Life after death.... myth or fact

Sunny said:
Well, leaving the dogs and pigs out of it, I do, pretty much, and I am a nonbeliever. I think it just makes sense to stop preaching whatever gospel you believe in, when you see it is not appreciated, and is not convincing people. Although using the "dogs and pigs" and "casting pearls" analogy is kind of snarky, it does make sense. If your biblical ideas (or any ideas, for that matter!) are being met with hostility and rejection, it makes sense to knock it off.
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Heh, could never be truer

We’re all pretty much set in our ways
Lived too long to be otherwise

Arguments?
nada

It just inspires some of us to get some things off our hoary chests

No harm, no fowl, no pig, no dog intended
 

Grampa Don said:
So, people who aren't Christians are swine. That kind of says something, doesn't it. No hate there. Don
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"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
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The hateful, aka swine, are the ones who "trample you under your feet and turn and tear you into pieces". The swine are not just people who "aren't Christians", as you say, nor people who just don't want to listen, nor people who respectfully have a different point of view.

This is a warning for believers not to waste their time or breath or holy knowledge and wisdom they've gotten from God's Word with anyone whose hearts are not only completely closed to it BUT also want to turn and attack you viciously, tearing you into pieces. Those are the hateful ones. Not the one who loves enough to take the time to share their Good News.

If a believer is attacking a non-believer viciously and tearing someone into pieces then they aren't really walking the walk. Maybe they have head knowledge but their heart needs a tune-up, as a prayer in Psalms says, "create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me".

God via scripture even tells believers to walk away from those who don't want to listen and instead, love them and pray for them. It's everyone's choice.

EDIT: I was on the previous page (12/3/18) when I responded. I didn't see this page of posts. I hate that when that happens :)
 
Linda said:
Well, maybe there is an afterlife without a God? Not arguing with you. I don't know.
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Afterlife without God? Hmm, well, some who have shared the same near-death experience say they went to a "Void" that was all black and nothingness yet they were fully conscious. They said some bypassed it but others either had to escape with positive thoughts or be reincarnated to do life again. Some just came back to life (from their near-death).

My son actually had a near-death experience when he had Miocarditis at age 2. He couldn't articulate it until about age 3 when my sister took my son for a walk and he pointed up to a mountaintop and said "I've been up there before". My sister didn't tell me that until my son was about age 8 and he shared his near-death experience with me.

My son told me he was on a mountaintop looking down with someone next to him. He said he wasn't sure what he looked like because He was at his side but He was very very bright like a bright light and he was good. My son felt it was God. I asked, when you looked down from the mountaintop what did you see? He said "Nothing. It was just black" (*this shocked me at the time and not in a good way but I didn't let on). He said, "in fact, I can go there anytime if I want to. I have been at my school desk and could close my eyes and see it...but I don't want to."

For years and years I was really bothered that he had a dark experience while most others speak of nothing but pure bliss and beauty....until recently. *I've read where many talked of several dimensions some people pass through...one of which is the Void. I finally had an explanation for this black nothingness my son had spoken of. My son never entered it but viewed it with Jesus by His side. Apparently this Void is a place they say to reflect on your life and isn't necessarily bad unless you have no positive thoughts.

After hearing all this, like alleged reincarnation, I'm still a Christian believer. It doesn't change that. In fact the bright light would have been Jesus, the Son of God.
 

One day when out shopping, a well dressed gentleman carrying (I assume) a bible, approached us and asked if we believed in Jesus Christ as our lord and saviour. Without hesitating my wife answered "No". The man seemed totally surprised by this, said "sorry for having troubled us" and walked off. Wise man.
 
When it comes to religion it seems most reference the bible. Since this as a topic has continued I was curious about other religions & decided to seek out information. This web site was an eye opener for me. I think whatever belief/faith system people have that works for them is great, and there are a lot, amazes me.


ReligionComparison Table
A List of All Religions and Belief Systems




81 entries are listed here. It is simply impossible to list all varieties of religion as we as a species have created an almost infinite variety of religious and transcendental ideas. Items in lower case italics are classes of religion and not actual religions. For example, "theism" is any religion that contains god(s), and "polytheism" is a form of theism.
http://www.humanreligions.info/religions.html


Everything from
Aum Shinrikyo
Dangerous and violent religious community responsible for the 1995 Sarin gas attack on Tokyo's subway and other crimes. Eventually they apologized, stopped using the Bible, and formed the more prosaic group called Aleph
Theist
Yes
The Bible and other


to
Yezidism
An ancient religion. Malek Taus looks after the world with 6 other angels. Heavily persecuted by Muslims and accused of Devil Worship
Monotheist
Reincarnation
Yezidi Book of Revelation & Black Book


Yep something for everyone even atheist is in there.
 
The problem with religion (as I see it) is that we've (whomever) turned the messages from the wise who've lived among us (and still do) about how we should live and making our lives worthwhile into idolatry of those very individuals and basically turning then into stone. We end up worshiping stone instead of remembering the flesh and blood. Whatever God/Creator there is (or isn't) I would bet they would prefer we live their Words rather then bowing down to them. That to me is what is wrong with religion because of making it into who is right and who is wrong and fighting each other and thereby turning people off.
 
We don't know if life continues. So far as knowing right from wrong I think we could get along well enough without religion. Just being logical it appears life ends with death.It's the great unknown. We don't have a Marco Polo to ccome back and say, "Hey the world is bigger than I thought. I went over yonder and come back by a different route. The world may be round." Nor a Lewis and Clark who went and saw and returned to say, "Yep, it goes on an on." So we don't know. The birds and the bees, the animals and the trees don't seem to have much hang ups. Out my back window from my office I'm watching a flock of bluejays and a pair of cardinal munch on seed I threw out for them this morning. They seem to go with the flow and take advantage where they can. No, we don't know much of anything, I'm thinking.
 

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