New York Mayor Adams Declares State of Emergency Over Migrant Crisis

SeniorBen said:
They're seeking asylum, so they're not illegals. That means they're following proper channels.
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When they do not cross the border at the proper check points and are taken into custody, they are not following proper channels. While they are seeking asylum, they enter this country illegally. Most border states are over run with these people and that is why the governors and mayors are shipping them out.
 

Pepper said:
Yes, you are right and it should be a federal problem, not a local one and that goes for every state, IMO
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How is that going to happen with the narrative from federal leadership that "The border is secure"? A look at local news sources from border towns shows this is not at all true. The border is as porous as a colander.
 
Once the illegals have been caught, processed and are given a court date with the "promise" they will appear in court, the Federal government then have been sending them to undisclosed locations, mainly at night, all over this country by either buses or planes for many months prior to the Governor's starting.

Why is it OK for the Feds to do this and not the Governors?

If you want asylum, do it right and come across at a legal checkpoint with proper paperwork and IDs. Too many sneaking across have been prior deportees along with convicted criminals, gang members and terrorists.

No one has the right to enter any country, here or otherwise, without entering entering legally and obeying the laws of where they are at.
 
Tish said:
Same this way.
We have a housing crisis as it is, where will they house them?
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👔 But that is the way it is supposed to be. :rolleyes:
David>>>That is so you middle class folks will have even less lower cost residence options every one knows you would likely choose if such were available.
👔 We can't let you get away like that. So y'all will be forced into more expensive housing we only want to build. Those poor we're letting in to "motivate" you sure aren't going to get us rich. 😆
 
By talking about supposedly secret nighttime flights, critics are creating an aura of mystery around a relatively straightforward issue: transporting the large number of unaccompanied migrant children who have been crossing the border for the past several years, whose arrivals have escalated since Mr. Biden took office.

After being processed at the border, many of these children and teenagers are flown to federally licensed shelters around the country before being released to family members. Thousands of such flights have been a routine part of immigration operations in the United States for decades, including under former President Donald J. Trump.

While the planes, operated by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, sometimes land at late hours of the night, they also operate during daylight hours, and they do not constitute covert or clandestine operations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/us/ghost-flights-migrant-children.html

The controversy took off on Fox News, especially after Rob Astorino, who is running for governor of New York, released a murky video this month showing migrant teenagers disembarking from a plane in Orange County, N.Y. “We the citizens pay all the bills,” he complained on Twitter.
 
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@SeniorBen
Comment by Bluesupporter1 from the video you provided IMO isn't murky.

@Bluesupporter1
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@RobAstorino
What’s the plan for these people? What kind of employment do they end up at?

Good questions IMO

Then there plain to see are the disembarking bus passengers carrying duffle bags probably of clothing & other basic essentials. Multiply the cost of supplies & transportation by the amount being transported either by the federal government or the governors & the cost begins to be real.

My preference would be to return those to their country of origin that didn't cross at legally recognized access points. Of course return them the way they arrived with no tax payer paid for goodies.

Totally eliminating that cost & helping Americans that are homeless or otherwise more dependent on social services financial aid would be my preferred use of those federal tax dollars.
 
SeniorBen said:
They're seeking asylum, so they're not illegals. That means they're following proper channels.
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Follow proper channels? About half of asylum seekers don‘t even bother to show up for their court hearing. Even if they are ordered to depart, its back to a sanctuary city or state.
https://www.immigrationreform.com/2021/02/17/do-aliens-show-for-court-dates-immigrationreform-com/
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...legal_aliens_ignoring_deportation_orders.html
 
ElCastor said:
Follow proper channels? About half of asylum seekers don‘t even bother to show up for their court hearing. Even if they are ordered to depart, its back to a sanctuary city or state.
https://www.immigrationreform.com/2021/02/17/do-aliens-show-for-court-dates-immigrationreform-com/
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...legal_aliens_ignoring_deportation_orders.html
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Nope, those are extremely biased, unreliable sources of information.

A study published last year in the University of Pennsylvania Law Review found that “88% of all immigrants in immigration court with completed or pending removal cases over the past eleven years attended all of their court hearings.” The analysis of government data also revealed that 95% of nondetained individuals who filed for asylum or other forms of relief from removal attended all of their court hearings over the same time period from 2008 to 2018, the authors said.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/f...ylum-grants-and-immigration-court-attendance/
 
@SeniorBen
The rest of the article you posted has this.

“Let’s put the resources into that so people can find out right away,” he said. “Do they qualify or not? Right now, as you know, it’s four or five, six years before they know. Meanwhile, they’re living in the United States. We know that only about half of them even show up for their court cases. No wonder they’re in the United States for — for several years. And at the end of the day, only 15% of them qualify. So it’s — it’s a bad situation.”

A spokeswoman for Portman said his claim that “only about half” of the people coming to the U.S. attend their immigration court hearings is based on data from the Department of Justice’s Executive Office for Immigration Review. It shows that nearly 50% of removal orders are issued “in absentia” — meaning the individual fails to appear — in initial case completions.



Key take aways.

And at the end of the day, only 15% of them qualify.

It shows that nearly 50% of removal orders are issued “in absentia” — meaning the individual fails to appear — in initial case completions.




That was from your post as you can see.

FactChecking Claims About Asylum Grants and Immigration Court Attendance
By D'Angelo Gore

Posted on April 1, 2021

From this web site
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/rising-border-encounters-in-2021

As demonstrated by Figure 4, the rapid increase in “single adults” being apprehended at the border began immediately following the COVID-19 pandemic and the implementation of Title 42 in March 2020. Beginning in April 2020, apprehensions in that demographic rose for 14 months straight, peaking at 117,397 apprehensions in May before leveling off at over 100,000 per month.

Since 2013, there have been periodic increases in the number of unaccompanied children arriving at our border and seeking protection, including in 2014, 2016, and 2019 (see Figure 11). In 2020, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the number of unaccompanied children apprehended at the border dropped significantly to a low of 712 in April 2020. These figures began to rise again in the summer of 2020 and increased steadily through the fall, reaching 4,853 in December 2020.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/f...ylum-grants-and-immigration-court-attendance/

Whether peaking at 117,397 or leveling off at over 100,000 per month, that is a lot of people to deal with. I lke Canada's reaction to illegal immigrants.

Deportation - Canada
Deportation and removal are always the final punishment for illegally entering countries. So, even if the illegal immigrant pays a fine or receives some form of punishment, such as imprisonment, they’re still returned to their home country. For instance, Canada has carried out mass deportations of non-citizens in the past.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/punishment-for-illegally-entering-countries

Final it doesn't mention allowing to live in Canada for several years until a claim for amnesty is processed.
 
How about the illegals that have crossed and weren't caught by border patrol? They are free to move across our country and we have no idea who or what these people are about. This is a major national security issue.

I agree with Canada that asylum isn't granted and sends them back to the country of origin when they don't follow the rules for legal entry. There has to be consequences when these people break the law.

Unaccompanied children should be returned to their parents in the country of origin and not released to family member in this country.

If American parents abandoned their children, it would be considered child neglect/abuse/abandonment depending on how the law is written for a particular state.
 
Knight said:
@SeniorBen
The rest of the article you posted has this.

“Let’s put the resources into that so people can find out right away,” he said. “Do they qualify or not? Right now, as you know, it’s four or five, six years before they know. Meanwhile, they’re living in the United States. We know that only about half of them even show up for their court cases. No wonder they’re in the United States for — for several years. And at the end of the day, only 15% of them qualify. So it’s — it’s a bad situation.”

A spokeswoman for Portman said his claim that “only about half” of the people coming to the U.S. attend their immigration court hearings is based on data from the Department of Justice’s Executive Office for Immigration Review. It shows that nearly 50% of removal orders are issued “in absentia” — meaning the individual fails to appear — in initial case completions.
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That's a quote from Rob Portman, a politician. Try posting a legitimate study to support your argument -- not what Big Brother tells you is the truth.
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It's hard to believe that people put so much faith in politicians these days that they accept their word over scientists, in the case of vaccines, and legitimate studies, in the case of immigration and other issues. These people voluntarily abide by rules put in place to control us and our thoughts.
 
SeniorBen said:
That's a quote from Rob Portman, a politician. Try posting a legitimate study to support your argument -- not what Big Brother tells you is the truth.
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It's hard to believe that people put so much faith in politicians these days that they accept their word over scientists, in the case of vaccines, and legitimate studies, in the case of immigration and other issues. These people voluntarily abide by rules put in place to control us and our thoughts.
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SeniorBen said:
That's a quote from Rob Portman, a politician. Try posting a legitimate study to support your argument -- not what Big Brother tells you is the truth.
9781433202469.jpg


It's hard to believe that people put so much faith in politicians these days that they accept their word over scientists, in the case of vaccines, and legitimate studies, in the case of immigration and other issues. These people voluntarily abide by rules put in place to control us and our thoughts.
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Did you read where the content I posted from the article YOU POSTED. Maybe you only read a small portion & not the entire article. Your source if you don't like what the rest of the article was about don't blame me.


Meanwhile illegals in millions are in America sucking up tax money that would be better spent on legal American citizens.
 
Knight said:
Did you read where the content I posted from the article YOU POSTED. Maybe you only read a small portion & not the entire article. Your source if you don't like what the rest of the article was about don't blame me.


Meanwhile illegals in millions are in America sucking up tax money that would be better spent on legal American citizens.
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I did read it. Did you? The article's author wasn't using Portman's statement as proof that only half of asylum seekers show up for their hearings. He's a politician, and as is typical of many politicians, he is lying for political gain. That's what the article is pointing out. Everything a politician says should be factchecked, which is what the article attempts to do. They're factchecking his claim and they found it to be false. Other politicians are parroting his claim, and they are also spreading misinformation.

JFC.
 
Pepper said:
Except it wouldn't be, and you know it.
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But the potential would be there. Aging population & decreasing income might & I emphasize might just be the catalyst for change.
SeniorBen said:
I did read it. Did you? The article's author wasn't using Portman's statement as proof that only half of asylum seekers show up for their hearings. He's a politician, and as is typical of many politicians, he is lying for political gain. That's what the article is pointing out. Everything a politician says should be factchecked, which is what the article attempts to do. They're factchecking his claim and they found it to be false. Other politicians are parroting his claim, and they are also spreading misinformation.

JFC.
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What I did was copy & paste portions of the article that you posted. The percent's showing the amount of illegals that are here illegally & the percent's shown that don't show up for their amnesty hearing are from your post. I don't know about you but for me that info indicates one heck of a lot of people here illegally.
 

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