Nicola Bulley

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Rose65

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Absolutely mystifying. How can a grown woman simply disappear? It's like the ship, the Mary Celeste.

I don't know about anyone else but my dog would cry, bark and never leave the last place she was with me. Though there is no limit to human behaviour, this one is incredibly puzzling. No assumptions should be made. Look at those who have never been found - Madelaine McCann, Lord Lucan.

Apparently 180,000 people go missing annually. Sometimes the truth is very unpalatable, such as the Canoe Couple John and Anne Darwin and that MP years ago, John Stonehouse.

I wish Sir Arthur Conan Doyle were still alive, I am sure he would solve this through logic and The Facts. He did help in real cases occasionally.

I cannot help thinking of her children, their feelings must be indescribable. This is some terrible tragedy and I do hope the truth is found soon.
 

yes it's very odd pehnomena.. I keep hoping she's just walked away from her life, and is too scared to come back now after all the major hunt for her, but I fear that actually she;s been abducted. How else could it be explained that her phone was still connected to a work conference and on lying on the bench..

For everyone outside the UK , who doesn't know the story...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ivers-loggerheads-happened-Nicola-Bulley.html
 
Capt Lightning said:
The Mary Celeste (I'm so glad that you got the name correct) didn't disappear - but the crew did. I've often wondered just how easy it would be to disappear in this age of mass surveillance .
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Of course, yes, the ship found empty.

I think it almost impossible to disappear in today's life. You would have to disguise yourself , spend only cash. Even then cameras are everywhere.
 
Rose65 said:
Absolutely mystifying. How can a grown woman simply disappear? It's like the ship, the Mary Celeste.

I don't know about anyone else but my dog would cry, bark and never leave the last place she was with me. Though there is no limit to human behaviour, this one is incredibly puzzling. No assumptions should be made. Look at those who have never been found - Madelaine McCann, Lord Lucan.

Apparently 180,000 people go missing annually. Sometimes the truth is very unpalatable, such as the Canoe Couple John and Anne Darwin and that MP years ago, John Stonehouse.

I wish Sir Arthur Conan Doyle were still alive, I am sure he would solve this through logic and The Facts. He did help in real cases occasionally.

I cannot help thinking of her children, their feelings must be indescribable. This is some terrible tragedy and I do hope the truth is found soon.
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yes the strange thing is the dog. The first supposition was that she'd gone into the water to rescue the dog, but the dog was bone dry. Then the next theory was that she'd slipped into the water and drowned.. however again the dog was dry..and anyone who has dogs that if you go into the water your dog will be delighted to follow whatever the circumstances..

The fact her phone was still connected, the dog was dry, the dog was off leash, all point to an abduction..IMO
 
If I may propose a theory.
What if she thought her dog was about to jump in to the water, so she quickly leaves her phone on the bench, runs to the edge. Dog doesn't jump in after all but she has a stroke or heart attack and drops into the water, sinking without a struggle?
 
Rose65 said:
If I may propose a theory.
What if she thought her dog was about to jump in to the water, so she quickly leaves her phone on the bench, runs to the edge. Dog doesn't jump in after all but she has a stroke or heart attack and drops into the water, sinking without a struggle?
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Yes it's a Theory Rose, but as some one who has had many dogs, I know that if I went into the water for any reaon at all, the dog would jump in with me thinking we were going to have fun... and even if this one didn't ( and he didn't because he was bone dry).. the river has been searched by experts and they say she's not in the water...
 
hollydolly said:
Yes it's a Theory Rose, but as some one who has had many dogs, I know that if I went into the water for any reaon at all, the dog would jump in with me thinking we were going to have fun... and even if this one didn't ( and he didn't because he was bone dry).. the river has been searched by experts and they say she's not in the water...
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I expect you are right, knowing doggy behaviour. Yet I keep coming back to her being in the water and assume they have failed to find the exact spot for reasons unknown.
 
Rose65 said:
I expect you are right, knowing doggy behaviour. Yet I keep coming back to her being in the water and assume they have failed to find the exact spot for reasons unknown.
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yes I think we're all thinking that's a possibility, but they've had police divers in, and now a specialist people finder diver, and they say there's absolutely no sign she's ever been in the water. Not a piece of her clothing , nothing at all.. :(
 
Mysterious disappearances like these make for some great stories. The world is a big place, not hard for a body, and sometimes a living person to just disappear, but we all want explanations...
Capt Lightning said:
The Mary Celeste... I've often wondered just how easy it would be to disappear in this age of mass surveillance .
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Similar things do still happen, see the Ghost boat investigation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_boat_investigation ).

And of course there is the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370 )
 
Alligatorob said:
Mysterious disappearances like these make for some great stories. The world is a big place, not hard for a body, and sometimes a living person to just disappear, but we all want explanations...

Similar things do still happen, see the Ghost boat investigation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_boat_investigation ).

And of course there is the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370 )
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yes but in this instance it's a little river meandering basically though a meadow... not a huge sea or ocean..
 
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The partner of missing mother-of-two Nicola Bulley today paid an emotional visit to the last place she was seen - as a super high-tech sonar camera scoured the riverbed in search of a potential body some 12 days after she vanished.

Paul Ansell, 44, was pictured with diving expert Peter Faulding who told the anxious father 'she's not here' during a third extensive day of searching along the River Wyre in Lancashire.


The expert took MailOnline to the scene and pointed out that the water was fairly shallow - no deeper than 3ft - and covered with jagged rocks.

He said: 'If this is where Nicola fell in you can see that the water is not particularly deep. There are lots of rocks and if she was in the water she would be able to grab hold of them.

'No one heard any shouts for help and I just can't see how she could drown here.

'The only possibility is that she fell head first and was knocked out on the rocks, but I don't see how that could happen.'

Lancashire Police are working on the hypothesis that Nicola slipped into the water and drowned.

But last night police said it was still a 'possibility' she left the area by one path not covered by cameras which is crossed by the main road through the village, and officers were trying to trace dashcam footage from 700 drivers who passed along the road at the time she disappeared, around 9.20am.

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It's weird when someone just vanishes. The TV is on, a half eaten pizza, and gone? There's hundreds of thousands who are "gone". OK, some may be due to foul play, But you'd have to have one busy serial killer to whack way over 100,000s/year. How do you just become somebody else? I have a hard time just keeping up being a real me, how do keep up being a fake person?
 
hollydolly said:
Yes it's a Theory Rose, but as some one who has had many dogs, I know that if I went into the water for any reason at all, the dog would jump in with me thinking we were going to have fun... and even if this one didn't ( and he didn't because he was bone dry).. the river has been searched by experts and they say she's not in the water...
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I've had several dogs (including my current one) who wouldn't go in the water no matter what the situation.

That said, this story sounds like an abduction or intentional disappearance rather than accidental drowning.
 
StarSong said:
I've had several dogs (including my current one) who wouldn't go in the water no matter what the situation.

That said, this story sounds like an abduction or intentional disappearance rather than accidental drowning.
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but there are photos of the same dog, playing happily in that same stream, blowing any theory that he might have needed saving... and it's only 3 feet of water incidentally...further to that he was bone dry, there was no eveidence he'd been in the water. if my daughter or I.. fell or tripped into the water, our dogs would run straight in thinking it was a game.. so even if she HAD fallen in and been swept away the dog was used to her playing ball with him in the stream so he would have run in to play, but he was Dry .. experts say his coat hadn't got weat at all that day
 
hollydolly said:
but there are photos of the same dog, playing happily in that same stream, blowing any theory that he might have needed saving... and it's only 3 feet of water incidentally...further to that he was bone dry, there was no eveidence he'd been in the water. if my daughter or I.. fell or tripped into the water, our dogs would run straight in thinking it was a game.. so even if she HAD fallen in and been swept away the dog was used to her playing ball with him in the stream so he would have run in to play, but he was Dry .. experts say his coat hadn't got weat at all that day
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So much for that theory. I agree with your earlier post then. The dogs I've had who like the water have gone in at the slightest urging - and often with no urging whatsoever. Seems likely that if she'd gone in the river he would have also.
 
I remember there was one disappearance where the child, at the end of the situation, had been killed by the ones who were pleading her return. That was somewhere in England.

I'm worried for this lady that her situation might be the same. Very worried, hopeful wee bit but the concerned sometimes are the guilty party.

Goddess us, let's hope we're wrong and that she'll be found alive soon!
 
Maybe I am a bit thick but I am more confused than ever. So she is a 'high risk person'. I guess this may mean she was very depressed?
There are so many riddles in this case. The police might be best to stay quiet or say something useful and clear.
 
I don't know why the police are being criticised, the family must have sanctioned the release of information such as alcohol being a problem for her.
As to the wider picture, surely the public cannot help being interested and conjecturing? We are all mystified as to how a woman can disappear into thin air.
 
hollydolly said:
yes it's very odd pehnomena.. I keep hoping she's just walked away from her life, and is too scared to come back now after all the major hunt for her, but I fear that actually she;s been abducted. How else could it be explained that her phone was still connected to a work conference and on lying on the bench..

For everyone outside the UK , who doesn't know the story...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ivers-loggerheads-happened-Nicola-Bulley.html
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If she did wish to escape from her life and is hiding somewhere, she may never want to be found considering the huge amount of attention. She would be very frightened. I wonder at why so many people are going to the area and acting like amateur detectives. It is disturbing.

180,000 people go missing each year in the UK. Each one no doubt has a sad or tragic story. Why has this case attracted so much attention?
 
The case of Nicola Bulley was eagerly discussed in a German forum also. At 1450 comments the thread was closed by a moderator to prevent rampant speculation. But we have a similar case here. A 39 year old women, pregnant at 8 months, living near Nuremberg, disappeared without any lead in December 2022. The police even searched 15 kilometres of the nearby Main-Danube-Canal without success. Meanwhile there a such wild speculations in public that the police got angry.

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Capt Lightning said:
The Mary Celeste (I'm so glad that you got the name correct) didn't disappear - but the crew did. I've often wondered just how easy it would be to disappear in this age of mass surveillance .
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That the entire crew disappeared is more intriguing than if the entire ship had disappeared. :unsure:
Re the OP: I had never heard of this case before. I find it interesting that two threads involving people named Nicola were posted on SF around the same time. First time I've seen that name too. Well, if the mystery gets solved, I'm sure you'll let us know.

@Rose65 I'm surprised to read the number of missing persons in the U.K. The U.S. numbers are worse. This article was published in March 2022 for 2021 statistics. Some young people are assumed to be runaways (especially those of color) are their missing status is not taken seriously by law enforcement, so these numbers probably don't consider those cases).
https://www.statista.com/statistics/240387/number-of-missing-persons-files-in-the-us-by-age/
 

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