New Pampers "SMART" diapers...

Phoenix said:
Everything we throw away messes it up.

When my mom was a kid she used diapers for sanitary napkins.
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I can't think of anything more soft, absorbent, or comfortable than 100% natural cotton.

The last 12 (plus) years of my pad wearing days, I used cloth pads, and wish I had made the switch to cloth pads 40 years ago.
 

Aunt Marg said:
I can't think of anything more soft, absorbent, or comfortable than 100% natural cotton.

The last 12 (plus) years of my pad wearing days, I used cloth pads, and wish I had made the switch to cloth pads 40 years ago.
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You did better than I did. I preferred tampons - it held the odor in. When I was 11 I felt cursed by it all. My curse was finally lifted 38 years later.
 
Phoenix said:
You did better than I did. I preferred tampons - it held the odor in. When I was 11 I felt cursed by it all. My curse was finally lifted 38 years later.
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Definitely a life changer for a young girl.

Everything was so old-fashioned back in the day... huge bulky pads that resembled a baby's disposable diaper more than a feminine pad... safety pins.

Designing a pad that was comfortable seemed to be the least of pad makers worries at the time.
 

Phoenix said:
Diapers always end up in the landfill. All the good land is being destroyed by one thing or another. If something wiped out all humans, the rest of life could recover.
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Exactly. Landfills being filled with toxic products that will outlive civilization.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I contemplated not posting this, because this sort of thing burns my rear-end something fierce (no pun intended)!

Aside from the stupidity factor, let's ban plastic drinking straws and instead, introduce diapers for babies that require even MORE plastic and wastefulness than the current disposable variety on the market!

Why?

From everything I'm seeing today, old-fashioned parenting and common-sense seems to be going by wayside!

https://www.change.org/p/pampers-tell-pampers-wireless-smart-baby-diapers-are-not-safe-2
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I finally have another work day- YAY!!!- but was surfing through during a little break and noticed this.
I agree "modernisms" can go too far!!
However, I still think the idea I came up with decades ago and possibly mentioned here would be good: develop diapers that have some kind of harmless built-in attachment that works similar to the old-fashioned mood rings. The rings reacted to body temperature and changed colors.
I'm sure most people who used disposable diapers can relate to the aggravation of trying to re-stick a tape after finding the diaper did not need to be changed- sometimes even using Scotch Tape to stick them back together! and diapers often got ruined in the process.
With this method, though, you could easily see if a change was necessary without removing the diaper. and it wouldn't be as "nutty" as having your phone send you a text to tell you your child needed a change!!!
 
Phoenix said:
I always thought a woman should have designed them. If a person never had to wear them himself, he would be experientially challenged.
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OMG, YES! Couldn't agree more!

My guess is, back in the day, men were at the design-level and forefront when it came to the making of such (including disposable baby diapers), however, comparing past examples of sanitary pads to today's variety, my bet is there are a few more women at the table these days, and that's a good thing. :)
 
Phoenix said:
I remember way back when when I first learned that NY dumped their garbage in the ocean. I was appalled. Still am.
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I remember watching it on television for the first time.

Absolutely sickening!

And laws are present where people are fined for tossing a McDonald's Happy Meal bag out the window of their moving vehicle? How dare them!
 
Here when we go to the river - we live in a relatively isolated part of the state - we find disposable diapers left along the riverbank along with the bottles, cans and other garbage. When it rains a gullywasher that gabage is swept out into the ocean. People throw out trash along the roadway near my house, even here in the boonies. Some have dumped their old washing machines and dryers over the bank by the river.
 
JaniceM said:
I finally have another work day- YAY!!!- but was surfing through during a little break and noticed this.
I agree "modernisms" can go too far!!
However, I still think the idea I came up with decades ago and possibly mentioned here would be good: develop diapers that have some kind of harmless built-in attachment that works similar to the old-fashioned mood rings. The rings reacted to body temperature and changed colors.
I'm sure most people who used disposable diapers can relate to the aggravation of trying to re-stick a tape after finding the diaper did not need to be changed- sometimes even using Scotch Tape to stick them back together! and diapers often got ruined in the process.
With this method, though, you could easily see if a change was necessary without removing the diaper. and it wouldn't be as "nutty" as having your phone send you a text to tell you your child needed a change!!!
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I've missed your presence on the forum really bad, Janice. So nice to see you back this morning! :love:

I so remember those old mood-rings! Talk about a walk down memory lane!

Even though I never used disposable diapers on my own children, I did occasionally change them when babysitting, and remember trying to refasten tapes. The plastic on the outside of the diaper would rip and tear when a tape was lifted/opened to check a diaper, and I remember the tapes would frequently pop open on their own as a result of baby's/child's movement (bending, stretching, etc). I remember pin-fastened a few over the years using diaper pins.

Having put my kids through cloth diapers, I always knew when my kids were wet. Diapers would sag terribly when wet, and a hand under a bottom quickly told you if the diaper was soft and fluffy or not, even through a pair of rubber pants.

Having grown up changing baby siblings, my mom taught me to run a finger around the inside elastic waistband of their rubber pants when lifting them out of their cribs after a nap, etc. Took a second and you instantly knew if someone needed changing or not.

IMO, disposables aren't what they should be. I don't think any maker of disposable diapers should put out commercials where they claim their diapers are good for 12 hours (between changes), and I believe that's where a lot of the problems related to diaper rash, etc, are born. Young mothers with little to no experience buy into that sort of thing.

Myself, I prefer the good old-fashioned awareness approach, where you actually check manually. I view it as bonding time for both baby and mom/dad, where the parent is paying close attention to the child. All too often I hear stories of mothers parking their children down in front of the television for hours on end, while they go about their daily business/affairs inside the home.

My opinion/advice to any/all... take a minute out of every hour and checkup on your children. Check their pants. The happiest babies I have ever known are babies who were well-fed and kept clean and dry.
 
Phoenix said:
Here when we go to the river - we live in a relatively isolated part of the state - we find disposable diapers left along the riverbank along with the bottles, cans and other garbage. When it rains a gullywasher that gabage is swept out into the ocean. People throw out trash along the roadway near my house, even here in the boonies. Some have dumped their old washing machines and dryers over the bank by the river.
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Makes me seethe with anger.

Society has truly lost their way.

My husband grumbles occasionally when we make a trip to the dump, but overall, I'm happy with the way things are compared to the past. Old appliances have their own place/spot, wood is separated from paper, yard clippings and waste has it's own dedicated place.

So much better than the old ways/days when all was heaped-in with everything else and then bulldozed in afterwards.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Makes me seethe with anger.

Society has truly lost their way.

My husband grumbles occasionally when we make a trip to the dump, but overall, I'm happy with the way things are compared to the past. Old appliances have their own place/spot, wood is separated from paper, yard clippings and waste has it's own dedicated place.

So much better than the old ways/days when all was heaped-in with everything else and then bulldozed in afterwards.
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The old days still live in my county, thanks to the cancellation of our recycling because of the policies of the current administration.
 
Yes, except for the cans. We aren't supposed to talk politics on this site, so if you want to know more you can send me a message. We had full recycling until this administration went to war with China.
 
Phoenix said:
Yes, except for the cans. We aren't supposed to talk politics on this site, so if you want to know more you can send me a message. We had full recycling until this administration went to war with China.
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I'm in shock. I would have never guessed (and no, I'm not trying to be funny).
 
I actually wasn't that surprised. What I was surprised about is that our recycling went to China. The county didn't seem to care. They said, "We have 10 years left in the landfill. So we are okay." In a pig's eye.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Scary to think about.

I was just reading an article on cemeteries, and how they're running out of room.

In case your interested, here is a great article on it.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/rep...meteries-running-out-of-room/article34656233/
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Thanks for the link. The article talks about people needing space to bury their dead for religious reason. People are going to have to adjust their belief system. There is only so much room. My husband and I plan to be cremated. My sister was and was scattered in the ocean. I decided to have my brother cremated. He died in prison and his kids didn't care what happened to him. So it fell to me. I had his ashes spread in a wild river near where he died. He loved to fish. I just don't want to take up the land with dead bodies. The ecosystem is having a hard enough time as it is.
 
Phoenix said:
Thanks for the link. The article talks about people needing space to bury their dead for religious reason. People are going to have to adjust their belief system. There is only so much room. My husband and I plan to be cremated. My sister was and was scattered in the ocean. I decided to have my brother cremated. He died in prison and his kids didn't care what happened to him. So it fell to me. I had his ashes spread in a wild river near where he died. He loved to fish. I just don't want to take up the land with dead bodies. The ecosystem is having a hard enough time as it is.
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As ironic as it is, Phoenix, over the years I have wondered many times when landfill and cemetery room would reach it's peak, and by the sounds of it, we're there, we've reached it.

We're looking at cremation as well, and from news reports and articles I hear about and read, more and more people are choosing to be cremated, leaving many funeral homes with the prospect of going under, which doesn't hurt my feelings one iota.
 
Aunt Marg said:
As ironic as it is, Phoenix, over the years I have wondered many times when landfill and cemetery room would reach it's peak, and by the sounds of it, we're there, we've reached it.

We're looking at cremation as well, and from news reports and articles I hear about and read, more and more people are choosing to be cremated, leaving many funeral homes with the prospect of going under, which doesn't hurt my feelings one iota.
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One of the things you might not be aware of is that if you have yourself cremated, you can have your urn placed at the head of someone else's grave space in a cemetery. While my husband and I are thinking of being scattered some place, I hate to think of someone picking me up on the bottom of their shoes. Grin.

As much as one can dislike a funeral home, they provide a needed service. I was glad for the one in my home town when both Dad and Mom died. It was comforting. Plus, one of my boyfriends had a good friend who owned one. He inherited it from his father, and went into the business himself. I talked to him quite a bit about it. It made me a lot more comfortable with them. I would not want to have to go back to the ways of digging a hole and doing it all myself. Mom told me that when she was young her little sister died and they kept her in a box on top of the old sewing machine for several days. People came by and paid their respects. Not for me. I like it better this way.
 
Phoenix said:
One of the things you might not be aware of is that if you have yourself cremated, you can have your urn placed at the head of someone else's grave space in a cemetery. While my husband and I are thinking of being scattered some place, I hate to think of someone picking me up on the bottom of their shoes. Grin.

As much as one can dislike a funeral home, they provide a needed service. I was glad for the one in my home town when both Dad and Mom died. It was comforting. Plus, one of my boyfriends had a good friend who owned one. He inherited it from his father, and went into the business himself. I talked to him quite a bit about it. It made me a lot more comfortable with them. I would not want to have to go back to the ways of digging a hole and doing it all myself. Mom told me that when she was young her little sister died and they kept her in a box on top of the old sewing machine for several days. People came by and paid their respects. Not for me. I like it better this way.
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Very interesting, and I wasn't aware of the fact.

Don't get me wrong, I, too, appreciate all that funeral homes offer, but it pains me to see people taken advantage of when they are at their lowest.

I recall stories my mom and dad shared with me regarding funerals back in the 60's, and how people's homes would take on the smell of the deceased persons remains, because entire funeral process would take days. I'm with you on not having the inner strength to go there.

Dear husband has always been an avid outdoorsman, and he said he's thought of a few locations where our remains will never be disturbed, so I'm leaving that aspect of things to him. No slip-sliding on my ashes or picking them up on the soles of ones shoes! LOL!
 
Aunt Marg said:
Very interesting, and I wasn't aware of the fact.

Don't get me wrong, I, too, appreciate all that funeral homes offer, but it pains me to see people taken advantage of when they are at their lowest.

I recall stories my mom and dad shared with me regarding funerals back in the 60's, and how people's homes would take on the smell of the deceased persons remains, because entire funeral process would take days. I'm with you on not having the inner strength to go there.

Dear husband has always been an avid outdoorsman, and he said he's thought of a few locations where our remains will never be disturbed, so I'm leaving that aspect of things to him. No slip-sliding on my ashes or picking them up on the soles of ones shoes! LOL!
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Thankfully, I've never known a funeral home that took advantage of people. Jack, the guy I was talking about, would sometimes not charge people who could not afford the funeral.

My mom was born in 1918. So her memory of her sister was probably in about 1924 or so. I was alive in the 1960s. In fact, I got married the first time in 1967. By then, no one was keeping dead people in the house. I think it was against the law. Where did your parents live? Were they hippies or something? The notable things about the sixties were all the drugs people did, the love-ins now that there were birth control pills, the anti-war demonstrations and the riots because black people were being brutalized.

I live in an area where there would be a lot of places no one except the wild animals would walk on my ashes. Still it creeps me out. Twelve years ago we dumped my husband's mother's ashes in our orchard. I think of it every time I'm in the orchard.
 
Phoenix said:
Thankfully, I've never known a funeral home that took advantage of people. Jack, the guy I was talking about, would sometimes not charge people who could not afford the funeral.

My mom was born in 1918. So her memory of her sister was probably in about 1924 or so. I was alive in the 1960s. In fact, I got married the first time in 1967. By then, no one was keeping dead people in the house. I think it was against the law. Where did your parents live? Were they hippies or something? The notable things about the sixties were all the drugs people did, the love-ins now that there were birth control pills, the anti-war demonstrations and the riots because black people were being brutalized.

I live in an area where there would be a lot of places no one except the wild animals would walk on my ashes. Still it creeps me out. Twelve years ago we dumped my husband's mother's ashes in our orchard. I think of it every time I'm in the orchard.
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Boy, you sure don't hear of such extended gracious ways too often anymore, never mind from a funeral home. Jack is an angel.

The funerals my folks spoke of were here in Canada (1950's and into the 1960's). Parents weren't hippies or anything and didn't belong to a commune, though I should mention the funerals were European in nature.

Love the orchard idea. I find comfort in talking with others about this, and it's been so refreshing chatting with you, Phoenix.

Love your company. :)
 

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