Maybe It's Just Me

fureverywhere

fureverywhere

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As I've posted before, I rarely watch TV but get my junk fix binge reading scandal sheets at the store every week. Something I saw today that struck me as out of the ordinary stupid. Hoda Kotb...I know she has a show with Kathi Lee or whoever. But they gave her a quickie question and answer. She mentioned one of her weaknesses is Entenmann's black and white cookies. She says she eats some and pours detergent on the rest and puts them in the garbage so she's not tempted to eat more.


I mean I know these people aren't science rockets. But is that a stupid quote or what? It makes me think of one time when I was in a therapy group. I mentioned my middle kid being bulimic. That is she used to eat half the kitchen and throw it up afterwards. One woman looked at me and exclaimed " Why in the hell would she do THAT for?". To someone that might have difficulty getting groceries every week bulimia is a total first world problem. Having enough food available that you can play games with it...
 

You mean maybe she should have given that food to the poor instead of pouring detergent on it? I know some people buy a cake or something and then give half of it to a neighbor. I'm lucky as I have a lot of other people around I can share extra food with. I don't think I could bring myself to destroy good food. Maybe Hoda (I think that is a harsh sounding name for a lady) feels it's better for the cookies to be in the garbage than on her behind.
 
I know what you're saying Linda. But to me it just sounds like " I can buy a six dollar box of cookies and throw half of them away so I don't get fat". For people who have gone hungry in their lives, they probably don't get to a point where they throw up or throw out good food so they can stay thin. I think Disney is evil but something positive about Disneyworld in Florida. Hubby used to work for them. The desserts and food customers bought could be purchased by employees for a fraction of the cost. They also donated tons of food to local shelters. I know throwing out boxes of cookies is insignificant but really...
 

fureverywhere said:
I know what you're saying Linda. But to me it just sounds like " I can buy a six dollar box of cookies and throw half of them away so I don't get fat". For people who have gone hungry in their lives, they probably don't get to a point where they throw up or throw out good food so they can stay thin. I think Disney is evil but something positive about Disneyworld in Florida. Hubby used to work for them. The desserts and food customers bought could be purchased by employees for a fraction of the cost. They also donated tons of food to local shelters. I know throwing out boxes of cookies is insignificant but really...
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My nephew, a lifelong student of adult behavior and sociological mores, coined his own phrase back in the '80s: Bulexia. imp
 
Bulimia and anorexia are eating disorders and an illness.

While I think its a good idea not to waste food, on the other extreme there are some people who are loathe to throw out a moldy crust of bread or a rotten vegetable or old eggs..... I would consider this some kind of phobia about wasting food --- if I suspect it might be off or been in the fridge for too long I garbage it without any guilt whatsoever.
 
fureverywhere said:
I know what you're saying Linda. But to me it just sounds like " I can buy a six dollar box of cookies and throw half of them away so I don't get fat". For people who have gone hungry in their lives, they probably don't get to a point where they throw up or throw out good food so they can stay thin. I think Disney is evil but something positive about Disneyworld in Florida. Hubby used to work for them. The desserts and food customers bought could be purchased by employees for a fraction of the cost. They also donated tons of food to local shelters. I know throwing out boxes of cookies is insignificant but really...
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Fur -- whenever I'm tempted to throw away food, I hear my mother's voice (she lived through the great depression) telling me to NEVER NEVER throw away food. She had a million ways to use leftovers and odds and ends and to her wasting food was a major sin.
 
True. In college I had an eating disorder and would throw away a slice of frosted fudge cake in the wastebasket and then fish it out and eat it. Eating disorders make you feel helpless, I wish I'd thought of the detergent thing long ago myself.
 
chic said:
True. In college I had an eating disorder and would throw away a slice of frosted fudge cake in the wastebasket and then fish it out and eat it. Eating disorders make you feel helpless, I wish I'd thought of the detergent thing long ago myself.
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Yup I can understand that...Chic...been there a few years ago myself after I gave up smoking and turned to food instead..

However further to Fur's post about buying a 6 pack of cakes and being able to afford to throw half away ..which I agree is a waste...perhaps in this day when food manufacturers and packagers seem incapable of selling food in packs suitable only for one or 2 people..and few people on their own have the choice to to buy anything less than a six pack or more of cakes when in fact they'd just like to buy ONE in the first place.. We certainly have that problem here. Everything is geared to families...and it's quite hard to buy just enough for one person without having waste..
 
Black and White cookies are a favorite treat to most New Yorkers. They are, let's see, scrumptious, to say the least. However, they are also very heavy and fattening as all get out. I just checked it out on Google and read that there is 440 calories and 18 grams of fat in one Black & White Cookie. I am a constant weight watcher. At 6'4" 210 pounds, I am fairly slim and I plan on staying that way. I am not bulimic or have anorexia. I still remember when Karen Carpenter died from these diseases. I am just very careful what I put in my mouth. Yes, holidays are the worse for weight watchers. My cholesterol is a problem from eating airport food for 34 years, so I do take a statin drug. My LDL is 78. I do not belong to "Weight Watchers."
 
oldman said:
Black and White cookies are a favorite treat to most New Yorkers. They are, let's see, scrumptious, to say the least. However, they are also very heavy and fattening as all get out. I just checked it out on Google and read that there is 440 calories and 18 grams of fat in one Black & White Cookie. I am a constant weight watcher. At 6'4" 210 pounds, I am fairly slim and I plan on staying that way. I am not bulimic or have anorexia. I still remember when Karen Carpenter died from these diseases. I am just very careful what I put in my mouth. Yes, holidays are the worse for weight watchers. My cholesterol is a problem from eating airport food for 34 years, so I do take a statin drug. My LDL is 78. I do not belong to "Weight Watchers."
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You startled me with the 440 calories in one Black & White cookie. I googled Entenmann's and one cookie has 130 calories and 5 grams of fat. Not unlike my favorite Maple Leaf cookies which are 100 calories per.
 
I’m not seeing what this has to do with eating disorders. What Hoda did is no different than someone who is trying to quit smoking, buys a pack of cigarettes, smokes a few, then destroys the rest of the pack. Or someone on a diet who eats a handful of potato chips and discards the rest. It’s been awhile, but I’ve done things like that. However, I wouldn’t bother with the detergent – I’d just put in garbage disposal or crumble them up and take to the dumpster.

Sure, it’s wasteful. But most food pantries don’t accept opened packages of food.
 
fureverywhere, I believe that you have no comprehension of eating disorders.

nitelite, I am a recovered anorexic...I had a few times in my life when I was barely 100 pounds. At 130 I'm a healthy size now. I know EXACTLY how it feels. But the point still stands that if you have ever gone hungry from not being able to afford food you're probably less likely to have future eating disorder. I just think Hoda should have maybe suggested she can exercise some restraint rather than basically saying she's helpless not to devour the box unless she destroys it...jeez
 
I think people do whatever they feel they have to when they are trying to lose weight and are tempted by a box of cookies. I don't find it morally wrong or that she SHOULD have done something else. Cookies are pretty much junk food, not actually that nutritious and if someone throws them away, who really cares? When it comes to losing weight or trying to quit an addiction, whatever it takes is ok with me, even if someone throws a cake or cookies away or even a whole bottle of wine. Does it matter and are they being bad or wrong -- I seriously doubt it.
 
Well, I agree with Cookie. There is no food police. I believe if you buy the food ..what you do with it is up to you. I tend to freeze things. If I have too many baked goods..I portion them to the freezer..one serving each..and into a freezer zip lock, etc. We never eat a whole loaf of bread so that goes in right away. I have a small chest freezer in the garage. I am careful not to overbuy food.

I'm sorry for anyone with eating disorders. I have a family member who is bulemic and she's been through so much.

oh..one other thing..I'm going to find those black and white Entenmann's cookies..lol
 
Something my Dad has always done. Portion goodies into servings and deep freeze the rest. I guess like you say, you buy something you have the choice to waste it. Now a cigarette or two...rather than trash a whole pack I'd grub them from someone else. Smokes are ten dollars a pack here. Fortunate that I just think they smell nasty now.

But yeah bulimia is particularly nightmarish. I wasn't meaning to minimize eating disorders. My middle kid was just incredible. You'd check the kitchen the next morning, two boxes of cereal, all the milk, a whole cake, a whole box of Pop Tarts, sometimes she'd cook at night too. But she stayed at maybe 105 pounds, even after several failed hospitalizations.

They tell me her boyfriend keeps her on the straight and narrow now. I hope for her sake he does.
 
applecruncher said:
What Hoda did is no different than someone who is trying to quit smoking, buys a pack of cigarettes, smokes a few, then destroys the rest of the pack. Or someone on a diet who eats a handful of potato chips and discards the rest. It’s been awhile, but I’ve done things like that. However, I wouldn’t bother with the detergent – I’d just put in garbage disposal or crumble them up and take to the dumpster.

Sure, it’s wasteful. But most food pantries don’t accept opened packages of food.
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I agree AC, when I was quitting smokes around 30 years ago, I did buy a few packs, smoked a few and threw the rest in the trash. I don't remember throwing out food like that, but like you I wouldn't bother with detergent, I do have some willpower to just put it in the garbage and leave it there. I do feel for people with real eating disorders, I knew this guy at work whose wife was like a skeleton, anorexic, and he was very fearful that she would die at a young age, as no therapists or doctors could help her see what was happening.
 

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