Mullumbinby - the Anti-vax capital of Australia

[mellowyellow]

Covid-deniers are plotting to create their own anti-vax paradise in northern NSW to escape restrictions that will prevent them from socialising or living freely anywhere else. Mullumbimby, 15 minutes' drive from Byron Bay, has been touted as a potential safe haven for people with alternative views who insist on defying science-backed government orders. The region is considered the anti-vaccine capital of Australia with as little as 39 per cent of residents fully inoculated against Covid 19..............

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...anti-vaxxers-rejected-post-Covid-society.html

 

[win231]

Well, I think they should conduct some honest research on infection rates, hospitalization rates & mortality rates. And the researchers should NOT be involved in vaccine manufacture or profiting.
And, just saying, "Infection & hospitalization rates are much higher in Mulumbinby" won't cut it.
Of course, they won't. It might be too revealing.

 

[Warrigal]

Most would rather smoke a bong rather than be vaccinated.
Good luck to them all.

 

[chic]

What's happening in Australia is absolutely chilling. I wish them well but it seems things have gone too far for Australia to ever get out of this. IDs and digitization forever. Freedom and normal = finished.

 

[Warrigal]

Funny you should say that, Chic. From our vantage point across the planet's widest ocean it looks like US is in a mess that seems to be insoluble. We see a nation divided and we are wondering what will bring you all together again. Perhaps something like colonisation of Mars? I just hope it isn't a major war with China.

 

[Don M.]

Funny you should say that, Chic. From our vantage point across the planet's widest ocean it looks like US is in a mess that seems to be insoluble. We see a nation divided and we are wondering what will bring you all together again. Perhaps something like colonisation of Mars? I just hope it isn't a major war with China.

You are Right! The "political" divisions in the U.S. are creating more and more problems every day.....and this Corona Virus, and the increasingly hardened "vaccine" attitudes among so many, are making the situation even worse. It's as if half our population has shelved all possibility of "compromise" and working together for the common good.

 

[chic]

Funny you should say that, Chic. From our vantage point across the planet's widest ocean it looks like US is in a mess that seems to be insoluble. We see a nation divided and we are wondering what will bring you all together again. Perhaps something like colonisation of Mars? I just hope it isn't a major war with China.

War with China is anticipated by some so you're correct in that assumption and we are a nation divided. That's truly sad at a time like this. It just makes everything else harder.

 

[John cycling]

Woo hoo that's awesome! Good for them!
There are a lot of us who feel exactly the same way. We are everywhere and we're here to stay.

 

[Warrigal]

War with China is anticipated by some so you're correct in that assumption and we are a nation divided. That's truly sad at a time like this. It just makes everything else harder.

It is often the case that leaders experiencing declining popularity welcome military engagement in some foreign land. It is certainly true here in Australia. While war with China is not something anyone would relish I do think that a proxy war in some satellite country might break out as the two super powers shape up against each other. If that happens Australia will be drawn into the fight.

Our defence minister is hawkish and is overseas right now bad mouthing China. In Asia Australia is seen as a proxy for US. The South China Sea could be the fuse that ignites the next war that has potential to escalate very quickly. America and her allies need to be strong, not just militarily, but also united behind the government of the day. If the people cannot unite to fight a disease then the chances of defeating a powerful enemy aren't looking very good.

I really hope that world wars have been left behind in the 20th century but I am fearful that WW III may be just around the corner. I have a feeling that the withdrawal from Afghanistan might not be what it seems. It makes sense to tidy up loose ends if some bigger threat is brewing. Compared to China, the Taliban is not a big threat to US or Australia. I hope I am wrong.

 

[chic]

It is often the case that leaders experiencing declining popularity welcome military engagement in some foreign land. It is certainly true here in Australia. While war with China is not something anyone would relish I do think that a proxy war in some satellite country might break out as the two super powers shape up against each other. If that happens Australia will be drawn into the fight.

Our defence minister is hawkish and is overseas right now bad mouthing China. In Asia Australia is seen as a proxy for US. The South China Sea could be the fuse that ignites the next war that has potential to escalate very quickly. America and her allies need to be strong, not just militarily, but also united behind the government of the day. If the people cannot unite to fight a disease then the chances of defeating a powerful enemy aren't looking very good.

I really hope that world wars have been left behind in the 20th century but I am fearful that WW III may be just around the corner. I have a feeling that the withdrawal from Afghanistan might not be what it seems. It makes sense to tidy up loose ends if some bigger threat is brewing. Compared to China, the Taliban is not a big threat to US or Australia. I hope I am wrong.

IDK. I think US withdrawal from Afghanistan was a mistake. Our physical presence as a peace keeping force did do some good in upholding citizens' basic civil rights and preventing military revolution. After WWII the US had peace keeping forces in Germany and Japan for decades. When I was in college they were still there. Peace keeping troops can prevent wars so they are useful. One of the problems US has is they want to win with no deployment and that just doesn't happen. Domestically, Civil war is possible. I hope not. But it's beginning to appear almost inevitable.

 

[Warrigal]

None of the foreign military forces were there in a peace keeping capacity. Australian troops have been engaged as peace keepers in various trouble spots and the rules of engagement are quite different.

Briefly, these are the principles that underpin peace keeping

There are three basic principles that continue to set UN peacekeeping operations apart as a tool for maintaining international peace and security.
These three principles are inter-related and mutually reinforcing:

1. Consent of the parties
2. Impartiality
3. Non-use of force except in self-defence and defence of the mandate

Principles of peacekeeping | United Nations Peacekeeping

 

[Della]

Woo hoo that's awesome! Good for them!
There are a lot of us who feel exactly the same way. We are everywhere and we're here to stay.

Particularly in ICUs.

I just read about the California couple who died of Covid leaving five young children orphaned. The grandmother said they weren't against getting vaccinated, they planned to get vaccinated, they just wanted to "learn more about it."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/13/us/california-family-covid-death-orphan-five-children/index.html

They had six months to learn more about it and all it would have taken was an hour on the internet reading what the major teaching hospitals had to say. They were procrastinating over a life and death decision.

 

[chic]

None of the foreign military forces were there in a peace keeping capacity. Australian troops have been engaged as peace keepers in various trouble spots and the rules of engagement are quite different.

Briefly, these are the principles that underpin peace keeping

Maybe we were not there as a peace keeping force but as an armed force? We were present there and it did help. At least we have peace with those nations now.