Natural Approach to Osteoporosis, Vitamin C May Be Helpful

SeaBreeze

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Many years ago I had a bone scan, and the nurse told me I had Osteopenia, the prelude to possible Osteoporosis in my old age. She recommended I take a high dose Calcium supplement and do some weight bearing exercise. I never did another x-ray, and I did not take any Calcium supplements, as I get enough calcium in my diet and Calcium in the system often times goes into the arteries, causing serious conditions like strokes. My father in law had a major stroke which left him bedridden and paralyzed, his carotid artery was over 95% blocked with Calcium deposits. His wife did have him taking oyster shell supplements for years, and he ate a lot of foods which contained Calcium.

This article explains how Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) may be helpful in treating osteoporosis. I take Vitamin C daily, along with other supplements in the article like Vitamin D3, K2, omega 3 fatty acids, Magnesium citrate, etc. I do work around the house and yard and go on daily walks with my dog, even walking counts as a weight-bearing exercise is is very good for bone strength in aging people.

I don't use any prescription drugs so far, and I'm in my mid 60s, but I know that there may be a day when I need to use a prescription medicine. But, I'm a big fan of supplements, they've done me well for years now and I will try to continue on that road. Always wise to research any side effects or drug interactions, especially for those who are under doctor's care for medical conditions.

Supplementing Calcium Is Worse Than Inefficient
Without an army of certain cooperating nutrients, calcium remains a free agent and will remain in the blood where it can accumulate and calcify in blood veins, arteries, and heart valves.

The three doctors mostly agree with the types of nutritional soldiers that are needed to escort calcium into bone matter are. There are only slight differences with minor details among them with the following list:
Omega-3 fatty acids from healthy fats are encouraged while eschewing processed oils, margarine, and processed carbohydrates. A couple of the doctors offered additional nutrients to the list such as supplemental amino acids lysine and proline and the micro-nutrient mineral boron.

Dietary silica is another mineral that’s involved with supporting bone density.



https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/d...vitamin-c-supplementation-needed-not-calcium/
 

I stopped taking calcium years ago. When doctors or other well-meaners advise I add dairy or calcium supplements to my daily routine, I ask them how they think large herbivores like elephants, giraffes, moose, horses, etc., manage to have healthy bones. Where do they imagine (non factory farm) cows obtain the calcium that goes into their milk? Most look at me in total shock because they never thought about it before.

I take vitamins B12 and D3, and eat lots of veggies and greens plus some nuts and seeds to get the vitamins and minerals I need, including calcium. I definitely don't eat as much fruit and berries as I could or should though.

Thanks for bringing this article to our attention SB! I'll pay closer attention to how much Vitamin C I'm getting through my food intake.
 
I take 1,000 mg of extra Vitamin C each day....how much do you take @SeaBreeze and what is recommended daily?
@PopsnTuff I take a 1,000mg capsule of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) daily, along with any small amount that's in my multi vitamin/mineral....but I don't take the multi every single day, just several times a week. I started taking that amount years ago, not specifically for bone health, but for immune support.
 
I hope that your controlled diet started many years ago SeaBreeze has
helped and kept the osteoporosis away.

I have eaten eggs and drank full milk most of my life and in 2017 I had a
proceedure done that involved going into an artery, at the end, they
couldn't use their preferred method of closing the entry as my artery
was calcified!

I never knew what would clear the artery till I read your attachments
above, thank you.

I am off to buy son Vitamin C.

Mike.
 
I hope that your controlled diet started many years ago SeaBreeze has
helped and kept the osteoporosis away.

I have eaten eggs and drank full milk most of my life and in 2017 I had a
proceedure done that involved going into an artery, at the end, they
couldn't use their preferred method of closing the entry as my artery
was calcified!

I never knew what would clear the artery till I read your attachments
above, thank you.

I am off to buy son Vitamin C.

Mike.


Mike, I never had a good or controlled diet at all, I eat sweets, cheeses and some fatty foods....but as I got older I ate less fried, don't do fast foods, use more olive oil, etc. I started using supplements years ago to avoid problems with diabetes, high blood pressure, osteoporosis, etc. , things that are prevalent in my immediate family. I take these things as a preventative, I've never been strict on my diet. I'm glad you survived your medical procedure and I really hope your arteries stay healthy and you have many good years to enjoy this wonderful life. 💚

I am especially concerned about calcium blocking my arteries. Honestly, I would rather have osteoporosis, a broken hip or other conditions rather than a major stroke that affects my brain and my ability to care for myself independently. Once you become paralyzed, cannot speak, cannot perform personal hygiene functions, cannot get out of bed without assistance, cannot convey what you want to say to others in the room....in my opinion, quality of life is gone. This is what I'd like to avoid, but my attitude is life is too short to deny myself of simple pleasures of good food, etc.

My most important supplement is vitamin K2, that will help any calcium stay out of my arteries. I don't claim to know very much about the body, natural supplements or anything else. I just go with what I think is best from what I've seen in life and what I've learned about prescription drugs and natural alternatives. This is what I've been using for a long time, do my best to take it daily.

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Thank you for all that information SeaBreeze, you have got
me thinking along the right lines, so I will go and trawl the
net for more information.

I will let you know if I find anything magic!

Mike.
 
Mike, I never had a good or controlled diet at all, I eat sweets, cheeses and some fatty foods....but as I got older I ate less fried, don't do fast foods, use more olive oil, etc. I started using supplements years ago to avoid problems with diabetes, high blood pressure, osteoporosis, etc. , things that are prevalent in my immediate family. I take these things as a preventative, I've never been strict on my diet. I'm glad you survived your medical procedure and I really hope your arteries stay healthy and you have many good years to enjoy this wonderful life. 💚

I am especially concerned about calcium blocking my arteries. Honestly, I would rather have osteoporosis, a broken hip or other conditions rather than a major stroke that affects my brain and my ability to care for myself independently. Once you become paralyzed, cannot speak, cannot perform personal hygiene functions, cannot get out of bed without assistance, cannot convey what you want to say to others in the room....in my opinion, quality of life is gone. This is what I'd like to avoid, but my attitude is life is too short to deny myself of simple pleasures of good food, etc.

My most important supplement is vitamin K2, that will help any calcium stay out of my arteries. I don't claim to know very much about the body, natural supplements or anything else. I just go with what I think is best from what I've seen in life and what I've learned about prescription drugs and natural alternatives. This is what I've been using for a long time, do my best to take it daily.

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I like your attitude seabreeze. I think we put too much faith in doctors, and they are so often proved wrong in their advice. I think they are all in the pockets of the drug companies and prescribe drugs when often a natural alternative would be more effective.
 
@JaniceM Hi! :)
I thought you might be interested in this very interesting thread, about how vitamin c
(and perhaps more vit c than calcium tablets) could be very helpful for bones.

I thought of it, when I read your good post in another thread, about vitamin d, etc, and the need to try to keep our bones strong to prevent falls and fractures.

I thought you might like to consider this input in this thread too.
I had found it very interesting.
 
Mike, I never had a good or controlled diet at all, I eat sweets, cheeses and some fatty foods....but as I got older I ate less fried, don't do fast foods, use more olive oil, etc. I started using supplements years ago to avoid problems with diabetes, high blood pressure, osteoporosis, etc. , things that are prevalent in my immediate family. I take these things as a preventative, I've never been strict on my diet. I'm glad you survived your medical procedure and I really hope your arteries stay healthy and you have many good years to enjoy this wonderful life. 💚

I am especially concerned about calcium blocking my arteries. Honestly, I would rather have osteoporosis, a broken hip or other conditions rather than a major stroke that affects my brain and my ability to care for myself independently. Once you become paralyzed, cannot speak, cannot perform personal hygiene functions, cannot get out of bed without assistance, cannot convey what you want to say to others in the room....in my opinion, quality of life is gone. This is what I'd like to avoid, but my attitude is life is too short to deny myself of simple pleasures of good food, etc.

My most important supplement is vitamin K2, that will help any calcium stay out of my arteries. I don't claim to know very much about the body, natural supplements or anything else. I just go with what I think is best from what I've seen in life and what I've learned about prescription drugs and natural alternatives. This is what I've been using for a long time, do my best to take it daily.

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Seabreeze, thanks for your post. I have the same opinion as you about heart disease vs. osteoporosis. I'm going to check into K-2; I know very little about it. There is some in my multi but I don't know if it's enough. I'm usually fairly knowledgeable about supplements, but for some reason I thought vitamin K was connected to blood clotting. I avoid things that could cause blood to clot more easily because several years ago I had a clot (superficial vein, not DVT) in my leg in a varicose vein and it as very painful and scary. The doc who removed the clot and the bad vein (office procedure, no big deal at all) cautioned me to be watchful for blood clots, wear support stockings on airplanes, etc.

Anyway, I'm going to do some research. I have some mild osteoporosis, but have declined the infusions, etc., they offer because the side effects sound worse than the osteoporosis and even my doc admitted there isn't any real hard evidence they do much good.
 
Reviving this topic. A couple of neighbours are concerned about osteoporosis so this got me thinking about it again. Until a couple of years ago, I was regular at the gym. Years ago my doctor had me on a heavy duty something. After a couple of years and negative online reports, I decided to quit. The Doctor was displeased.

After being so cautious about ice all winter and we finally have dry streets, I nearly went arse over teakettle in a store. There was huge boot-scraper right inside the door. Some idiot had forgot to put it outside. Anyway, it scared me enough to revisit supplements.

Those using Vitamin C, are you seeing results? I take 500 mg and have taken D3 for years. I drink 3 glasses of skim milk a day. I know I was have osteopena. I’m not keen on calcium but will consider whatever it takes.

On average, I walk 5 km a day. More in the good weather.
 
From the independent evidence I've seen, @Jules, calcium supplements and dairy foods do more harm than good to our bones as well as our arteries.

Doctors get some laughable amount of nutritional training - like a total of 3 hours or thereabouts, so I take any doctor's nutritional advice with a HUGE grain of salt. Even nutritionists are largely stuck in what was told to them 30 years ago. Current research disproves many former guidelines.

I've found www.NutritionFacts.org to be a very helpful resource, and often start there when I have a question.
 

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