Many healthcare workers here aren't vaccinated....

Colleen

Colleen

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My husband is having surgery on Monday, 6/21, so we've had his Pre-op done last week and today he has to have his bloodwork done for type & cross match, plus he has to have his Covid testing done.

We've both been fully vaccinated since February (Moderna) and I asked the surgical coordinator if I needed to get a Covid test to go with him in the hospital. She said it wasn't necessary. I asked if I should bring our vaccine certificate with me when he registers for surgery on Monday and she said they're not checking that. I asked her if she was vaccinated and she said no...not many healthcare workers here "believe" in the vaccine because it's too "new".

Unreal. That makes no sense to me. We're asked to be vaccinated and they're even doing a Covid test on him (not even on me) but they're not doing much to protect us as patients. What's wrong with this "logic"???

My husband's own son, who is 51, was here last weekend to help do a couple things around the house I couldn't do (and my husband can't do at this point) told me he wouldn't be able to go to the hospital with me on Monday for his dad's surgery because he'd probably have to have a Covid test and he wouldn't get it because he doesn't believe in it. That speaks volumes to me about how selfish and stupid he is. He even tested positive in November and said it was nothing more than the flu. He didn't stay home and continued to work and was never re-tested.

I guess I'm getting too old to understand what's happening to people's attitudes.
 

Colleen said:
I guess I'm getting too old to understand what's happening to people's attitudes.
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Same here. I would think that medical workers....especially those in hospitals, would be taking this virus and it's vaccines seriously. If they've seen dozens/hundreds of patients suffering from this virus, and many dying, and still think they don't have to protect themselves, and others, I sure wouldn't want to have them treating me.

Sure, these vaccines are "new" and no one knows just how this pandemic will play out...but ANY protection is better than Nothing.

I bet there are a lot of people who have contracted this virus in recent months who wish they had been vaccinated.
 
Medical folks, not doctors, seem to smoke cigarettes more than the average person does these days. Since I've been a patient a lot, I've always been surprised to see it.

The "funny" thing to me with these folks is how they rely on their own preposterous Beliefs over actual Evidence.
 
If there are two places where all workers should be vaccinated, that would be hospitals/clinics and nursing homes. About 5 days ago, a federal judge ruled against a 100+ healthcare workers at a Houston hospital.

"He [Judge] added that the workers were free to accept or reject a vaccine and that they would "simply need to work elsewhere" if they chose the latter.

"If a worker refuses an assignment, changed office, earlier start time, or other directive, he may be properly fired. Every employment includes limits on the worker's behavior in exchange for his remuneration," Hughes wrote. "That is all part of the bargain."

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-just-ruled-against-031929578.html
 
Colleen said:
My husband is having surgery on Monday, 6/21, so we've had his Pre-op done last week and today he has to have his bloodwork done for type & cross match, plus he has to have his Covid testing done.

We've both been fully vaccinated since February (Moderna) and I asked the surgical coordinator if I needed to get a Covid test to go with him in the hospital. She said it wasn't necessary. I asked if I should bring our vaccine certificate with me when he registers for surgery on Monday and she said they're not checking that. I asked her if she was vaccinated and she said no...not many healthcare workers here "believe" in the vaccine because it's too "new".

Unreal. That makes no sense to me. We're asked to be vaccinated and they're even doing a Covid test on him (not even on me) but they're not doing much to protect us as patients. What's wrong with this "logic"???

My husband's own son, who is 51, was here last weekend to help do a couple things around the house I couldn't do (and my husband can't do at this point) told me he wouldn't be able to go to the hospital with me on Monday for his dad's surgery because he'd probably have to have a Covid test and he wouldn't get it because he doesn't believe in it. That speaks volumes to me about how selfish and stupid he is. He even tested positive in November and said it was nothing more than the flu. He didn't stay home and continued to work and was never re-tested.

I guess I'm getting too old to understand what's happening to people's attitudes.
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More medical professionals than you think don't want the vaccine. Instead of assuming they're not "Protecting" their patients, you should be asking why. The CDC has already admitted that the vaccine will not prevent transmission. That means exactly what it says.
And the reason you think your husband's son is "Selfish and stupid," is because you've allowed yourself to be programmed by others.
 
Colleen said:
I asked her if she was vaccinated and she said no...not many healthcare workers here "believe" in the vaccine because it's too "new".
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Just because she said that, it doesn’t make it fact. She may just be repeating what others like her think. “Surgical co-ordinator” - here that is a clerical position.
 
Keesha said:
I would think or hope medical health care workers know a lot more about this virus than the average person. Maybe they know something we don’t. It’s most unusual.
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I can guarantee you, Keesha, that they don't know any more about the virus than those of us who have been keeping up with the medical journals, etc. I should think they'd know better than to get their medical information for places like Facebook. As for what's going on in their heads, of that I haven't a clue.
 
Nosy Bee-54 said:
If there are two places where all workers should be vaccinated, that would be hospitals/clinics and nursing homes. About 5 days ago, a federal judge ruled against a 100+ healthcare workers at a Houston hospital.

"He [Judge] added that the workers were free to accept or reject a vaccine and that they would "simply need to work elsewhere" if they chose the latter.

"If a worker refuses an assignment, changed office, earlier start time, or other directive, he may be properly fired. Every employment includes limits on the worker's behavior in exchange for his remuneration," Hughes wrote. "That is all part of the bargain."

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-just-ruled-against-031929578.html
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As I see it, the states shouldn't be able to have it both ways -- they're either Right to Work states or they aren't. Texas, I'm sure, is a Right to Work state. Unless contractually stated otherwise, an employer can fire a person just because... or not even because -- and not give a reason as long as it isn't for something covered under the anti-discrimination laws. I mention this because I don't doubt that Texas is trying to figure some way to deal with this. Florida already has -- no vaccines can be required anywhere. There's a huge legal battle brewing because the cruise lines are very unhappy.
 
win231 said:
More medical professionals than you think don't want the vaccine. Instead of assuming they're not "Protecting" their patients, you should be asking why. The CDC has already admitted that the vaccine will not prevent transmission. That means exactly what it says.
And the reason you think your husband's son is "Selfish and stupid," is because you've allowed yourself to be programmed by others.
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The CDC has said that vaccinated people have almost no chance of getting the virus; therefore, they can't transmit it. Given this, Win, can you please explain your statement? I really don't understand it. Thank you! :)
 
Keesha said:
I would think or hope medical health care workers know a lot more about this virus than the average person. Maybe they know something we don’t. It’s most unusual.
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It's NOT unusual. I was in nursing/medical field for many years a long time ago and they take care of themselves less than they do patients. Many smoke (as I idiotically did back in the day) and look at the nurses that were just fired in a hospital (I forget which state it was) because they refused to get vaccinated. The hospital said...if you're not going to believe in science and healthcare that protects you as well as the patients, then we don't want you working here.

I understand that people don't like to be "told what to do" but there's got to be limitations on rebelliousness.

When I worked in a family practice office years ago, the doctor TOLD us we HAD to get vaccinated against hepatitis B. We didn't question it or picket. We had it done because we knew it was for our own protection.
 
Jules said:
Just because she said that, it doesn’t make it fact. She may just be repeating what others like her think. “Surgical co-ordinator” - here that is a clerical position.
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The point is....she prefers to not believe in it even though her 24 year old son has been trying to recover from Covid since November. It doesn't matter what the title of her job is...it's the fact that she's in the medical field and still doesn't want to admit to the science and over 600,000 dead people. My neighbor told me that that isn't true about the dead. She said it was just the flu (she must listen to the same "news" disinformation as my husband's son) and more than that die every year from the flu.
 
win231 said:
More medical professionals than you think don't want the vaccine. Instead of assuming they're not "Protecting" their patients, you should be asking why. The CDC has already admitted that the vaccine will not prevent transmission. That means exactly what it says.
And the reason you think your husband's son is "Selfish and stupid," is because you've allowed yourself to be programmed by others.
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you've allowed yourself to be programmed by others......

And you haven't?
 
Dancing_Queen said:
they don't know any more about the virus than those of us who have been keeping up with the medical journals
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This <-- is what you're reading in those medical journals.
People need to start thinking with their brains and logic, instead of believing all the BS that they're told.
Anyone who thinks injecting poisons in themselves is going to make them healthier, is not thinking intelligently nor logically.
 
John cycling said:
This <-- is what you're reading in those medical journals.
People need to start thinking with their brains and logic, instead of believing all the BS that they're told.
Anyone who thinks injecting poisons in themselves is going to make them healthier, is not thinking intelligently nor logically.
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John D. Rockefeller is a bit of a while ago, John. If you're going to cite something, please cite something that's a bit more current. Life changes and all things in life change with it.
 
Dancing_Queen said:
I can guarantee you, Keesha, that they don't know any more about the virus than those of us who have been keeping up with the medical journals, etc. I should think they'd know better than to get their medical information for places like Facebook. As for what's going on in their heads, of that I haven't a clue.
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Ok then. 👍
Guarantee it for me please. ☺️
 
Pepper said:
See above! Then why do they smoke like chimneys? LOL
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Keesha said:
I was being a bit cynical and sarcastic. 😉Lol
Love you. 🥰
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Colleen said:
It's NOT unusual. I was in nursing/medical field for many years a long time ago and they take care of themselves less than they do patients. Many smoke (as I idiotically did back in the day) and look at the nurses that were just fired in a hospital (I forget which state it was) because they refused to get vaccinated. The hospital said...if you're not going to believe in science and healthcare that protects you as well as the patients, then we don't want you working here.

I understand that people don't like to be "told what to do" but there's got to be limitations on rebelliousness.

When I worked in a family practice office years ago, the doctor TOLD us we HAD to get vaccinated against hepatitis B. We didn't question it or picket. We had it done because we knew it was for our own protection.
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I agree with you that if they are going to work at a place that promotes vaccines in the health and safety of others then it’s most beneficial if they are absolute role models and follow all procedures. I fully understand your frustration. Unfortunately I don’t know their story any more than you do BUT I think if the hospital has clear guidelines for the staff, then they should be followed or their position replaced by someone willing to follow.

Im really sorry you are going through this Colleen and do hope this gets resolved quickly.

P.S. My first comments were said more tongue in cheek which is why I added the above quotes.
 
Colleen said:
My husband is having surgery on Monday, 6/21, so we've had his Pre-op done last week and today he has to have his bloodwork done for type & cross match, plus he has to have his Covid testing done.

We've both been fully vaccinated since February (Moderna) and I asked the surgical coordinator if I needed to get a Covid test to go with him in the hospital. She said it wasn't necessary. I asked if I should bring our vaccine certificate with me when he registers for surgery on Monday and she said they're not checking that. I asked her if she was vaccinated and she said no...not many healthcare workers here "believe" in the vaccine because it's too "new".

Unreal. That makes no sense to me. We're asked to be vaccinated and they're even doing a Covid test on him (not even on me) but they're not doing much to protect us as patients. What's wrong with this "logic"???

My husband's own son, who is 51, was here last weekend to help do a couple things around the house I couldn't do (and my husband can't do at this point) told me he wouldn't be able to go to the hospital with me on Monday for his dad's surgery because he'd probably have to have a Covid test and he wouldn't get it because he doesn't believe in it. That speaks volumes to me about how selfish and stupid he is. He even tested positive in November and said it was nothing more than the flu. He didn't stay home and continued to work and was never re-tested.

I guess I'm getting too old to understand what's happening to people's attitudes.
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I will keep your hubs in my prayers for a safe and successful surgery and full recovery.
 
I too hope the surgery goes well.

I have been fully vaccinated through work since January. Not sure what faith I have in it but I got it. Still wearing my mask also and I noticed here in California that many still are.
 
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