Long post but reflects MY feelings

Sunny said:
This may seem to be a little bit off topic, but it isn't, really. After reading through this thread, I started thinking about the subject of personal rights and freedom. The more I thought, the more I realized that we really don't have absolute freedom, far from it. And that's as it should be.

People who are living like hermits in the middle of a wilderness, all alone, may have a bit more "freedom" than people living among other people, but even there it isn't absolute. What if they demand the freedom to burn down the forest?

And, if you're living as part of a social milieu with other human beings, you can't,,,,

Walk naked down a city street.

Walk, even fully clothed, down the middle of a busy interstate, because you just felt like taking a walk.

Raise lions in your suburban back yard.

Play loud music through a loudspeaker on your front porch in your suburban neighborhood, at 2 AM.

Start a bonfire in the living room of your apartment.

Interfere with the democratically elected workings of government, or other people's right to vote.

Commit a felony because you think the law against that felony is "unfair."

I'm sure you can think of many other examples. So, what makes it a "live free or die" issue to deliberately endanger the health of other people?
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Not even close to a valid comparison.
 
A bit of a battle royal.

One side is dying from Covid-19, the other side is dying a slow and painful death from lack of income.

How about those who don't want to be exposed shelter-in-place and those who want to resume their lives - do so?

Honest question - does the solution have to be all one or the other?

[Captain, shields have been raised, but I doubt they'll hold for long.]
 
Gardenlover said:
A bit of a battle royal.

One side is dying from Covid-19, the other side is dying a slow and painful death from lack of income.

How about those who don't want to be exposed shelter-in-place and those who want to resume their lives - do so?

Honest question - does the solution have to be all one or the other?

[Captain, shields have been raised, but I doubt they'll hold for long.]
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That would probably be the best solution to the virus issue. Governments will have no money to pay for all the bailouts without income taxes and what happens when people owe almost nothing in income taxes because they've been out of work for so long? Those who think they're financially solvent will soon find out how wrong they were if this lockdown continues much longer.

It seems best that those who are vulnerable or afraid should stay in if that's what they want to do, but let the rest of the world get back to life and work etc. Most of us have probably been exposed already to covid-19 and have survived. Antibodies testing would reveal this if we could ever get the testing done. The world cannot remain shut down until a cure or vaccine is discovered and implemented. This condition is not sustainable.
 
chic said:
That would probably be the best solution to the virus issue. Governments will have no money to pay for all the bailouts without income taxes and what happens when people owe almost nothing in income taxes because they've been out of work for so long? Those who think they're financially solvent will soon find out how wrong they were if this lockdown continues much longer.

It seems best that those who are vulnerable or afraid should stay in if that's what they want to do, but let the rest of the world get back to life and work etc. Most of us have probably been exposed already to covid-19 and have survived. Antibodies testing would reveal this if we could ever get the testing done. The world cannot remain shut down until a cure or vaccine is discovered and implemented. This condition is not sustainable.
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Agree here.....
 
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