Need advice, my dogs and neighbors.

[RadishRose]

Can you not go outside with their leashes and just bring them in? I'm sorry if I've forgotten whether you're disabled.

You're lucky to have a gentle Chow as they're known biters.

I wish you luck with this.

 

[Blessed]

Since he does hear you, your voice could well be the issue especially at night.
You could instead use an inexpensive dog clicker training device, and just click it to alert your dogs to come in.
P.S. Chows can be quite unpredictable and dangerous so it's best to not let him get loose.

I know about chows, as I have owned one in the past, the truth is you can't know what any dog might do, in a bad situation. That is why I have gates in my home, locks on the back gates do they can't be opened by anyone without my knowledge. I do not allow my dogs around children they do not know, I also do not take the big one on walks because I know I can't control him even on a leash. To any dog owner that says your dog does not bite, you are living in a dream world. If something, happens, it can make a dog bite. Even your own dog, might be driven out of fear and pain and bite you.

 

[SeaBreeze]

I just had a not friendly discussion with the neighbors behind me. My big dog was outside. He was barking as dogs do. I had the back door open and I hear the guy screaming from the fence. So, I go out to bring the dog in, mind you it is 7:30 pm. I do not let the dogs just go nuts, but dogs must go out to potty, get fresh air and run.

I know the guy works nights. I have tried to adjust by keeping the dogs in during the day, now he does not want them to be out at all, he even objects to me calling them in because he hears that to. He says that they just need to go. As far as I am concerned he can just call the city. The dogs are allowed to be out, the noise ordinance is from 7AM to 10PM. My dogs are never out longer than 20 minutes and if they start up I bring them in.

He has shown up on my porch before, throwing a fit. This was just after I had a hip replacement. I am at the door, with a walker and he is just going off. He had a new baby and what/ who in the hell did I think I was. I am and older person who just had a major surgery. I am doing the best I can.

I have never had a complaint about my dogs. My dogs do react to my nextdoor neighbors dogs, they are hounds and howl/bark. They also have a doggie door that allows them to go in and out at will. Maybe some of the problem is from their dogs. I asked the neighbor if this person had come to her house and complained. No, so I think the guy thinks it is all my dogs, because he hears me calling them in.

Why do people think they get to tell others how to live their lives according to what they want? I follow the laws, I have lived here for 30 years and have a good relationship with my neighbors. I am thinking I should go down to the city offices and discuss it with them, see what my rights are and what his are. This yelling and intimidation is not appropriate or acceptable to me. I wonder how he would like it if I threw a fit when his children are older, running and screaming in their back yard. No, that is just a part of life, living in a neighborhood.

Seems like he's just being a jerk, wonder if you were a man if he'd be so nasty.....I doubt it.

I let my dog out for short periods of time during the day, but he's mostly inside. My neighbor has three dogs, and at least one of them will start a barking back and forth, mine joins in. He runs to the fence, barks, then takes off and plays by himself with his ball, then he will run over again.

It never gets out of hand, I will bring him in if it goes for too long, but it's intermittent. That neighbor will bring their dogs in too, if they start to bark too long. On my other side that neighbor has one dog that rarely barks.

Dogs bark. Dogs should be able to go in their yards every day for awhile, it's healthy for them. That cranky neighbor of yours has no real complaint, or he would go and report the noise. I feel for you though, it would upset me if some jerk kept coming over and making a big stink on my front porch. You should try and record him somehow just in case there is an issue in the future.

 

[SeaBreeze]

Thanks, I know people who have done the horrible poisoning thing. I lost a dog a few years ago, one of the neighbors put out rat poison, not realizing, I that the rats would carry it somewhere else.

Yes, I agree, I should get some cameras and a cell phone so that I can record him going off on me. I told him to call the city if he wished. He says "you want me to do that"? I told him it was fine by me. He seems to think his wants come in front of others in the neighborhood. His word is law as they say. Funny enough, when I told him to call the city, his wife came out. She must have been listening. She knows he is out of line, knows he can easily get of control. If he wanted peace and quiet, he should have bought a house in the country, not pick on older people that are just living a normal life.

Good if his wife calms him down. He needs to get a pair of earplugs.....and a gag for his big fat mouth, lol.

 

[Blessed]

Seems like he's just being a jerk, wonder if you were a man if he'd be so nasty.....I doubt it.

I let my dog out for short periods of time during the day, but he's mostly inside. My neighbor has three dogs, and at least one of them will start a barking back and forth, mine joins in. He runs to the fence, barks, then takes off and plays by himself with his ball, then he will run over again.

It never gets out of hand, I will bring him in if it goes for too long, but it's intermittent. That neighbor will bring their dogs in too, if they start to bark too long. On my other side that neighbor has one dog that rarely barks.

Dogs bark. Dogs should be able to go in their yards every day for awhile, it's healthy for them. That cranky neighbor of yours has no real complaint, or he would go and report the noise. I feel for you though, it would upset me if some jerk kept coming over and making a big stink on my front porch. You should try and record him somehow just in case there is an issue in the future.

Yes, this is a normal thing, dogs being dogs. They need to get outside, fresh air, run, play, lay in the sun. I am always here, they are never left alone outside. I am doing the best I can to give them the time to do their dog things, but no, I do not want them to disturb anyone.

 

[Blessed]

Good if his wife calms him down. He needs to get a pair of earplugs.....and a gag for his big fat mouth, lol.

When that happened, I was like wow, his woman knows what is going on. Now, I will be worried a about her and the childs safety. I know one thing, if I hear anything that sounds bad over there, I will call it in. If he gets that nuts over a barking dog, lord knows how he feels about a baby crying for long periods of time when they are sick.

 

[SeaBreeze]

I have NO sympathy with you whatsoever when it comes to inconsiderate neighbors and their infernal barking dogs!! I had that very same problem back in 2002. My family and I literally had to pack up and move and sell our home to escape this barking dog in the side yard right adjacent to us, a very emotionally disturbed pound rescue animal that was left outside 24-7. We spent big money putting in double pane glass windows and doors. Even that did not help the situation. The police and animal control authorities proved to be absolutely worthless. All they did was accentuate the neighbor dispute over the barking. Now, fortunately we don't live close enough to anyone to be an unwitting victim of infernal barking dogs. If you only knew just how upsetting this is to people like me who have hyperacusia, extremely sensitive hearing who become hapless victims of something they absolutely cannot control! Now go ahead and give me all the thumbs down you want!!. I don't effing care! But god help me and anyone who tries making me a victim once again of an infernal barking dog!

Not the same. Her dog is not out 24/7.

 

[SeaBreeze]

Yes, this is a normal thing, dogs being dogs. They need to get outside, fresh air, run, play, lay in the sun. I am always here, they are never left alone outside. I am doing the best I can to give them the time to do their dog things, but no, I do not want them to disturb anyone.

I just wonder if the authorities would take it seriously, unless there was a bad incident with him. If they just said something or sent him a notice, it would just make him mad. They may not even believe you that he comes over and yells like that, unless you have proof to show them.

 

[Disgustedman]

@Disgustedman , as far as the pepper spray, no, I do not need that. I can just let go of the harness of the 90LB chow. Trust me, he can stun!! He knocks down normal visitors if I do not restrain him. Even when he is behind the gate in the house, people back up right quick. He is not mean, he does not bark when I answer the door, he just stands and looks, that is all it takes.

While your dog might look intimidating, if your dog should bite, with nothing more than your word as to what happened, there's a good chance your dog will not be long for this earth.

The cameras will help. I saw an suggestion for ear plugs. That can help, but he certainly does sound like a bully. Sorry you have such for neighbors, we had a couple next door to us with chows.

Two big babies they were, my dogs were way more aggressive.

 

[Blessed]

While your dog might look intimidating, if your dog should bite, with nothing more than your word as to what happened, there's a good chance your dog will not be long for this earth.

The cameras will help. I saw an suggestion for ear plugs. That can help, but he certainly does sound like a bully. Sorry you have such for neighbors, we had a couple next door to us with chows.

Two big babies they were, my dogs were way more aggressive.

Yes, I know if he ever did bite or hurt someone, it would be bad for him and for me financially. I did not choose to have him, he was a pet of a dear family friend. No one, in his large family or friends wanted the responsibility of taking care of him. He is quite an expense, vet, grooming, food, but he is a good dog, and my friend loved him so much. I guess that explains why when the will was read everything went to my son. He had never married or had children, he saw my son as much as his own as his best friend, my husband did.

 

[Blessed]

I just wonder if the authorities would take it seriously, unless there was a bad incident with him. If they just said something or sent him a notice, it would just make him mad. They may not even believe you that he comes over and yells like that, unless you have proof to show them.

If I go down just to discuss, it will be on record. I am not trying to prove anything. I just want to know what the law is and if I am compliant. I am not trying to have a problem with the neighbors but I am going to know what my responsibility is to the laws regarding pet ownership and noise regulations. He can call in a complaint any time he wants, he also has to have proof of such. I admit, I have dogs, they do bark, but they are not left out to disrupt the peace. If that were the case, I am sure other people would have complained.

 

[Happy Heart]

Exactly why we have indoor cats instead of barking dogs at this time of our life.

 

[Blessed]

Exactly why we have indoor cats instead of barking dogs at this time of our life.

I would have cats in addition to dogs, if I could. I am, hate to say it, but allergic to cats. I love them but have only had one, as a child, I had to take shots.

 

[katlupe]

I would talk to the police about this and make sure what your rights are. Video every time you have a confrontation with this jerk. Maybe report him for harassment. I would not let him bully me. Dogs bark and if he hated hearing barking he should have moved somewhere away from other homes.

 

[Blessed]

I would talk to the police about this and make sure what your rights are. Video every time you have a confrontation with this jerk. Maybe report him for harassment. I would not let him bully me. Dogs bark and if he hated hearing barking he should have moved somewhere away from other homes.

Thanks Kat, I do need to talk to the city and get some sort of video or recording in future. I am not going to report him for harassment unless it is necessary. I understand where he is coming from but he needs to understand that dogs are dogs, they have the need to go outside, potty, run and yes, even bark. I have no desire to create a bad relationship. I do my best to be a good, thoughtful neighbor. I am not the only person close that has dogs.

 

[hollydolly]

You need to put up a camera in a prominent position so he sees it and is aware that you're recording his every move... you can't risk him either throwing poison food over the fence.. or attacking you.. without it being recorded.. .and if it's in a prominent position he's far less likely to do something that will get him arrested

 

[Rossana]

Trying to reason with that type of person will not work in my opinion.
You might like to closely supervise your dogs while they are out and close the doggie door while you are not home. You might like to hire a dog walker to exercise them during the day.
You could try to arrange a meeting between neighbors, including him, to try to get positive results.
These would be some possible solutions if you do not want a bad relationship with him.
It is a delicate situation.

 

[Blessed]

You need to put up a camera in a prominent position so he sees it and is aware that you're recording his every move... you can't risk him either throwing poison food over the fence.. or attacking you.. without it being recorded.. .and if it's in a prominent position he's far less likely to do something that will get him arrested

I am not at all worried about him hurting me but I am worried that he might do something to the dogs. At this point, I have decided I will go out with the dogs at all times, check the yard for anything strange, make sure the dogs do not pick up anything in their mouths. I am looking at cameras now to see what would be the best thing to get that can cover the area from my backdoor and the whole yard.

 

[oldaunt]

I would call the cops (not 911 but just the local station) next time he decides to come onto your property and go off on you.
Tell the police he's been coming to your door and acting in a very threatening manner and you don't want him to come on your property again. Doesn't matter what his issue is, it's YOUR private property. He is not allowed to even set foot on your property without your permission; period, full-stop!

The police will (at least they should) go speak to him and advise him that if he comes onto your property again, he's trespassing and risks being charged as such.

This. Never tolerate a threatening bully. They only get worse.

 

[oldaunt]

Since he does hear you from inside of his house, your voice could be the issue especially at night.
You could instead use an inexpensive dog clicker training device, and just click it to alert your dogs to come in.
Also, chows can be quite unpredictable and dangerous so it's best to not let him get loose.

RE: Chows. Not true. I have owned and raised 3 of my own and been around several others. Not one was ever any kind of problem. The only time any of them approached "dangerous" was the one time some idiot started screaming at me and my girl put herself between us and stared at him. My present one is 13 now. They are no more dangerous than any other dog. Training matters.

 

[Blessed]

Trying to reason with that type of person will not work in my opinion.
You might like to closely supervise your dogs while they are out and close the doggie door while you are not home. You might like to hire a dog walker to exercise them during the day.
You could try to arrange a meeting between neighbors, including him, to try to get positive results.
These would be some possible solutions if you do not want a bad relationship with him.
It is a delicate situation.

I do not have a doggie door, I let the dogs in and out of the back door into the yard. I usually leave the back door open in the winter so I can hear them. During the summer, I let them out but close the door, can't afford to air condition the back yard. I do not mind the cold. The big dog wants to lie at the back door when it is open during the fall and spring. I do not mind as I am not paying to heat or cool the house. It is a delicate situation on my side, he does not give a crap, he wants me to obey!! I am a good neighbor, I do not allow my dogs to be a nuisance but they do have to potty, and they will bark if they see something like a squirrel. Many of those live in his back yard because he does not trim his bushes, He also has birds that nest there. I would be happy if those cardinals picked my yard but I took out all of my shrubs years ago. I can't control the wildlife and we have lots of it.

 

[Trish]

Either he thinks you and your dogs are the problem or he is not confronting your neighbours in the same way because you are the more vulnerable. The bottom line is that disputes with neighbours make life difficult for you all so, perhaps the wife can be the peacemaker and a solution can be found.

Regardless of who is right or wrong regarding the noise, he has no right to confront you in an aggressive manner and if he does it again, I think you should not engage, close the door and call the Police.

 

[Blessed]

RE: Chows. Not true. I have owned and raised 3 of my own and been around several others. Not one was ever any kind of problem. The only time any of them approached "dangerous" was the one time some idiot started screaming at me and my girl put herself between us and stared at him. My present one is 13 now. They are no more dangerous than any other dog. Training matters.

I understand that, but the media has given them a bad name. Even home insurance is climbing on the band wagon. This dog is a big gentle giant, I do not advertise that fact, his appearance can be quite daunting. He is really just a big teddy bear. The two little dogs I have I am more worried about biting. The chow, just hearing him bark inside the house is scary, many will walk away after they ring the bell, people I know are aware, so not a problem. For my normal visitors, they know to say no jumping and are prepared. They know he just wants to get them on the floor, lick their face until they wet themselves. LOL

 

[Blessed]

Either he thinks you and your dogs are the problem or he is not confronting your neighbours in the same way because you are the more vulnerable. The bottom line is that disputes with neighbours make life difficult for you all so, perhaps the wife can be the peacemaker and a solution can be found.

Regardless of who is right or wrong regarding the noise, he has no right to confront you in an aggressive manner and if he does it again, I think you should not engage, close the door and call the Police.

I have already made my mind up on that, I will tell him to leave and come back with a police officer if he wants to talk. I have no problem discussing it but due to past behavior it is better to have an officer there.

 

[oldaunt]

I understand that, but the media has given them a bad name. Even home insurance is climbing on the band wagon. This dog is a big gentle giant, I do not advertise that fact, his appearance can be quite daunting. He is really just a big teddy bear. The two little dogs I have I am more worried about biting. The chow, just hearing him bark inside the house is scary, many will walk away after they ring the bell, people I know are aware, so not a problem. For my normal visitors, they know to say no jumping and are prepared. They know he just wants to get them on the floor, lick their face until they wet themselves. LOL

My big girl only sniffs people and walks back to me. She has not jumped on anyone since she was a puppy, and the cats sleep on her. I have seen far more small dog biters than Chow biters.