Kentucky. Massive UPS Cargo plane carrying 280,000 gallons of oil crashes on take-off

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Terrifying video shows the moment a massive UPS plane exploded as it took off from a Louisville, Kentucky airport on Tuesday, leaving multiple people injured and sending a massive plume of smoke spreading across the city as fires blazed for nearly a mile.

The MD-11 plane exploded around 5.15pm as it departed Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport, heading toward Daniel K Inouye International Airport in Honolulu, the Federal Aviation Authority announced.

Video shared to social media showed the aircraft attempting to takeoff with a ball of fire emanating from its left wing. Just moments later, the plane exploded.
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the crash involved a cargo plane like this

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UPS plane crashes near Kentucky airport, leaving multiple injured
 

hollydolly said:
Multiple buildings destroyed....


Terrifying video shows the moment a massive UPS plane exploded as it took off from a Louisville, Kentucky airport on Tuesday, leaving multiple people injured and sending a massive plume of smoke spreading across the city as fires blazed for nearly a mile.

The MD-11 plane exploded around 5.15pm as it departed Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport, heading toward Daniel K Inouye International Airport in Honolulu, the Federal Aviation Authority announced.

Video shared to social media showed the aircraft attempting to takeoff with a ball of fire emanating from its left wing. Just moments later, the plane exploded.
103597007-15259115-image-m-16_1762298580408.jpg

the crash involved a cargo plane like this

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Click here to see the video and read the story

UPS plane crashes near Kentucky airport, leaving multiple injured
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How terrible. You know the ones on board couldn't have survived. I wonder how many on the ground got caught up in that massive explosion. It's dark in these parts. The workers and investigators have a lot of work to do in the dark. So sad!
 
hollydolly said:
Multiple buildings destroyed....


Terrifying video shows the moment a massive UPS plane exploded as it took off from a Louisville, Kentucky airport on Tuesday, leaving multiple people injured and sending a massive plume of smoke spreading across the city as fires blazed for nearly a mile.

The MD-11 plane exploded around 5.15pm as it departed Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport, heading toward Daniel K Inouye International Airport in Honolulu, the Federal Aviation Authority announced.

Video shared to social media showed the aircraft attempting to takeoff with a ball of fire emanating from its left wing. Just moments later, the plane exploded.
103597007-15259115-image-m-16_1762298580408.jpg

the crash involved a cargo plane like this

103597015-15259115-image-a-14_1762298267660.jpg

103597435-15259115-image-a-24_1762299464881.jpg

Click here to see the video and read the story

UPS plane crashes near Kentucky airport, leaving multiple injured
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Our newish Transportation Secretary sure has had a lot to deal with right from the start! This looks particularly bad. šŸ˜’ Condolences to the families of those lost.
 
Itā€™s rare that planes transport oil. Compared to transporting oil by other means, moving oil via planes is expensive. Itā€™s also dangerous, as we now can witness. Shipping petroleum products has never been a main item for planes to be shipping. In emergency or military needs, planes are the fastest way to get oil to its destination, but not the safest.

I have flown on the MD-11 along with other MD series planes. They were originally produced by McDonnell Douglas before they merged with Boeing. I was never a fan of the MD planes because they are very narrow and that third engine mounted on the tail bothered me.

In this instance, donā€™t be shocked if an engine failure didnā€™t cause the explosion. On takeoff, the engines have to create a lot of thrust to get the plane airborne, which is when most engines are put under their most stress.
 
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That was an ugly one. It's hard to find something good in this, but a least it was a transport plane without hundreds of passengers on board, although I'm sure there were lots of people on the ground where it crashed and exploded.

Edit: Only 9 dead. I'm surprised.
oldman said:
Itā€™s rare that planes transport oil. Compared to transporting oil by other means, moving oil via planes is expensive. Itā€™s also dangerous, as we now can witness. Shipping petroleum products has never been a main item for planes to be shipping. In emergency or military needs, planes are the fastest way to get oil to its destination, but not the safest.

I have flown on the MD-11 along with other MD series planes. They were originally produced by McDonnell Douglas before they merged with Boeing. I was never a fan of the MD planes because they are very narrow and that third engine mounted on the tail bothered me.

In this instance, donā€™t be shocked if an engine failure didnā€™t cause the explosion. On takeoff, the engines have to create a lot of thrust to get the plane airborne, which is when most engines are put under their most stress.
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Yes, I wondered about that. The video shows the plane already leaving the ground with the engine on fire. Talk about a pilot having his hands full.
 
JustDave said:
That was an ugly one. It's hard to find something good in this, but a least it was a transport plane without hundreds of passengers on board, although I'm sure there were lots of people on the ground where it crashed and exploded.

Edit: Only 9 dead. I'm surprised.

Yes, I wondered about that. The video shows the plane already leaving the ground with the engine on fire. Talk about a pilot having his hands full.
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I have no idea of the fear that you (the pilot) must be feeling when your plane is leaving the runway and you already see a fire and more than likely, the alarm is sounding. It kind of reflects the same thing that happened when the Concorde departed.

I remember departing Denver going to San Francisco in a B-757 and our gear wouldnā€™t retract, which wasnā€™t a need for any great fear because itā€™s a short trip so we would only have to deal with some drag for the two and half hour flight. Once we got past the Rockies, we climbed to a higher altitude, so we would have more time to work on getting the landing gear back up.
 
oldman said:
I have no idea of the fear that you (the pilot) must be feeling when your plane is leaving the runway and you already see a fire and more than likely, the alarm is sounding. It kind of reflects the same thing that happened when the Concorde departed.

I remember departing Denver going to San Francisco in a B-757 and our gear wouldnā€™t retract, which wasnā€™t a need for any great fear because itā€™s a short trip so we would only have to deal with some drag for the two and half hour flight. Once we got past the Rockies, we climbed to a higher altitude, so we would have more time to work on getting the landing gear back up.
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I be tempted to leave the gear down just to be on the safe side, and let the maintenance crew worry about it in San Francisco. Once up you could have the same problem getting them down, and now under time constraints. But I'm not a pilot or a mechanic.
 
AI says: "Large amounts of crude oil are almost never transported by plane in commercial logistics due to it being extremely uneconomical and impractical. The primary methods for transporting large volumes of oil are by sea via large tankers, overland via pipelines, and by rail or truck."

Speculation isn't useful right now, we must wait for details. But clearly it's a tragedy.
 
JustDave said:
I be tempted to leave the gear down just to be on the safe side, and let the maintenance crew worry about it in San Francisco. Once up you could have the same problem getting them down, and now under time constraints. But I'm not a pilot or a mechanic.
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Thatā€™s a good idea and was Plan B. Itā€™s best to get the gear up to save fuel by preventing drag. I should have finished the rest of the story. We worked on it for over a half hour with no results, so we diverted to Salt Lake City. The mechanics replaced the actuator that tells the gears when to go up or down and we were back in the air in less than an hour.
 
oldman said:
Thatā€™s a good idea and was Plan B. Itā€™s best to get the gear up to save fuel by preventing drag. I should have finished the rest of the story. We worked on it for over a half hour with no results, so we diverted to Salt Lake City. The mechanics replaced the actuator that tells the gears when to go up or down and we were back in the air in less than an hour.
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Hey! That was my idea. Although not the part about stopping along the way. And Salt lake doesn't seem like it was much out of the way.
 
oldman said:
In this instance, donā€™t be shocked if an engine failure didnā€™t cause the explosion. On takeoff, the engines have to create a lot of thrust to get the plane airborne, which is when most engines are put under their most stress.
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12 dead now... and the engine "detached" so you called it... falling off would definitely be an engine failure. šŸ„ŗ
 
CallMeKate said:
12 dead now... and the engine "detached" so you called it... falling off would definitely be an engine failure. šŸ„ŗ
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I heard that the engine fell off. Holy Smoke! Thatā€™s going to require another investigation by the NTSB team. They will have to find out if the engine was just overhauled and was being put back on the plane, if someone didnā€™t do their job. I seen this happen one other time when years ago, a planeā€™s engine was taken off the plane to be overhauled and then reinstalled back onto the plane, but what happened was that the first shift didnā€™t finish putting in the mounting bolts when their shift ended and the next shift that came on didnā€™t properly read the log.

Had they read the log properly, they would have learned that the four bolts that hold the plane to the wing in the pylon where left out. There are 8 bolts that typically hold the engine to the wing, but the the four bolts that go onto the pylon were left off. The weight of the engine is too heavy for just four bolts to hold the engine in position. When the plane runs down the runway and hits the the crevices (runway grooves or channels) in the runway that are there for drainage during any precipitation coming down, the plane is a bit bumpy. This may have loosened the other four bolts, (if they were ever even tightened), enough to allow the engine to drop off causing an explosion.

***This is only a guess on my part. We have to wait for the final report from the NTSB or the FAA.
 
JustDave said:
Hey! That was my idea. Although not the part about stopping along the way. And Salt lake doesn't seem like it was much out of the way.
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When I called United, they ā€œsuggestedā€ I return to Denver to have the problem corrected. Denver is a United hub, so we generally have at least 3 or more mechanics on duty there. I was only less than an hour from SLC, so I said we were going to continue on. There were 2 mechanics on duty when we arrived and the problem was corrected and we were back in the air in less than an hour. We ended up being only a half hour behind schedule. The plane was scheduled to go back to Denver and then Chicago, but not by us.
 
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