Moving toward inelegant, clumsy speech

Here's one that bugs me but is so common now that I'm wondering if the grammar police have OKed it. It's the 'Jo and I' vs. 'Jo and me' thing. When I went to school - back in the age of dinosaurs - I was taught that the pronoun before the verb is 'I' and after the verb is 'me'. I just heard an announcer on NPR say ..... "Let Jo and I do that." Am I just behind the grammatical times?

We GRITS (Girls Raised In The South) have a lot of quirky phrases. One that used to confuse Yankees was "Well, bless your heart!" said with emphasis and with sympathy dripping from every word. They'd walk away thinking they had our most sincere blessings but actually it was a gentle southern insult.
 
Here's one that bugs me but is so common now that I'm wondering if the grammar police have OKed it. It's the 'Jo and I' vs. 'Jo and me' thing. When I went to school - back in the age of dinosaurs - I was taught that the pronoun before the verb is 'I' and after the verb is 'me'. I just heard an announcer on NPR say ..... "Let Jo and I do that." Am I just behind the grammatical times?

We GRITS (Girls Raised In tThe South) have a lot of quirky phrases. One that used to confuse Yankees was "Well, bless your heart!" said with emphasis and with sympathy dripping from every word. They'd walk away thinking they had our most sincere blessings but actually it was a gentle southern insult.

Thanks . I never realized it was a sarcastic comment and I have used it.
 
Here's one that bugs me but is so common now that I'm wondering if the grammar police have OKed it. It's the 'Jo and I' vs. 'Jo and me' thing. When I went to school - back in the age of dinosaurs - I was taught that the pronoun before the verb is 'I' and after the verb is 'me'. I just heard an announcer on NPR say ..... "Let Jo and I do that." Am I just behind the grammatical times?

We GRITS (Girls Raised In tThe South) have a lot of quirky phrases. One that used to confuse Yankees was "Well, bless your heart!" said with emphasis and with sympathy dripping from every word. They'd walk away thinking they had our most sincere blessings but actually it was a gentle southern insult.

I knew "Bless your (or his/her/their) heart" was considered an insult in the South, but in some parts of the North it's considered a positive expression.
Another one that differs: "Peachy." I've learned when some Southerners say it it means super-great, while in the North it kinda means 'Couldn't be much worse.'
 
Here's one that bugs me but is so common now that I'm wondering if the grammar police have OKed it. It's the 'Jo and I' vs. 'Jo and me' thing. When I went to school - back in the age of dinosaurs - I was taught that the pronoun before the verb is 'I' and after the verb is 'me'. I just heard an announcer on NPR say ..... "Let Jo and I do that." Am I just behind the grammatical times?
We would not say, "Let we do that." We would not say, "Let I do that." Conjoining a pronoun with a noun does not change it from direct object to subject. The announcer was guilty of hypercorrection which is very often substituting the subject form for that of the correct direct object. People who use it ignorantly assume that it sounds educated. It doesn't.

Technically, this is called indirect discourse. "Do" in this case is the infinitive form (which is indistinguishable from the indicative form in English. An infinitive does not require "to." This would be so much more apparent in a language that different forms for indicative and infinitive. But regardless, you are right; he is wrong.
 
We GRITS (Girls Raised In The South) have a lot of quirky phrases. One that used to confuse Yankees was "Well, bless your heart!" said with emphasis and with sympathy dripping from every word. They'd walk away thinking they had our most sincere blessings but actually it was a gentle southern insult.

If you're from the South, are you familiar with "..and them"?
In context: "Mary and them are coming for dinner." It's impossible to know if 'them' is one other person or multiple people. lol
 
If you're from the South, are you familiar with "..and them"?
In context: "Mary and them are coming for dinner." It's impossible to know if 'them' is one other person or multiple people. lol

Yes. And it often comes out as "Mary and 'em". It meant Mary and those you normally associated with her, her usual group.
 
I was in a convenience store and saw a sign "$5 for ate donuts". When I tried to explain that "ate" should be "eight", she just gaped at me. Guess that's why she was working in a convenience store and not at the government research center.
 
I was in a convenience store and saw a sign "$5 for ate donuts". When I tried to explain that "ate" should be "eight", she just gaped at me. Guess that's why she was working in a convenience store and not at the government research center.

You might want to go to your bible study class and learn something about humility and being charitable.

The reference to "ate" and "eight" was amusing, but insulting the clerk like that was unkind.

My grandson works in a grocery store but excelled in physics and chemistry. He chooses a career in retail food management because he likes it. Don't ever imagine he has less than a highly intelligent mind!
 
WEll here are my pet peeves:

1. I hand went. Instead of : I had gone.

2. He had ate... Instead of he had eaten.

3. He did did it. Instead of he did do it.

4. When I had came to her house. Instead of I had come,....

5. I didn't did it. Instead of I didn't do it.

BTW
I once heard people using "sick breath" for "secret".

There are more but those are the ones that annoy me most.
 
WEll here are my pet peeves:

1. I hand went. Instead of : I had gone.

2. He had ate... Instead of he had eaten.

3. He did did it. Instead of he did do it.

4. When I had came to her house. Instead of I had come,....

5. I didn't did it. Instead of I didn't do it.

BTW
I once heard people using "sick breath" for "secret".

There are more but those are the ones that annoy me most.
I can't argue with any of those.

I do have a pet hatred as well: telling a dog to lay down rather than lie down.
 

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