King Charles III, a life of service
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Meanderer
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"Prince William and Kate Middleton received their new titles as Prince and Princess of Wales on 9th September, with King Charles announcing the news in his first public speech as a monarch."
"The prince title previously belonged to Charles, while the princess title once belonged to Princess Diana."
"The couple made their first visit to the region since receiving their titles last Tuesday, where they met with crew and volunteers at Anglesey and the RNLI Holyhead Lifeboat Station in Holyhead, followed by a meeting with volunteers and members of the public at St. Thomas Church in Swansea."
"For the visit, Middleton layered a sophisticated red coat with gold buttons over a black top, silky black wide-leg pants, and a pair of black pointed-toe heels."
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No his mother Queen Elizabeth was not Scottish, she was born in London..England. Her husband Prince Philip was Born in Corfu Greece.. to a Danish Father and a German Mother
His grandmother Elizabeth Bowes Lyon ( the Queen Mother ) was born next door to where I live practically, in a nearby small hamlet .. here in Hertfordshire.. .. His maternal grandfather George V1 ( the queens' father) was born in Sandringham Norfolk east of England.. just 70 miles from where I live..
His maternal Great Grandfather George V was born in London...
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hollydolly
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Now known as the Fab 4... Bestowed the unofficial title in preference to William and Harry and their wives..to King Cahrles, Queen consort Camilla.. and his heir and his wife.. this is something the prince promised before the Queen died, that he would slim down the Monarchy.. which means it's less for the taxpayer to pay for.. and rightly so..Mon, October 3, 2022
Buckingham Palace has unveiled a new portrait of the royal family. A new image released on 2nd October presents King Charles III, Queen Consort Camila, and the Prince and Princess of Wales as a family unit.
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Lewkat
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Sorry, I was thinking of his grandmother's family. So much is made by some Brits re: that Saxe-Coburg Gotha origins. Who cares these days?
hollydolly
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Yes it's true.. I get fed up hearing people calling them Germans.. Elizabeth Bowes Lyon..the Queen mother, Charles' Grandmother is often mistakenly reported as being Scottish, she was not, she was born here close to where I live, and her mother Charles great Grandmother Cecilia Bowes Lyon who lived in Scotland at Glamis Castle where she raised Elizabeth was Born in London ... aside from Charles Grandmother , Philips Mother princess Alice.. there's no near relatives for generations who are German.. and even if there was .. so what !! That's what I say... in fact we could all go down that route couldn't we ?.. I might as well say I'm a Viking because that's where my ancestors were from..
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Ditto here. Mine were from Norway, emigrated to Ireland. I don't think most of us are what we think we originally descended from
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Kate Middleton and Queen Camilla Are Poised for a Tiara Moment as King Charles Hosts First State Visit
"Kate Middleton and Queen Camilla are set to dazzle in stunning headpieces as King Charles III hosts his first state visit as monarch next month."
"Buckingham Palace announced that the President of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa, and his wife, Dr. Tshepo Motsepe, will be in the U.K. between Nov. 22 and 24."
"Although the itinerary has not been released, it is likely that a glittering state banquet at Buckingham Palace will be a centerpiece of the visit, meaning Princess Kate, Queen Camilla and other royal guests will be resplendent in some of the royal jewels. As the most senior royals aside from King Charles and Camilla, Prince William and Kate — the new Prince and Princess of Wales — will take a central role in helping host the South African leader and his businesswoman wife over the three days."
"Kate Middleton and Queen Camilla are set to dazzle in stunning headpieces as King Charles III hosts his first state visit as monarch next month."
"Buckingham Palace announced that the President of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa, and his wife, Dr. Tshepo Motsepe, will be in the U.K. between Nov. 22 and 24."
"Although the itinerary has not been released, it is likely that a glittering state banquet at Buckingham Palace will be a centerpiece of the visit, meaning Princess Kate, Queen Camilla and other royal guests will be resplendent in some of the royal jewels. As the most senior royals aside from King Charles and Camilla, Prince William and Kate — the new Prince and Princess of Wales — will take a central role in helping host the South African leader and his businesswoman wife over the three days."
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I don't know why the Media Inist on Calling the Princess of Wales Kate Middleton... in the first place her name is Catherine, and secondly no other Princess of Wales has been called by their maiden name after they were married
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This logic seems to make sense. From:
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/kate-middleton-maiden-name.html/
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/kate-middleton-maiden-name.html/
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Continuing to call Kate Middleton by her nickname and her maiden name makes the Duchess of Cambridge feel more relatable. “That ‘Middleton’ surname always acted — and still does act, in a way — like a reminder of the ‘fairy-tale’ element of their romance: Kate dating, and then marrying, an actual prince could happen to you,” Vanity Fair notes.
what absolute Baloney..it is and always will be the way the British media tend to ensure that those not born into the Monarchy never forget their from ''Lowly stock ''
ETA...sorry not calling Jules rubbish... the article is rubbish... this is the one major difference between the USA and the UK.. the USA encourages those who have made something of their lives.. the British try and drag them back down .. and ensure they never forget where they came from. I hate that!!
what absolute Baloney..it is and always will be the way the British media tend to ensure that those not born into the Monarchy never forget their from ''Lowly stock ''
ETA...sorry not calling Jules rubbish... the article is rubbish... this is the one major difference between the USA and the UK.. the USA encourages those who have made something of their lives.. the British try and drag them back down .. and ensure they never forget where they came from. I hate that!!
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Laurie
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Ignoring a name change for political correctness sake they were both born Battenburgs and the late Queen was born a Saxe Coburg.
That is not a million years ago!
hollydolly
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so they had a name that went back centuries.. so what.. she wasn't German, neither was her parents or grandparents.. and even if they had been.. so what ?..and in fact the Queen was not born Saxe -Gotha.. she was born Windsor.. as was her father
The House of Windsor came into being in 1917, when the name was adopted as the British Royal Family's official name by a proclamation of King George V, replacing the historic name of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. It remains the family name of the current Royal Family.
https://www.royal.uk/royal-family-name
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An insight into the life of Princess Alice of Battenberg (the mother of Prince Philip). A fascinating but tragic life. She married Prince Andrew of Greece and was also known as Princess Andrew. The couple had four daughters and one son (Philip). Three of the daughters married prominent Nazis.
When Cecile died in a plane crash, Philip was seen marching with the Nazis at her funeral in Germany.
Alice was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 1930 and was admitted into sanitariums for the mentally ill both in Berlin and Switzerlad. She received some horrific treatment at the instigation of Sigmund Freud.
Princess Alice founded an order of nuns in Greece and she dressed like one but never took the vows. At Queen Elizabeth’s coronation, she wore her nun’s habit.
When she died she was initially laid to rest on the grounds of Windsor Castle in 1969 but her dying wish was to be buried in the Jerusalem crypt on the Mount of Olives next to her aunt, Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna, who was killed in the Russian Revolution. This did happen many years later when her body was removed from Windsor.
There’s lots more to this poor woman’s story, in this interesting video:
When Cecile died in a plane crash, Philip was seen marching with the Nazis at her funeral in Germany.
Alice was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 1930 and was admitted into sanitariums for the mentally ill both in Berlin and Switzerlad. She received some horrific treatment at the instigation of Sigmund Freud.
Princess Alice founded an order of nuns in Greece and she dressed like one but never took the vows. At Queen Elizabeth’s coronation, she wore her nun’s habit.
When she died she was initially laid to rest on the grounds of Windsor Castle in 1969 but her dying wish was to be buried in the Jerusalem crypt on the Mount of Olives next to her aunt, Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna, who was killed in the Russian Revolution. This did happen many years later when her body was removed from Windsor.
There’s lots more to this poor woman’s story, in this interesting video:
Jamala
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British Queen Victoria, who belonged to the House of Hanover, had married the German Prince Albert from the noble family of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in the 19th century. The name was changed to Windsor because of anti German sentiment during the first world war.
One can change a name, but cannot change their ancestry or the blood that runs through their veins. They cannot change their genes. The Windsors are of German ancestry. Prince Charles has German ancestry through both his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, and his father, Prince Philip.
One can change a name, but cannot change their ancestry or the blood that runs through their veins. They cannot change their genes. The Windsors are of German ancestry. Prince Charles has German ancestry through both his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, and his father, Prince Philip.
Jamala
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No one is really sure exactly where Queen Elizabeth, the late Queen’s Mother was born. General thought it was in Hitchin in Hertfordshire, but exact proof does not really exist. Queen Elizabeth was born at 17 Bruton street, Mayfair, London, whilst Princess Margaret was born at Glamis Castle in Scotland.
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-mystery-of-the-queen-mothers-birthplace-106860/
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-mystery-of-the-queen-mothers-birthplace-106860/
Laurie
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Much as she loved the country, the late Queen was not Scottish.
She was born in London of a Saxe Coburg father and a Scottish mother. People of that generation took the nationality of the father, just as ladies of that generation adopted their husband's name upon marriage..
Similarly it is the convention that people take their ethnicity from their father, not from the monarch.
William is a Battenburg and so are, and will be, all his male progeny.
However the whole family could be directly descended from Harold but that does not give them the right to name who should be Prince of Wales.
That is decided as is their own succession and all titles by Primogeniture.
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"A kilted King Charles III and his wife, Queen Consort Camilla, depart Scotland's Dunfermline Abbey on Oct. 3, 2022, where they celebrated its 950th anniversary following a visit with local officials and Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to mark Dunfermline being granted city status during the late queen's Platinum Jubilee."
“There could be no more fitting way to mark my beloved mother’s extraordinary life of service than by granting this honor to a place made famous by its own long and distinguished history, and by the indispensable role it has played in the life of our country,” Charles said in a speech.
“We gather to celebrate this great occasion but also to commemorate the life of Her late Majesty, whose deep love for Scotland was one of the foundations of her life," he added.
“There could be no more fitting way to mark my beloved mother’s extraordinary life of service than by granting this honor to a place made famous by its own long and distinguished history, and by the indispensable role it has played in the life of our country,” Charles said in a speech.
“We gather to celebrate this great occasion but also to commemorate the life of Her late Majesty, whose deep love for Scotland was one of the foundations of her life," he added.
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"The Scottish first minister also paid tribute to the late Queen Elizabeth II. After observing a two minute's silence at a special sitting of the Scottish Parliament, Ms Sturgeon paid tribute to Queen Elizabeth II, saying she has "been the anchor of our nation". “Most of us simply don’t remember life without the Queen," s he told MSPs."
"Ms Sturgeon also said it was her "solemn duty and my honour" to move the motion of condolence on Monday, adding: "For all across our country this is a time of profound sorrow."
“While the nation’s grief is for a Queen, the Royal Family’s is for their beloved mother, grandmother and great grandmother.”
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A smiling King Charles III, is "Just Fine", thank you very much.
Just Fine gives King Charles III first winner at Leicester
Just Fine made history as the first winner for King Charles III since he inherited the late Queen's horses.
The 10-3 shot, who won at Leicester, was the sixth runner to carry the royal purple, red and gold colours since Queen Elizabeth II died on 8 September.
Ryan Moore rode the horse to victory for trainer Sir Michael Stoute in the 10-furlong handicap race at 15:10 BST.
"A winner for the King! It is great to have done that for him - and he was very impressive," said Stoute.
Just Fine won the £15,000 race by four and a half lengths from the 9-4 favourite Sea The Casper.
Sir Michael Stoute Trainee Just Fine
Just Fine gives King Charles III first winner at Leicester
Just Fine made history as the first winner for King Charles III since he inherited the late Queen's horses.
The 10-3 shot, who won at Leicester, was the sixth runner to carry the royal purple, red and gold colours since Queen Elizabeth II died on 8 September.
Ryan Moore rode the horse to victory for trainer Sir Michael Stoute in the 10-furlong handicap race at 15:10 BST.
"A winner for the King! It is great to have done that for him - and he was very impressive," said Stoute.
Just Fine won the £15,000 race by four and a half lengths from the 9-4 favourite Sea The Casper.
Sir Michael Stoute Trainee Just Fine
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Laurie
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I didn't say the late Queen or any of the Royal Family was German, I simply said they were of German origin, as is the case with most of the crowned heads of Europe since they are descended from Queen Victoria.
The fact that the family name was changed to Windsor for political correctness reasons has no bearing on the fact that she was born a Sex Coburg.
You can change the name of a horse to cow but it still won't give milk.
Her grandmother was Princess Mary of Teck, German born and bred and the most British of all British Queens, setting standards still alive today.
There was no hanky panky when she was around, and Windsor knew that whether he ascended the throne or not his mother would never receive Wallis Simpson!
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King Charles III has met the man in charge of policing in Leicester following recent disorder in the city.
"Temporary Chief Constable Rob Nixon travelled to Edinburgh on Monday at the request of the King."
"About 300 members of the British South Asian community met the monarch to recognise the contributions they have made to the country."
"It comes after disorder broke out on 17 September amid tensions involving parts of the Hindu and Muslim communities."
"Mr Nixon said: "It was a real privilege to meet His Majesty The King on his first public engagement since the Queen's death and I thought it was significant that he wanted to understand what had been happening in Leicester."
"He was obviously appreciative of what our role has been in terms of policing, and he was very, very interested in hearing the community voice... and so many key people within them are pulling together to bring back harmony, along with also understanding the role of social media and misinformation and how that can cause increased tension."
Lewkat
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According to the Bible, children get their ethnicity from the mother. According to DNA experts the Mdna, or the mother DNA determines the child's ethnicity. So, even if monarchs claim that fathers are the determining factor of one's ethnicity, they are wrong. Often, monarchs are wrong, so nothing new there.