Newly old person introduction.

Hi there

well, I am approaching 62 now and been retired temporarily for about 15 months following recovery from prostate cancer. While receiving secondary radiation therapy I found to my surprise that of all the guys being treated, I was the only one still working full time and thought, well this sucks so I retired.

We then took the opportunity to visit my wife's family in Indonesia and spend a year in our villa in north Bali but have returned to Perth as our 14yo Indonesian son is much happier here. So is my wife for that matter.

So here we are back in Perth, I do need to get back into the workforce though, with the way the property market is, my self funded retirement is no longer possible unfortunately. Certainly though, it is no easy feat getting back into the workforce in my 22 year career which I left. Some 20 applications later, with a lifetime of knowledge and experience, I cannot even get an interview. So it looks like I will have to work toward some menial low wage employment to see me through until the aged pension or the grave whichever comes first.

To tell you the truth, I have not taken to becoming older very well at all, which came as a bit of a shock to me. I was fine in my 50's but the day I turned 60, everything changed. My mindset completely altered, I did not feel like me any more. I have had almost 2 years to adapt but it is not going well. It is partly because of the way others treat me without them realising it. As an example, driving back with friends and family after a trip in the country and sharing driving in the last week or two. Without even consulting me, they decided that I would not need to drive, my 21yo son would. I have a faultless 44 year driving record so there was no reason I could not drive but still, the decision was made without asking me.

And, to be honest, I do not feel so confident on my feet any longer, I don't feel so stable and have developed a fear of heights that I never had before. I don't like it and it stops me from doing many things that I would have not even hesitated at a few years ago. We were down in Albany, WA just the last few days and the climbing over rocks etc and over the past few months through Bali at waterfalls near our home was certainly more difficult for me. So, there are changes happening within myself that I don't like at all but cannot do anything except accept them.

It makes me wonder then, what do my family and friends really think of me now? Are they just being nice to me? Do they see these changes that must be occurring to me as a real sign of me being older and less competent? I know that the younger generation treat me differently, I do not speak the same language as them, I am sure of it. It is difficult to be part of their lives because their mindset does not include socialising with an older person, I am not one of them.

So, my self confidence which up until recently was fine, is now having big self diagnosis problems, it simply does not trust itself. I used to think, I am older now, I am wiser, others will appreciate that and with my years of life and experience I can handle anything and anyone. But the truth is, that is not the case. Others do not see that in me, I am just getting older, easy to replace in this high tech fast moving world where old means obsolete, it does not equate to experience at all.

I feel sorry for my lovely wife of 10 years and 12 years my junior. (My first wife passed away of bowel cancer at the age of 46). My lovely Indonesian wife loves me completely it would seem and it upsets her me thinking I am of no value to her any longer apart from her loving me and me loving her. I am a logical person, having worked in law and policy for a long time and to be honest, I think she would now be better of with a younger person who can give me more of the life she deserves. This is partially a result of my prostate cancer but is much more as I have stated above. It is very hard for me to be the man she needs now, on many levels even though she thinks that is not so. To me it is.

Anyway, that is more or less my story thus far. I know it is not what a lot of you may want to hear, you will just think stop whinging and get on with things, but is not as easy as that and to be honest, I don't think I want to. The thought of growing old simply does not appeal to me and while I have the utmost respect for others, I can't equate myself to old age.

Thankyou for listening.

Adam
 

Hi Adam, good to have you join us! I'm in my mid-60s, and much like you I'm aware of my age more than in my past. We are getting older and being more careful in where we climb or walk is just being smart. Word of advice, don't short-sell yourself and appreciate the fact that you have a loving wife to share your golden years with. I'm happy that you were able to survive your cancer.

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Hi there

well, I am approaching 62 now and been retired temporarily for about 15 months following recovery from prostate cancer. While receiving secondary radiation therapy I found to my surprise that of all the guys being treated, I was the only one still working full time and thought, well this sucks so I retired.

We then took the opportunity to visit my wife's family in Indonesia and spend a year in our villa in north Bali but have returned to Perth as our 14yo Indonesian son is much happier here. So is my wife for that matter.

So here we are back in Perth, I do need to get back into the workforce though, with the way the property market is, my self funded retirement is no longer possible unfortunately. Certainly though, it is no easy feat getting back into the workforce in my 22 year career which I left. Some 20 applications later, with a lifetime of knowledge and experience, I cannot even get an interview. So it looks like I will have to work toward some menial low wage employment to see me through until the aged pension or the grave whichever comes first.

To tell you the truth, I have not taken to becoming older very well at all, which came as a bit of a shock to me. I was fine in my 50's but the day I turned 60, everything changed. My mindset completely altered, I did not feel like me any more. I have had almost 2 years to adapt but it is not going well. It is partly because of the way others treat me without them realising it. As an example, driving back with friends and family after a trip in the country and sharing driving in the last week or two. Without even consulting me, they decided that I would not need to drive, my 21yo son would. I have a faultless 44 year driving record so there was no reason I could not drive but still, the decision was made without asking me.

And, to be honest, I do not feel so confident on my feet any longer, I don't feel so stable and have developed a fear of heights that I never had before. I don't like it and it stops me from doing many things that I would have not even hesitated at a few years ago. We were down in Albany, WA just the last few days and the climbing over rocks etc and over the past few months through Bali at waterfalls near our home was certainly more difficult for me. So, there are changes happening within myself that I don't like at all but cannot do anything except accept them.

It makes me wonder then, what do my family and friends really think of me now? Are they just being nice to me? Do they see these changes that must be occurring to me as a real sign of me being older and less competent? I know that the younger generation treat me differently, I do not speak the same language as them, I am sure of it. It is difficult to be part of their lives because their mindset does not include socialising with an older person, I am not one of them.

So, my self confidence which up until recently was fine, is now having big self diagnosis problems, it simply does not trust itself. I used to think, I am older now, I am wiser, others will appreciate that and with my years of life and experience I can handle anything and anyone. But the truth is, that is not the case. Others do not see that in me, I am just getting older, easy to replace in this high tech fast moving world where old means obsolete, it does not equate to experience at all.

I feel sorry for my lovely wife of 10 years and 12 years my junior. (My first wife passed away of bowel cancer at the age of 46). My lovely Indonesian wife loves me completely it would seem and it upsets her me thinking I am of no value to her any longer apart from her loving me and me loving her. I am a logical person, having worked in law and policy for a long time and to be honest, I think she would now be better of with a younger person who can give me more of the life she deserves. This is partially a result of my prostate cancer but is much more as I have stated above. It is very hard for me to be the man she needs now, on many levels even though she thinks that is not so. To me it is.

Anyway, that is more or less my story thus far. I know it is not what a lot of you may want to hear, you will just think stop whinging and get on with things, but is not as easy as that and to be honest, I don't think I want to. The thought of growing old simply does not appeal to me and while I have the utmost respect for others, I can't equate myself to old age.

Thankyou for listening.

Adam
Hey Adam...
When I turned 60... I embraced it because there was nothing I could do to change it. I had a great celebration at my favorite restaurant with family and friends. However, the next day, I got the news that my sister was killed by a hit and run driver on my birthday while crossing the street. There are no words. I pray you are able to embrace each age. You have to set the stage for each birthday...not your family nor the fact you feel you cannot get a job because of your age...yes, very hard to deal with by no means. You have 2 choices, give in to what society and family think is best for you or change your life to suit YOU!!! Much love in moving forward on your terms. Never give up!!!!
 
Hi Adam, good to have you join us! I'm in my mid-60s, and much like you I'm aware of my age more than in my past. We are getting older and being more careful in where we climb or walk is just being smart. Word of advice, don't short-sell yourself and appreciate the fact that you have a loving wife to share your golden years with. I'm happy that you were able to survive your cancer.

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ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE PIC SeaBreeze!!!!♄
 
Hey Adam...
When I turned 60... I embraced it because there was nothing I could do to change it. I had a great celebration at my favorite restaurant with family and friends. However, the next day, I got the news that my sister was killed by a hit and run driver on my birthday while crossing the street. There are no words. I pray you are able to embrace each age. You have to set the stage for each birthday...not your family nor the fact you feel you cannot get a job because of your age...yes, very hard to deal with by no means. You have 2 choices, give in to what society and family think is best for you or change your life to suit YOU!!! Much love in moving forward on your terms. Never give up!!!!
Hi Ladybj

So sorry to hear what happened, we never really know what is around the corner do we. My inlaws neighbour went out to the shops quickly with her daughter on the back of a motorbike just recently and never came home. You never know.......

Thankyou for your advice, it will give me strength moving forward. ā˜ŗļøšŸ§”
 
Hi Ladybj

So sorry to hear what happened, we never really know what is around the corner do we. My inlaws neighbour went out to the shops quickly with her daughter on the back of a motorbike just recently and never came home. You never know.......

Thankyou for your advice, it will give me strength moving forward. ☺🧔
Thank you. I feel my birthdays will not be the same because I was one that celebrated the whole month of November... However, I will make the best of my next birthday. You hang in there and live life as you see fit for YOU!!!! You still have a lot of life to live.
 
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Hi Adam, good to have you here, we have a few Australian members so you won't feel like the only one in the pack...

Thanks for your heartfelt introduction. I wonder if you're self conscience hasn't taken such a knock due to the fight with the Prostate cancer, , and also the struggle you're having of finding another job, maybe has created some anxiety, which has the knock on effect of preventing you from doing things you've always taken for granted .
Perhaps others close to you have noticed this and are trying to be as caring as they can, and don't realise they may be causing more anxiety. Viscous circle.

I think perhaps if you could tell your family what you've told us, it might help. It certainly sound like you have a loving family who care for your well-being, and maybe they're afraid if they let you do too mcuh you';ll get poorly again, you have to let them know you're determined to rise above that .

In the meantime, welcome to this forum. I took early retirement 2 years ago, and I'm fortunate that I don't need to find another job..

Congrats on winning the PC battle, now you have another chance at life, you can do it , and we'll be here to cheer you on.(y)
 
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Welcome Adam. That was a great intro, I’m glad you decided to join us and I hope you enjoy your time here.
 
Hi Adam. I am Warrigal from Sydney and I am (almost) 77. I effectively retired at 55 because I lost my love of teaching and also because I had three old ladies who needed more help and attention and I could supply it. I have never regretted this decision.

At first I did a bit of contract work for a couple of government organisations - TAFE and VETAB. They had a backlog of computer work to be done because of new national curriculums that required rewriting of modules etc. I was useful because of my education background and an ability to find my way around data bases without supervision. I worked as a casual and named my own price. Don't sell yourself short - you have saleable skills. See if you can make some useful contacts and start selling yourself as a flexible, skilled worker.

Later I found much satisfaction in volunteer work. By this time my income was stabilised with a part pension and invested savings.

Getting older does mean some health problems. Mine have been mostly osteoarthritis. One by one my major joints started to wear out. Since turning 70 I have had both knees, both shoulders and one hip replaced completely. This sounds horrific but it has given me a new lease of life. Try to think of your operation in the same light and instead of worrying about current limitations remind yourself that healing takes time. So does adjusting to changed circumstances.

Don't worry about how others see you. Just live your life to the full, letting go of things that are no longer possible without regret. Every age brings with it some trials and some new blessings. Look for the blessings and other people will forget about your age and see the inner you.

You are a fortunate man to have a lovely wife to share each day with. Make it your primary concern to love her and make her happy. Stay positive because sinking to depression is not good for either of you.

Here endeth the lesson. Sorry about the preaching.

Welcome to the forum. Live long and prosper.
 
Hi Adam,welcome aboard,glad you found us,you survived cancer
You'll meet some wonderful people from around the world here at SF
I'm in my mid 60's,as I grow older can't do all the things I use to do when I was younger.I take each day as it comes
Sue in Buffalo,NY
 
Prostate cancer is rough. Great that you came through it. I think it takes time to adjust to believing you are healthy again. I'm 72, so, 60 to me is still young. I hope that you will come around to seeing that you are going through the normal stages of aging, as we all do. Meanwhile, your family seems to be very supportive and caring. Talk with them about how you feel - and listen to them as well.
 
Hi, Adam! I'm in my mid-60s (Gasp! How is that possible?) and live in Southern California.

60 was by far my roughest birthday. There was no longer any way to dodge the reality that I was no longer just on the getting older journey, I'd arrived. The blow of turning 65 was softened considerably by the age-related golden key to US Medicare, meaning I'd no longer need to pay for private health insurance.

Yes, people can be annoyingly condescending toward seniors in the name of being helpful. Also dismissive. It's mostly strangers, but it rankles nevertheless. Our generation behaved the same in our younger years, hard as it is to acknowledge. Take heart in remembering that the oldsters we marginalized didn't wither or die because of our insensitive actions, and neither should we.

Senior Forums is a safe, supportive, fun corner of cyberspace. Welcome to the group!
 
When you are in your mid-eighties looking back at when I was in my sixties, they were great years.
We were both retired, enjoyed our home and gardens, looked forward to the grand kids who were
being born, and were fortunate to be able to travel for the next fifteen years. Did cruises, saw some of
Europe, the States(Including Alaska, the Grand Canyon) and Australia and New Zealand, also saw
much of our own country Canada.
So when you whine about being in your sixties, look ahead with great expectations!
 
Adam,

Welcome aboard.

Going through prostrate cancer treatment is a tough road. Did you have to have chemo as part of your treatment before starting radiation? If you did that would make the road you traveled especially difficult. I completed radiation treatment and still have a year to go with the hormone treatment. It isn't as tough, but it still isn't fun.

Pay attention to the feelings expressed by your wife. She is far more worried about your long term physical and mental health than any short term effects you are currently experiencing. I know my wife was.

I hope your job search lands you a good job and that you get resettled.

Drop in from time to time, we are a philosophical bunch, and sometimes we are even entertaining.
 
Prostate cancer is rough. Great that you came through it. I think it takes time to adjust to believing you are healthy again. I'm 72, so, 60 to me is still young. I hope that you will come around to seeing that you are going through the normal stages of aging, as we all do. Meanwhile, your family seems to be very supportive and caring. Talk with them about how you feel - and listen to them as well.
you're the youngest 72 year old I've ever seen in my life.... :oops:🧔😜
 

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