Not a conspiracy theorist, however..

Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed

Be what you is not what you what you ain’t
Location
Central NY
Not a conspiracy theorist but there are questions in life that don’t add-up.
i calimed to be a christian based on upbrining, lack of exposure to any other type of belief system. I question the validity of faith and reality. It is said among believers that Jesus was sacrificed so believers can have communion with the father. Why do Christian’s praise Jesus for his love when there is no evidence of his to be had?

There is no evidence that faith-based religions produce the promises and solisitation asked for by humans. I think prayer is something other than religious duties of organized religions. It has nothing to do with religion, prayer is a time to reflect, restore balance and ground yourself in the moment. I view this as communicating with life and whatever is managing all that is or god.

Most of my life I have tried to conform to church religion, preacher religion, organized religion to realize none of these religious variants work for me and was led to believe it was my fault for thinking differently.

When I post something of this nature on SF, members have told me to get over it and reprimanded my actions out of disgust for my thoughts and words. I am sorting things in my attic and writing them down helps me take out the trash.
 

I feel somewhat as you do, Mr. Ed. I have studied formal Christianity, and read a lot about Judaism, and Buddhism. As a young man I went to a Christian based college where we were required to take a certain number of hours of religious study. So that is where I had formal study of religions.

I consider myself a Christian, although many Christians would tell me I am not a Christian. I don't belong to or attend church. I have not been baptized. I have read much of the bible and other religious books. Yet, I consider myself a Christian, I accept Jesus Christ as my savior and know my soul will be ok when I die. This acceptance alone is why I believe I am a Christian. I have only come to this conclusion in my old age, it took lots of study, and soul searching. But I do believe.
 
Questioning what is written in a bible isn't for everyone. For those with blind faith, comfort seems to be the answer.

Explaining why you feel the way you do may just be the catalyst for others to question how things can be.
While in the hospital for my last surgery I asked these questions to the Christian bible carrying person that visited me.
When & how did God become God.
When God flooded the earth & killed all but Noah & his family do you think that could be classified as premediated murder?
Since formal bible taught religion wasn't around during prehistoric times would mankind be eligible to go to heaven?
Since God flooded the earth & only Noah & his family were left to repopulate the earth why would the all knowing God not know that birth defects would result from inbreeding?
 
Parental issues and negligence play a valid part to lack of happiness received from Christianinty. Much like the expected love and respect from my father.
It is near Christmas which is why my stuff is surfacing in my thoughts and emotions. I’d rather tuck them away in a distant brain not to be resurrected again. I understand the contributing factors of who I am and I don’t see, given the circumstances that conditioned me into the man I am today.
On that note spiritual and physical abandonment makes one screwed-up rock star who failed the audition.
 
It's not a coincidence that if you're born in the US, you're likely to be Christian. If you're born in India, you're far more likely to be Hindu. Which illustrates it's mostly s social construct. I was brought up Christian myself, being born in the UK.

Faith is a word we use to describe something that's unexplainable. God has never spoken to me. He's never visited, and never answered a prayer. No God ever has. Conclusion, I was howling in the night to empty air.

I read stories of fanatical religious factions in the middle east, but people fail to recognize the US is headed the same way, it's just a different religion. I think religion has been the ultimate control mechanism for people. There's no better way to brainwash people. It's all about control.
 
Spiritual is one thing, religion is another. To be spiritual is to become aware of a
"greater good" and to acknowledge that there is a higher world - that the earth is
a lower world through which our lower energy was attracted. Religion is man
made in the earth plane of consciousness. The goal is to raise our consciousness
through faith and application. Love is the key and love goes far beyond the grave.

Karma comes into most any "religion" and is the great "leveler" of our thoughts
and deeds. Grace comes into play when we become aware of the higher world.

The daily choice is ours. The challenge with explaining it is that the person has
to become aware of all the choices - of the greater good - and experience this
revelation in order to both realize and have all the moving parts of the puzzle
called life. Its not just a cradle to grave issue in a 3 dimensional lower world.
 
The hook and bait of Christianity paints a picture Jesus, son of god who came to earth as a man to suffer and endure the pain of humanity to die and be born again not as a man but as the son of god. This tidy little scenario is bought under the guise of eternal and everlasting life, none of which I care to be a part of.
I don’t know about death or an afterlife when my time ends. We all have an idea about life because we are alive. It is more appealing to accept Christianity and live eternal than the unknown aspects of death.

I wish I could have come to this earlier in my life. Oh well, at least I know that I don’t know because has not happened yet. I am aware of time spent in concern and worry of a life I disagreed with but did not have the wisdom to oppose it.
 
Because I lived in a variety of foster homes as a child, I was exposed to a variety of Christian religions. I decided in my teens that I wanted to be a Catholic because I very much wanted to "belong" somewhere. I was already becoming disillusioned by my early 20"s and rejected Catholicism, but did not associate myself with any other religious entity. It took almost to my 40's for me to finally admit to myself that I did not believe in any religion. In essence, I became an atheist and developed a very negative opinion of all religions.
 
VaughanJB said:
It's not a coincidence that if you're born in the US, you're likely to be Christian. If you're born in India, you're far more likely to be Hindu. Which illustrates it's mostly s social construct. I was brought up Christian myself, being born in the UK.

Faith is a word we use to describe something that's unexplainable. God has never spoken to me. He's never visited, and never answered a prayer. No God ever has. Conclusion, I was howling in the night to empty air.

I read stories of fanatical religious factions in the middle east, but people fail to recognize the US is headed the same way, it's just a different religion. I think religion has been the ultimate control mechanism for people. There's no better way to brainwash people. It's all about control.
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After a lifetime of questions about formal religion I agree. It is mind control, wealth attainment and preservation of the status quo. :(
 
chic said:
After a lifetime of questions about formal religion I agree. It is mind control, wealth attainment and preservation of the status quo. :(
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"Formal religion" or religious organizations are man-made, and as we know- man-made organizations of all types are by nature corrupt. As such, they become a force unto themselves and are concerned with mind control, wealth attainment and preservation of the status quo.
 
The question is flawed.

We are forever asking, "How could a God allow so much suffering in this world?" But we never ask the opposite...

"How could The Devil allow me to enjoy this beautiful sunset...or the birth of my child?"

Funny huh? We mostly only reach out to the Big Guy during times of strife.
 
At any rate, I don't give a Flyin Walenda what happens to me when I die. My brother took his own life almost two years ago...I'll be with him wherever he went in some new dimension I gather.
 
Mr. Ed said:
Not a conspiracy theorist but there are questions in life that don’t add-up.
i calimed to be a christian based on upbrining, lack of exposure to any other type of belief system. I question the validity of faith and reality. It is said among believers that Jesus was sacrificed so believers can have communion with the father. Why do Christian’s praise Jesus for his love when there is no evidence of his to be had?

There is no evidence that faith-based religions produce the promises and solisitation asked for by humans. I think prayer is something other than religious duties of organized religions. It has nothing to do with religion, prayer is a time to reflect, restore balance and ground yourself in the moment. I view this as communicating with life and whatever is managing all that is or god.

Most of my life I have tried to conform to church religion, preacher religion, organized religion to realize none of these religious variants work for me and was led to believe it was my fault for thinking differently.

When I post something of this nature on SF, members have told me to get over it and reprimanded my actions out of disgust for my thoughts and words. I am sorting things in my attic and writing them down helps me take out the trash.
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I was raised in Christianity. I started questioning religion at age 10 and gave it up around age 14. There's nothing wrong with questioning at any age. Some folks just don't seem to have the ability to believe in a god or gods. I tell folks I didn't get the god gene. My parents supported my questioning, and though I think my mom would've liked it if I was a believer, I just wasn't. Sometimes I think it would be nice to be a believer but I'm not capable of it. I've managed to live a full and mostly happy life regardless.
 
Nathan said:
"Formal religion" or religious organizations are man-made, and as we know- man-made organizations of all types are by nature corrupt. As such, they become a force unto themselves and are concerned with mind control, wealth attainment and preservation of the status quo.
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I don't know if you've ever seen the following, but it really made an impression on me when I first saw it. I had one of those 'light bulb' moments I think. At the same time, I do believe very much that this life is not all there is and that dying is actually going home from whence we came. I think my light bulb moment was more a realization of how pointless 'religion' is to humanity as a whole and how frequently it makes no difference to our behaviour.

I love this video and have watched it numerous times....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWPFmdAWRZ0
 
OlderThanDirt said:
I was raised in Christianity. I started questioning religion at age 10 and gave it up around age 14. There's nothing wrong with questioning at any age. Some folks just don't seem to have the ability to believe in a god or gods. I tell folks I didn't get the god gene. My parents supported my questioning, and though I think my mom would've liked it if I was a believer, I just wasn't. Sometimes I think it would be nice to be a believer but I'm not capable of it. I've managed to live a full and mostly happy life regardless.
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I'm not a believer in the God of Christianity, Judaism or Islam, but I believe that there is something far greater than us, that did bring our world into existence. We aren't 'accidental', nor does the 'something' care how we live our lives but just sets us up for the sake of experiencing this life in all it's myriad forms and ways.
 
Nathan said:
"Formal religion" or religious organizations are man-made, and as we know- man-made organizations of all types are by nature corrupt. As such, they become a force unto themselves and are concerned with mind control, wealth attainment and preservation of the status quo.
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Yeah, I don't hold much with organized religion

Jesus had a lot of trouble with the Sadducees, Rabbis, and Pharisees in His time

Just as corrupt as today

However
I do firmly believe in The Bible
It's proven itself to me
 
mrstime said:
I honestly don't know what I am, one minute I am an atheist, the next I don't know. What I see that turns me off is people who claim to follow Jesus Christ then use the old testament to hate so many others.
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That is a big turn off for me as well, and is what causes a lot of folks to consider themselves atheist...It makes me sad.

Jesus' ministry was about refuting Old Testament hate, he gave his life in the struggle to open people's eyes.
 

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