany's deliberate, organized, state-sponsored persecution and genocide of approximately six million European Jews.

 

[dusty]

I just wish Trump hadn't done this...on so many levels, domestic and foreign, it was just wrong and very stupid. Does Trump even understand that he was used by Isreal for this? That there is no so called 'friendship' between the two?

As an American, I totally resent being used by the president. While the rest of the people around the world will suffer the the aftemath of his ego, he will be dancing the Hora.

 

[AnnieA]

So odd that people think it somehow ok to bomb a country. The spin is that even Iranians want a regime change….implied that 100 percent are on board with that. We are so ignorant. Israel is not 100 percent jewish. Some ukranians support russia. And some americans do not support their leader. Very very dangerous to sit from far away and pat ourselves on the back for this chaos. Real people are dying.

I’m perfectly ok with bombing the nuclear facilities of a country led by Islamic militants whose leader stated in 2023 that “Death to America” is policy, not a slogan.

 

[hollydolly]

I delberately haven't mentioned the US President by name or referred to him in this.. because I don't want it to be seen as a Partisan discussion of the rights and wrongs of T himself... and get @Lilac's thread pulled.

I think Matrix has been very good about letting this thread run...thus far, given the rules of the forum

 

[Deya]

If you can't see that it is Israel that is the aggressor here and that we have now joined them and created a situation that could very well escalate into World War 3 than yes, I'd call that ignorant as it is painfully obvious to anyone observing the situation objectively.

Maybe you can tell us how Israel should have responded to the Oct. 7, 2023 brutal attack and barbaric massacre of civilians? 1200 killed in horrible ways and 250 held hostage and subjected to horrors of the worst kind. I can't see how Israel is the aggressor, but rather removing an enemy that has made it clear since their alliance with Hitler, that they want Israel and Jews wiped off the face of the earth.

It is obvious to me that WW3 would happen if Iran finished their nuclear warheads capable of reaching the USA. They planned to remove Israel off the map and hold the USA hostage when they got the nukes ready. Their history using suicide bombers to kill civilians, surprise attacks on civilians, and using their own people as human shields, creates fear, but their coward ways and fear of attacking any countries military, makes their cowardly intentions painfully obvious to me. Their final objective depended on intercontinental nuclear warhead missiles. That objective was just removed or seriously setback.

They want to nihilate the Jews forever. That can only be done with maximum civilian carnage. Perhaps you are fine with that, but it is against every fiber of my being.

 

[dusty]

I just read this:

Donald Trump chillingly alluded to a "regime change" in Iran as he suggested that one would "MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN."

In a Truth Social post on Sunday afternoon, the U.S. president wrote, "It’s not politically correct to use the term, 'Regime Change,' but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"



The post comes after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hinted at a plan to assassinate Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei in several interviews last week following his strikes on Iran.

 

[Knight]

I’m perfectly ok with bombing the nuclear facilities of a country led by Islamic militants whose leader stated in 2023 that “Death to America” is policy, not a slogan.

Unlike Iran attacking hospitals & homes. You mean surgical strikes on the facilities that were built deep underground to enrich uranium to be used for peaceful purposes? The facilities that Iran agreed to be open to inspection, but somehow were not accessible all the time? Did you mean those facilities ?

Interesting reading the myths & facts about an agreement in 2017.

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/files/04_HFAC - IRAN - Myths and Facts.pdf

 

[Tish]

@hollydolly, this does seem different this time around, and it is making me feel very much on edge.