Might Germany Leave the EU?

dilettante

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People are getting restless about austerity and this Winter things will get dark and cold.

A political party tarred "right wing" by the establishment is growing in popularity and the domestic secret police have been deployed to suppress it. Infiltration, incitement... the playbook seems all too familiar.

Elections "can't be held" because "there is no paper for ballots." :ROFLMAO:


Flash in the pan news cycle noise? A multi-year struggle ahead? Civil war?

How many members leaving would tip the scales of the EU, forcing Brussels to look for honest jobs?
 

Politics aside, the EU has got to stand cause it's likely the Donald will drain it if it doesn't build: "The Donald Towers."
 
I hope the whole E.U. collapses. The intention was to create a multi-racial superstate with a central government ruling all. However, people are now realising that they have lost their individual identity and the weaker countries are draining the wealthier ones. The biggest problem though, is that those who hold all the power are incompetent.
The strange thing is, that Hitler wanted to create a superpower under his regime. Millions died to prevent it from happening. Yet the people of Europe are now being dictated to by unelected bureaucrats.
 
Lavinia said:
I hope the whole E.U. collapses. The intention was to create a multi-racial superstate with a central government ruling all. However, people are now realising that they have lost their individual identity and the weaker countries are draining the wealthier ones. The biggest problem though, is that those who hold all the power are incompetent.
The strange thing is, that Hitler wanted to create a superpower under his regime. Millions died to prevent it from happening. Yet the people of Europe are now being dictated to by unelected bureaucrats.
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You hit the nail on the head.
 
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dilettante said:
People are getting restless about austerity and this Winter things will get dark and cold.

A political party tarred "right wing" by the establishment is growing in popularity and the domestic secret police have been deployed to suppress it. Infiltration, incitement... the playbook seems all too familiar.

Elections "can't be held" because "there is no paper for ballots." :ROFLMAO:


Flash in the pan news cycle noise? A multi-year struggle ahead? Civil war?

How many members leaving would tip the scales of the EU, forcing Brussels to look for honest jobs?
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Disclaimer: Only German issues.

The "no paper for ballots" is in fact ridiculous. A German printing company answered: "Give us six weeks and we have printed everything you like."
 
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Lavinia said:
..................and the weaker countries are draining the wealthier ones. The biggest problem though, is that those who hold all the power are incompetent.
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How is that happening?

Interestingly as you say these things, the people of the country of Georgia are protesting because they want to join the EU.
 
The germans have always had a reputation for efficiency. It must be very frustrating to
Debrah N. said:
How is that happening?

Interestingly as you say these things, the people of the country of Georgia are protesting because they want to join the EU.
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They surely fear they face the same threat as Ukraine? These countries want the protection that being part of the EU would give them.
 
Lavinia said:
The germans have always had a reputation for efficiency. It must be very frustrating to

They surely fear they face the same threat as Ukraine? These countries want the protection that being part of the EU would give them.
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You're right, I watched a news video where the interviewee mentioned that they were anxious to join because they were afraid of Russia. But my first question was, how are the weaker EU nations sucking the more successful ones dry? Is the EU a body similar to a country like Canada for example, where the less successful provinces are in part, supported by the more successful?
 
dilettante said:
People are getting restless about austerity and this Winter things will get dark and cold.

A political party tarred "right wing" by the establishment is growing in popularity and the domestic secret police have been deployed to suppress it. Infiltration, incitement... the playbook seems all too familiar.

Elections "can't be held" because "there is no paper for ballots." :ROFLMAO:


Flash in the pan news cycle noise? A multi-year struggle ahead? Civil war?

How many members leaving would tip the scales of the EU, forcing Brussels to look for honest jobs?
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Sounds like another example of the far right trying to take the world back to the 50's where women had to get permission for everything (including reproduction rights), and there was no consideration for the health of our planet nor it's ability to support humanity long term. Germany's far-right AfD to campaign to leave EU, euro and Paris deal
 
Doesn't look so hot over there.

Situation in Europe December 2024 (Part 1)

Job loss. Businesses closing or leaving. Taxes, taxes, and more taxes. People out of money. CO2 taxes raised again. People giving their homes to kids, fearing the return of inheritance taxes. Ukraine is becoming a tremendous drain.

"Bunker app" coming to find a place to hide as the war ramps up. Building more bunkers and designating subway stations as bunkers. Teachers told to prepare children for war.

State Television out of touch and continuing to accelerate wokeness, but tax support is coerced and people aren't happy.
 
Debrah N. said:
How is that happening?

Interestingly as you say these things, the people of the country of Georgia are protesting because they want to join the EU.
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If these people would know what the EU really is, they wouldn't protest. In fact there is happening a color revolution as in the Ukraine in 2014, fueled by the EU and another country which I don't mention here, since I don't want to interfere with the "no politics" rule.
 
George1959 said:
How is it possible then that the chairwoman of the AfD Alice Weidel is a lesbian woman?
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Is there a reason that a lesbian couldn't be attracted to controlling abortion or a reason that a lesbian cannot believe that we have no responsibility to take care of the planet? Is she not allowed to be as wrong on those issues as any uninformed right wing heterosexual person? Those two issues have nothing to do with her sexuality.

Besides, just because American right wingers tend to disavow homosexuality in all it's stripes, doesn't mean that it's the same everywhere. I think being a right wing person merely suggests an affinity for 'control' and return to an era where those folks felt more in control (remember the good ole days kind of thinking) and that can have as many variations as there are regions. And even within those regions, there are variations of people and proclivities.
 
Debrah N. said:
Is there a reason that a lesbian couldn't be attracted to controlling abortion or a reason that a lesbian cannot believe that we have no responsibility to take care of the planet? Is she not allowed to be as wrong on those issues as any uninformed right wing heterosexual person? Those two issues have nothing to do with her sexuality.

Besides, just because American right wingers tend to disavow homosexuality in all it's stripes, doesn't mean that it's the same everywhere. I think being a right wing person merely suggests an affinity for 'control' and return to an era where those folks felt more in control (remember the good ole days kind of thinking) and that can have as many variations as there are regions. And even within those regions, there are variations of people and proclivities.
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The AfD is the only party which is against censorship in the media and for plebiscites.

The statement that the AfD wants to cut civil liberties is wrong. And it is not more on the right side as one of your parties.

And not only Germany but several countries in Europe have a surge of votes for conservative parties like Romania, Austria, Italy, France and even Sweden. The people are fed up with some issues.
 
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George1959 said:
The AfD is the only party which is against censorship in the media and for plebiscites.

The statement that the AfD wants to cut civil liberties is wrong. And it is not more on the right side as one of your parties.

And not only Germany but several countries in Europe have a surge of votes for conservative parties like Romania, Austria, Italy, France and even Sweden. The people are fed up with some issues.
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Pendulums swing both ways, doesn't mean the 'right wing' way is improving things. It may be a case of two steps forward, and one step very far back. And particularly interesting and specific to the right wingers, is the drive to controlling women's reproductive rights and opening up the ability of corporations (and individuals) to wreak havoc on the environment in their search for profits. Those two issues seem to feature in the right wing agenda, regardless of the region.
 
You are right with the assunption that the pendulum swings both ways. But one reason might be that the side which rules, only takes care for their voters and not for all people. They overact.

It is right also, that a conservative party in every country may prefer traditional values (marriage only between man and woman, many children, abortion only within strict limiits - in Germany it's three months, no assisted dying, strict immigration law and so on).

But people who vote should look upon all aspects. In some aspects I tend to the left side, in some to the conservative (or right side, as you may call it).

The party whose claims are more important or has the majority of claims I concur with, gets my vote.

Most people even don't read the agenda of several parties before they vote, I do it and watch several discussions in our parliament.
 

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