Just Pondering

There is a short story by Isaac Azimov titled Night Fall. It’s about a planet that only sees darkness once every 10,000 years because of multiple suns. So the people on this planet have no knowledge of the night sky. They think their planet and suns are all there is. When the night sky does occur, everyone goes mad and their civilization crumbles. It turns out they are located in a huge globular cluster of stars and the sky is filled with them.

For most of our history, we thought our planet was all there was except for some circling lights in the sky. We made up myths about these lights, but we didn’t really know what they were.

In this last century we have discovered that in fact, the earth is an insignificant speck in a universe so vast we can’t really comprehend it. What has this done to our Psyche? Has it contributed to global instability? Has it shaken our basic beliefs in what we are and why we are here? Does it make you uncomfortable?
 

Grampa Don said:
There is a short story by Isaac Azimov titled Night Fall. It’s about a planet that only sees darkness once every 10,000 years because of multiple suns. So the people on this planet have no knowledge of the night sky. They think their planet and suns are all there is. When the night sky does occur, everyone goes mad and their civilization crumbles. It turns out they are located in a huge globular cluster of stars and the sky is filled with them.

For most of our history, we thought our planet was all there was except for some circling lights in the sky. We made up myths about these lights, but we didn’t really know what they were.

In this last century we have discovered that in fact, the earth is an insignificant speck in a universe so vast we can’t really comprehend it. What has this done to our Psyche? Has it contributed to global instability? Has it shaken our basic beliefs in what we are and why we are here? Does it make you uncomfortable?
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Makes me wonder what things that we believe now will be called myths In the far future. If there is one?
I think that the absence of a God figure in many peoples lives today has caused a lot of the negative behaviors we are experiencing now. Let me clarify that I use the word God to describe a power greater than ourselves. It seems to me that humans need someone/something to answer to.
 
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No it doesn't because I am using the literal meaning of create & infinite

Create
ntransitive verb

1: to make or bring into existence something new
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/create


1: extending indefinitely : ENDLESSinfinite space
2: immeasurably or inconceivably great or extensive : INEXHAUSTIBLEinfinite patience
3: subject to no limitation or external determination
4a: extending beyond, lying beyond, or being greater than any preassigned finite value however largeinfinite number of positive numbers
b: extending to infinityinfinite plane surface
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infinite

To create the heavens & earth God would have to be outside the universe. As far as we know there is no finality to the universe. God could not create something already in existence .

If science can prove our universe has a boundaries or ends and another universe is on the other side then maybe science will be able to provide a definitive answer to the origin of our universe & the origin of life on earth.
Does that make sense ?
 

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Knight said:
Infinite brings up a problem with creation. Creating something means that you are bringing something into existence that wasn't there. Infinite has no limit.

So there is a conflict.
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You say that "infinite brings up a problem with creation". But nothing is a problem for God.
It's easy for you to to acknowledge that Infinity has no limit. But it's hard for you to acknowledge that God has no limit.
You "see" conflict. I "see" no problem because my faith is strong. We all have choices as to how we "see" it.
 
Knight said:
If science can prove our universe has a boundaries or ends and another universe is on the other side then maybe science will be able to provide a definitive answer to the origin of our universe & the origin of life on earth.
Does that make sense ?
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I suspect there are things we will never be able to prove. We can only observe and postulate.

Due to the fixed speed of light, we can never see more than 13.8 billion light years from us. We can't know how much is beyond that point. And, the existence of other universes is strictly a mind game for cosmologists.
 
Since we can neither create nor destroy kinetic energy, I would think that the atomic forces within this energy just keeps on going on and on ad infinitum. As has been stated, it is beyond our ability to comprehend such vastness and energy. Theoretical science will continue as time passes. Bound to happen since we are but human and curious by nature.
 
Knight said:
To create God would have to be outside the universe. As far as we know there is no finality to the universe. God could not create something already in existence .

If science can prove our universe has a boundaries or ends and another universe is on the other side then maybe science will be able to provide a definitive answer to the origin of our universe & the origin of life on earth.
Does that make sense ?
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God wasn't created inside nor outside the Universe. Nor does He have to create something from something already in existence. He "IS" and always has been. Because He's God.

You say, "IF science can prove our Universe has boundaries and the another universe"...that's too big of an IF...therefore no, it can't possibly make sense. I have faith, that's not going to happen because God doesn't want us to have the same amount of knowledge He has. It's not part of His plan.
 
Lara said:
God wasn't created inside nor outside the Universe. Nor does He have to create something from something already in existence. He "IS" and always has been. Because He's God.

You say, "IF science can prove our Universe has boundaries and the another universe"...that's too big of an IF...therefore no, it can't possibly make sense. I have faith, that's not going to happen because God doesn't want us to have the same amount of knowledge He has. It's not part of His plan.
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I edited my post to include "heavens & earth " . I can understand why this could be confusing ------>To create God would have to be outside the universe."

How can this be.
The Holy Bible says, in Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." And in verse 25b, "And God saw that it was good." It was perfect in every way, for God does not make any mistakes.

I included a dictionary definition of create to show that in order to create you can't create something that already exists.

Infinite is what is known now. Hopefully science will eventually be able to explain what isn't known and can't be explained simply based on blind faith.

Meanwhile if faith gives you comfort then don't take my posts as trying to get the English language definitions deter you in any way from the comfort you get from your beliefs.
 
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