Mexican marines murder 3 americans

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Three Americans crossed the border near Brownsville, Texas to visit friends. They were out driving around town, with an amigo, when they were picked up by Mexican Marines. Witnesses say they saw the Marines take the young adults into a vacant lot and beat them and then going through their pockets. The car belonging to the Americans has not been found. The car is, no doubt, in the possession of one of the Mexican Marines.

Several weeks later, the 4 badly decomposed bodies (including the Mexican man) were discovered in a field.
It is not at all unusual for Mexican police and the Mexican military to murder its own citizens, but it is not unheard of for Americans to be murdered, also.

There are huge sections of Mexico that the U.S. Department of State has issued a "Do Not Travel" warning. Such warnings are in effect for Syria, and Afghanistan and other countries as well.

No part of Mexico is totally safe. Even in such tourist spots as Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.
 

The primary reason why this happens is for profit. An American, driving a new vehicle, is a prime target. The more expensive the vehicle, the bigger target he becomes. Even if he is walking about town, wearing expensive looking clothes, and God, forbid, a Rolex he is in danger. If he happens to be even slightly intoxicated, he might as well be wearing a neon, flashing sign, "Rob me"!
 

I totally agree, with Falcon. One heck of a lot of Mexican police are much more dangerous than the average American can even imagine.

A few years ago, a retired American couple was traveling near Rosarito, just south of Tijuana, driving their own car. There was an accident caused by a Mexican driver. The elderly American man was severely injured and required immediate emergency room care. Because his auto insurance papers were not 100% covered, the man was not taken to the hospital. He was taken to jail where he later died of his injuries.
 
Traveler said:
driving their own car. .
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Nada

no can do south of this border
...at least not for very long

thought everbody knew that

it's probably wunna the most dangerous places on this planet


I always felt edgy anywhere in Mexico

business acquaintances of mine ended up in hefty bags along the road approx. ten years ago

Three of my in-laws, Mexicans, were executed a few months ago
22 round to the side of the head

I don't know why
Don't wanna know
It's Mexico
 
I agree with you Gary'O but, unfortunately everyone does not know about how dangerous Mexico is. Let's hope they don't learn the hard way.
 
We went to Cancun....Once...perhaps 20 years ago. It was a beautiful place to visit, back then. Now, however, with the rapid growth of the Mexican/Latino drug gangs, all over Central America, there is No Way I would want to venture South of the U.S. border. It's no wonder that huge numbers of those people are constantly trying to immigrate here.
 
Traveler said:
I agree with you Gary'O but, unfortunately everyone does not know about how dangerous Mexico is. Let's hope they don't learn the hard way.
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Well, let's hope this thread enlightens those not in the know

I been to some unsavory places
Mexico is near the top
 
Don M. said:
We went to Cancun....Once...perhaps 20 years ago. It was a beautiful place to visit, back then. Now, however, with the rapid growth of the Mexican/Latino drug gangs, all over Central America, there is No Way I would want to venture South of the U.S. border. It's no wonder that huge numbers of those people are constantly trying to immigrate here.
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Unfortunately, too many of the illegal aliens ARE the dangerous ones.
 
I lived in San Diego from '42 to '91 when I retired. Used to go down south, camp on the beaches in Baja and on the gulf at San Felipe. I never had a problem but would I do it today? HELL NO!!
 
Falcon said:
Best advice : STAY THE HELL OUT OF MEXICO !!!

Maybe our president is correct, when he talks about building that wall.
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He's trying to keep the Mexicans out, not prevent American tourists from going there. This wasn't Mexicans in the US, it was Americans in Mexico.

We used to think nothing of going to Juarez to buy all of our prescription drugs, and then the cartels began murdering hundreds of women in Juarez, some of them Mexican and some of them American; they weren't particular. It's been a long time since I heard of anyone casually crossing that border for anything like our old prescription drug runs.

Like AZJim, I used to go down to the Baja to camp. Wouldn't dream of it today.
 
Traveler said:
Unfortunately, too many of the illegal aliens ARE the dangerous ones.
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I hafta argue with ya a bit on that.
Most the ones comin’ across are interested in one thing, working.
Working to either send money home, or to save it, and go home.
Of which usually ends up staying.
Staying in a one bedroom apartment, with 6-12 other illegals.
Eating on the run, ‘tween jobs
Like the European immigrants did coming to New York.

Sorry, Traveler. Don’t mean to ruin what yer tryin’ to get across

It’s just that I could write a freaking book on this subject

I’ve been on both sides of that river
Literally, and figuratively
 
The entire Mexican system is a total mess. Corruption from the highest levels to the lowest. Drug cartels control vast areas of the country (and why not ? The big boys are multi-billionaires with their own private, heavily armed, regiments of brutal thugs). Those Americans who have keep themselves informed, are aware that the drug lords even have submarines to smuggle drugs into the U.S.

In the realm of truth being stranger than fiction, the drug cartels have developed high powered "air cannons" which are capable of shooting packages of cocaine and meth-amphetamines 1/4 mile into the U.S. They also use drones, but for some reason they are less popular.

Recent visitors to Mexican border towns will have noticed convoys of 3 or 4 combat vehicles, patrolling the streets, manned by soldiers who are equipped with fully automatic 30-caliber machine guns mounted on swivels. In the back of those combat vehicles are another 4-6 soldiers armed with automatic AR-15's. I personally have not witnessed them in combat, but the fire power they are capable of, must be astounding. Seriously, four 30-cal machine guns AND another 18-24 soldiers armed with automatic AR-15's. Awesome firepower.

Added to the above, U.S. border patrol has discovered dozens of tunnels, some 1/2 a mile long. Those tunnels have very narrow railroads and powered engines to deliver drugs and illegal immigrants into the U.S. I have heard that people pay upward of 3,000 U.S.D./person to be smuggled into America.
 
'The entire Mexican system is a total mess. Corruption from the highest levels to the lowest. Drug cartels control vast areas of the country (and why not ? The big boys are multi-billionaires with their own private, heavily armed, regiments of brutal thugs).'
Nuthin' new there

'In the realm of truth being stranger than fiction, the drug cartels have developed high powered "air cannons" which are capable of shooting packages of cocaine and meth-amphetamines 1/4 mile into the U.S. They also use drones, but for some reason they are less popular.

Recent visitors to Mexican border towns will have noticed convoys of 3 or 4 combat vehicles, patrolling the streets, manned by soldiers who are equipped with fully automatic 30-caliber machine guns mounted on swivels. In the back of those combat vehicles are another 4-6 soldiers armed with automatic AR-15's. I personally have not witnessed them in combat, but the fire power they are capable of, must be astounding. Seriously, four 30-cal machine guns AND another 18-24 soldiers armed with automatic AR-15's. Awesome firepower.'

Well, things have progressed
 
I have no desire to go to Mexico but I wonder if people in other countries are saying the same thing about the United States.

We've had some horrific headline grabbing events in the United States like the Las Vegas Shooting, Orlando Night Club Shooting, Aurora Shooting, Manhattan Terror Attack, Boston Marathon Bombing, etc...

 
Sounds like we're as much part of the problem as the Mexicans. No demand for the drugs here in the US? Little would be delivered. Not much different than booze. Make alcohol illegal again, here in the States and see how quickly another group of cartels start up - -delivering liquid drugs which most of us can't seem to live without.

Anyone game to skip that glass of wine after dinner or the cases of beer at the family gathering? I think not. In today's world, the form of the drug has changed, not the fact that it's a drug. Prohibition didn't work in the 20's and drug enforcement in this century isn't working either.
 
I don't care what country your in. Driving around like one is back in their own is dangerous period. Many people don't like foreigners or strangers in their neighborhood period. And most can spot a tourist relatively quick. That being said traveling in a corrupt country with known issues is risky. Doesn't justify anything but always be aware in a strange place period.
 
WhatInThe said:
I don't care what country your in. Driving around like one is back in their own is dangerous period. Many people don't like foreigners or strangers in their neighborhood period. And most can spot a tourist relatively quick. That being said traveling in a corrupt country with known issues is risky. Doesn't justify anything but always be aware in a strange place period.
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3 of these Marines where Mexican and visiting their father..
This happened in 2014 not so current news..
 
DaveA said:
Sounds like we're as much part of the problem as the Mexicans. No demand for the drugs here in the US? Little would be delivered. Not much different than booze. Make alcohol illegal again, here in the States and see how quickly another group of cartels start up - -delivering liquid drugs which most of us can't seem to live without.

Anyone game to skip that glass of wine after dinner or the cases of beer at the family gathering? I think not. In today's world, the form of the drug has changed, not the fact that it's a drug. Prohibition didn't work in the 20's and drug enforcement in this century isn't working either.
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I must disagree with any comparison between alcohol and hard drugs. There is a HUGE difference between having a glass of wine at dinner or a few beers at a family gathering and hard core drugs. Use of hard drugs, and the sale of those drugs, generates crime on an scale so vast that it threatens our very society. Hard drugs are very expensive and the person who habitually uses them often resorts to armed robberies, home invasions, burglaries, stealing from their own families, and even murder in order to buy more and more drugs in a never ending cycle.

Once, not so long ago, most people in America, never even bothered to lock their doors at night. Even during the worst days of alcohol prohibition, average citizens were safe in their own homes. Not so today. The difference is hard core drugs which have created addicts who will commit any crime in order to continue their habit.
 

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