Massive Brawls Break Out in Picadilly Circus on New Year's Eve in London

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Moment hundreds of people break through barriers to see New Year's fireworks as hapless police try to stop them in scenes of carnage in London as mass brawl breaks out in Piccadilly Circus in front of terrified families​

  • Hundreds of people broke through barriers to see city's New Year's fireworks
  • A group of men clashed in central London during New Year's eve celebrations
  • Men in dark clothing were smashing bottles, shouting and kicking each other
  • The Met Police said no arrests were made in connection with the altercation
  • The Met said in a statement: 'Officers worked quickly in challenging circumstances to support stewards in an effort to prevent crowds getting into the ticketed area and to maintain the safety and security of those already inside.

    'At the junction of Storey's Gate and Victoria Street, they had to draw their batons when a small but determined group who had pushed down fence panels in an attempt to get in became aggressive towards stewards and officers.

    'A small number of people were treated for minor injuries.'

    Elsewhere in the city, a group of men clashed in central London in front of terrified families with children during Saturday night's New Year's eve celebrations.

    Video from Piccadilly Circus shows a huge crowd watching on as men in dark clothing began smashing glass bottles and shouting as they pushed their way into the crowd.

    One man could be seen smashing a glass bottle on a bin and appeared to wield the broken end as a weapon, while others threw them into the air, with glass shattering on the floor.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...reak-barriers-New-Years-fireworks-London.html
 

The UK is in a downward spiral. National strikes by Nurses, Paramedics, railway workers, teachers, University profs, airport workers, and all the rest. Add to that industrial unrest the problem of illegal migrants, three PM's in 6 months, a new King, the inability of the Government to make actual progress on the inflation factor, and the waves of street fighting as mentioned in the OP"s post.

The UK pound is at one of it's lowest values in recent memory, compared to the Euro, and the US dollar. UK seniors are having to make a decision about turning off the heat at night, or buying food. The young adults are having to live with 4 other people, in order to be able to afford to eat and pay rent. Many of them are homeless, and turning to drugs or drink to get relief.

I jokingly say...The UK needs a nice small war somewhere, to fire up the economy and give the hooligans something constructive to do with their anger and violence. Perhaps the DRC would oblige ? JimB.
 
jimintoronto said:
The UK is in a downward spiral. National strikes by Nurses, Paramedics, railway workers, teachers, University profs, airport workers, and all the rest. Add to that industrial unrest the problem of illegal migrants, three PM's in 6 months, a new King, the inability of the Government to make actual progress on the inflation factor, and the waves of street fighting as mentioned in the OP"s post.

The UK pound is at one of it's lowest values in recent memory, compared to the Euro, and the US dollar. UK seniors are having to make a decision about turning off the heat at night, or buying food. The young adults are having to live with 4 other people, in order to be able to afford to eat and pay rent. Many of them are homeless, and turning to drugs or drink to get relief.

I jokingly say...The UK needs a nice small war somewhere, to fire up the economy and give the hooligans something constructive to do with their anger and violence. Perhaps the DRC would oblige ? JimB.
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You have included much of the crises going on in the UK for the last few years. You did leave out the Brexit factor. England has a huge burden to straighten out some of this mess, and it's going to take years, if ever.
Many countries are in crisis now, in fact, most countries are with food shortages, fuel shortages, floods, natural disasters, etc (beyond their control), but not like the intricate internal problems of the folks in the UK.
 
jimintoronto said:
The UK is in a downward spiral. National strikes by Nurses, Paramedics, railway workers, teachers, University profs, airport workers, and all the rest. Add to that industrial unrest the problem of illegal migrants, three PM's in 6 months, a new King, the inability of the Government to make actual progress on the inflation factor, and the waves of street fighting as mentioned in the OP"s post.

The UK pound is at one of it's lowest values in recent memory, compared to the Euro, and the US dollar. UK seniors are having to make a decision about turning off the heat at night, or buying food. The young adults are having to live with 4 other people, in order to be able to afford to eat and pay rent. Many of them are homeless, and turning to drugs or drink to get relief.

I jokingly say...The UK needs a nice small war somewhere, to fire up the economy and give the hooligans something constructive to do with their anger and violence. Perhaps the DRC would oblige ? JimB.
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The U.S. isn't doing much better. 😥
 
In London 2018, really awful compared to 10..20 years ago.
Some UK friends decamped to France or obtained an EU passport.

Post Brexit, EU VAT and UK post make it incredibly costly and tile wasting paperworrk for any post or freight import or export with UK.

Jon
 
chic said:
The U.S. isn't doing much better. 😥
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Really ? Tell me about the last time ALL of the Paramedics in the entire USA went on strike ? Or ALL of the teachers in the entire USA went on strike ? That has happened in the UK in the past 4 months. Or when ALL Of the passenger trains in the entire USA stopped running for days at a time, so no one could travel through out the entire country ? That has happened in the UK and it continues to happen there. This is not a new thing. Back in 1979, my first Wife and I flew to the UK to see her family who lived in Yorkshire. When we landed at the airport in Manchester ALL of the baggage handlers were on strike, so it took us 5 hours to get our bags, The ITV television network was off the air because all of their union workers were on strike. National strikes in the UK are a time honored tradition where even workers whose contract is not in dispute "down tools and walk out of their jobs ". JimB.
 
jimintoronto said:
Really ? Tell me about the last time ALL of the Paramedics in the entire USA went on strike ? Or ALL of the teachers in the entire USA went on strike ? That has happened in the UK in the past 4 months. Or when ALL Of the passenger trains in the entire USA stopped running for days at a time, so no one could travel through out the entire country ? That has happened in the UK and it continues to happen there. This is not a new thing. Back in 1979, my first Wife and I flew to the UK to see her family who lived in Yorkshire. When we landed at the airport in Manchester ALL of the baggage handlers were on strike, so it took us 5 hours to get our bags, The ITV television network was off the air because all of their union workers were on strike. National strikes in the UK are a time honored tradition where even workers whose contract is not in dispute "down tools and walk out of their jobs ". JimB.
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.... a few facts that seem forgotten in the mix with these news reports ... about comparing a small country (England) to U.S.
Problems can't be compared between the two.

England's total land mass is equal to only 1/5 of the size of the state of Texas. (Just one example.)
 
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JustBonee said:
Yes, here's a few facts that seem forgotten in the mix with these news reports ... about comparing a small country (England) to U.S.
Problems can't be compared between the two.

London is a city in England, and England's total land mass is equal to only 1/5 of the size of the state of Texas. (Just one example.)
Very tiny area.
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I am well aware of the size of the United Kingdom. MY POINT was that national strikes happen very frequently in the UK, while in the USA they are rare. The size of the country has little to do with the effects of national strikes. If ALL of the fire fighters walk off the job across the country, who is going to replace them ? In that case it was the British Army, most of whom have NO training in dealing with large fires. Now do you get it ?? The population of the UK is over 60 million people. JimB.
 
Right Now said:
Brits are brawling with Brits....frustration, no work, no workers, and because......
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The fastest way to shut down the street fighting is a national 5 day ban on all alcohol sales, pubs included. Yes the yobs will moan and bitch, but the coppers will be able to start making arrests of those known troublemakers on their station pitch. Shut off the drinks at the source. JimB.
 
JustBonee said:
Yes, here's a few facts that seem forgotten in the mix with these news reports ... about comparing a small country (England) to U.S.
Problems can't be compared between the two.

London is a city in England, and England's total land mass is equal to only 1/5 of the size of the state of Texas. (Just one example.)
Very tiny area.
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The original post is to point out that no matter the size of the country, the upsetting nature is rebellion, frustration, and the fact no nation, no matter how small, shouldn't be criticizing other countries. We need to accept each other, as we all have many issues to sort through as individual countries.
There are so many threads immediately put up here condemning the US. Pointing fingers at us should make the other person in their own country take a look at themselves.
 
jimintoronto said:
The fastest way to shut down the street fighting is a national 5 day ban on all alcohol sales, pubs included. Yes the yobs will moan and bitch, but the coppers will be able to start making arrests of those known troublemakers on their station pitch. Shut off the drinks at the source. JimB.
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I would not begin to offer solutions as I admit to knowing next to nothing about England's underlying problems.
 
Right Now said:
I would not begin to offer solutions as I admit to knowing next to nothing about England's underlying problems.
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Perhaps you could go back and read post number 4, by me. All of what I wrote there is true. My Wife's sister lives in a town called Motherwell, which is a suburb just outside of Glasgow. She is a long serving Justice of the Peace, presiding in the lower criminal courts. She and my Wife were born in the Bahamas, with a Bahamian Father and a Canadian Mother, so they both have the right to live in Canada as citizens. The sister in Scotland married a Royal Navy officer many years ago, and moved with him to live in the UK. NOW she is seriously thinking about leaving her position as a J.P. and moving to Canada. She is age 59. Her 3 adult children also have Canadian citizenship from their Mother, and they too are thinking of leaving the UK to come to Canada. Those that can get out are doing so. JImB.
 
A lot of union propaganda being believed and written here
as truth!

Yes there are strikes, all over the place, the unions are trying
to topple the Government, unfortunately for them, they have
chosen the wrong time to do it.

The nurses strike, only a few from selected hospitals walk out
for a few hours in the day, ambulance drivers were still answering
critical cases, others had to get themselves to the A&E.

The immigration officers, only had one day, because the military
and their managers did a better job and people got through at
a quicker pace than normal, strike over.

The train strikers have lost the public support, they shut the system
down at the wrong time, then it was discovered that many of them
are earning £100,000 per annum, all sympathy gone, anyway most
people can work from home now-a-days.

They all demand that the government step in, the government has
given money to each area to run the system and how they spend
the money is up to the organisation, the NHS, each Railway Franchisee,
etc., not the Government to pay them double, they each accepted the
contract at agreed prices.

If this is deemed to be political, which it is not intended to be, but to
be informative, I apologise and it can be deleted.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
A lot of union propaganda being believed and written here
as truth!

Yes there are strikes, all over the place, the unions are trying
to topple the Government, unfortunately for them, they have
chosen the wrong time to do it.

The nurses strike, only a few from selected hospitals walk out
for a few hours in the day, ambulance drivers were still answering
critical cases, others had to get themselves to the A&E.

The immigration officers, only had one day, because the military
and their managers did a better job and people got through at
a quicker pace than normal, strike over.

The train strikers have lost the public support, they shut the system
down at the wrong time, then it was discovered that many of them
are earning £100,000 per annum, all sympathy gone, anyway most
people can work from home now-a-days.

They all demand that the government step in, the government has
given money to each area to run the system and how they spend
the money is up to the organisation, the NHS, each Railway Franchisee,
etc., not the Government to pay them double, they each accepted the
contract at agreed prices.

If this is deemed to be political, which it is not intended to be, but to
be informative, I apologise and it can be deleted.

Mike.
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@Mike I don't see how your post could be deemed any more political than any other here.

I agree with you. I live in the UK and it bears no relation to the impression some people have of it although, I guess the media must be partly responsible. 🤷‍♀️
 
jimintoronto said:
The UK is in a downward spiral. National strikes by Nurses, Paramedics, railway workers, teachers, University profs, airport workers, and all the rest. Add to that industrial unrest the problem of illegal migrants, three PM's in 6 months, a new King, the inability of the Government to make actual progress on the inflation factor, and the waves of street fighting as mentioned in the OP"s post.

The UK pound is at one of it's lowest values in recent memory, compared to the Euro, and the US dollar. UK seniors are having to make a decision about turning off the heat at night, or buying food. The young adults are having to live with 4 other people, in order to be able to afford to eat and pay rent. Many of them are homeless, and turning to drugs or drink to get relief.

I jokingly say...The UK needs a nice small war somewhere, to fire up the economy and give the hooligans something constructive to do with their anger and violence. Perhaps the DRC would oblige ? JimB.
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You are 100% correct about the UK needing a "nice little war" to take away the hooligans. I'm from Canada and my father said the very same thing years ago. He was a soldier in the Czarist Russian Army and knew what discipline or lack of it meant. He passed away in 1962, He said that compulsory military service really got care of discipline.

My late wife told me the story that she knew this really bad hooligan where she grew up in Poland. He was conscripted into the Polish army. One day, a nice, clean shaven young gentleman gave her a seat on a very crowded bus. She couldn't believe her eyes when she recognized the former hooligan from her town.

As far as the UK and it's immigrant problem, I saw the troubles coming years ago. On one trip to Cornwall, our plane landed in London. The joke between my wife and me was "Where are the English?" I really don't understand why the UK thought they could take millions of immigrants in and everything would be just "peachy."

Canada is going to have the same problems regardless of what the bleeding hearts say. Fortunately, I will be long gone and dead when the riots start.

Somebody once said, "You reap what you sow."
 
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Trish said:
@Mike I don't see how your post could be deemed any more political than any other here.

I agree with you. I live in the UK and it bears no relation to the impression some people have of it although, I guess the media must be partly responsible. 🤷‍♀️
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Did you see the rail workers are on strike AGAIN? This time for a WEEK ! The "media " didn't make that up. JimB.
 
Yes they are on strike again jimintoronto, they are taking turns,
one union for 48 hours another for 24 hours, on the day after, then
first one off again for 48 hours, the Government are not interested,
they reckon it is not up to them, all the commuters are the losers,
some were interviewed by the TV News today, they said that they
are looking for other jobs where they don't need to travel, the rail
unions have lost most of the public support, all the others are bits
and pieces, tomorrow it is the driver testers.

Most office workers are still geared up to work from home, so the
rail companies are losing income.

Mike.
 

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