Now you can have your own underground shelter

Michael.

Michael.

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There's nothing new about predictions that the end of the world is upon us.

What began as a pipe dream for Ron Hubbard has become big business...underground

"I can't build them fast enough right now," he said. "It's better to have a shelter 10 years early than five minutes late."

But unlike those Cold War-era concrete bunkers with just the basics, these survival shelters come fully loaded.

"It's got everything a house does," Hubbard said. "It's just 20-feet underground. Luxury bedrooms, big screen TVs ,
game room, underground pool. You can have anything you want." He's even seen people put Jacuzzis in them.

Now we have to worry about biological attacks, chemical warfare, terrorist threats, economic crash, nuclear fallout, nuclear threats from Korea and China."

Like Robert Acosta, a Los Angeles businessman who's banking on his own $85,000 bunker. "You gotta take precautions and you gotta look out for your family for the future...just in case."

At worst, it's a very nice guest house. "Yes, it is," said Acosta. "When I have relatives that come visit, 'Sorry, I only have three rooms. We may have to put you in the bunker outside.'"

(It looks good but in will it work? How long will supplies last? The list goes on and on?)


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=nBcfYwU4rVs


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Very nice, but my one question is ... What about back-up power supply? That luxury shelter depends on too much electricity. .. I would rather rough it with just basics. .. In some kind of attack isn't it a good possibility you would lose all power? Just doesn't look like a practical option to me.
.. not that I personally would need to worry about any of that.
 
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Meh - it looks like one of those hamster tubes for humans.

But if the chick is included I'm sold. :love_heart:

And like Boo's Mom said, it looks far too luxurious to be taken seriously. The latches on the front door are a joke, the wood floors and throw rugs are unnecessary and the door from the bunk-room into the living area doesn't even have a handle. Electric fireplace? Leather couch?

I also didn't hear any power generation, water supply, wastewater, heating, air supply or insulation being spoken of ...


ETA: OK, here are at least some of the more important specs ... Atlas Survival Shelter - Features. I'd actually prefer one of those little log cabins they have at the bottom of the page ...
 
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Yeah, that's the ticket TG ... much closer to my reality in a total disaster!


And yes Phil, they sure are way off base with their $$$ bunker - maybe someone wealthy would think of that as 'basic' survival. Kinda comical really..
 
That's ridiculous!! Yes, what about back-up power - that thing is hardly back to basics. That Guy has a better idea; and if it gets that bad, well, I don't want to be around anyway. :rolleyes:
 
Small ones here are gaining popularity for short term shelter from bushfires. A family was saved by one a few years ago. It wasn't much more than old water tank buried into the side of a hill with a fireproof front on it but it was enough to protect them for the few minutes it took for the fire to pass. Their house and everything for miles was toast.

We don't do storm cellars here but I think anyone in a fire prone area should have a below ground shelter as a bolt hole.
So many die in cars trying to outrun fires, and others die trying to save their houses until it's too late and they have nowhere to go.

Can't see any value as a long term survival option in those big fancy coffins, but a fireproof one wouldn't need any gadgets to power, just some water to drink and enough air to last until the fire passes.
 
Diwundrin said:
Small ones here are gaining popularity for short term shelter from bushfires. A family was saved by one a few years ago. It wasn't much more than old water tank buried into the side of a hill with a fireproof front on it but it was enough to protect them for the few minutes it took for the fire to pass. Their house and everything for miles was toast.

We don't do storm cellars here but I think anyone in a fire prone area should have a below ground shelter as a bolt hole.
So many die in cars trying to outrun fires, and others die trying to save their houses until it's too late and they have nowhere to go.

Can't see any value as a long term survival option in those big fancy coffins, but a fireproof one wouldn't need any gadgets to power, just some water to drink and enough air to last until the fire passes.
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You should advertise your consulting services to our Western areas - California, Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Wyoming - they've had a horrible year with wildfires.
 
Yes I well remember seeing those on the News, not a great time being had anywhere really, even Greece has had them.

I think the speed of these eucalypt fires is the main worry, they catch people unawares. While they're fighting it in one place a hot leaf has started it a mile away and it skips across the treetops at windspeed, called crown fires, they leave most of the tree unburned but then embers drop down and catch in the dead undergrowth and keep burning at ground level as well. Hence so many fires at once, not connected but many originate from others.

If authorities evacuate too early people whinge but they daren't leave it too long either. A man I worked with was hosing down his back fence as the gully behind his house was smouldering a few hundred yards away. It caught and by the time he made it back up to the house the fence was alight.
That was in an inner Sydney 'leafy' suburb. He was lucky, he only lost the fence.

I have a bit of a thing about fires, gimme a flood anytime.
 
I'm just amazed at the mechanisms that allow such a rapid and massive spread. As a city boy my idea of a fire is ol' Lefty falling asleep on the couch and his crack pipe spilling a few hot embers on the soiled mattress, thus burning down a single house.

This stuff involving millions of acres and thousands of people is just a foreign concept to me. I appreciate your explanation of the crown fires - never knew that.

Another reason to move to Florida - there's water all over the place, handy when your marshmallows get too toasty.
 
The crown fires are the eucalyptus oil gases igniting. That's what makes the strange bluish haze we see on hot days, it's the trees 'sweating'. They just explode at the tops when an ember hits the gas. That usually only happens in extreme heat and strong winds, it's not always that bad.

It seems that chapparal over there does a similar gas thing, it just doesn't grow as tall as gum trees.

Florida sounds a good option, just don't go wading in murky water.
 
Diwundrin said:
The crown fires are the eucalyptus oil gases igniting. That's what makes the strange bluish haze we see on hot days, it's the trees 'sweating'. They just explode at the tops when an ember hits the gas. That usually only happens in extreme heat and strong winds, it's not always that bad.
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So along with the critters that bite, slash, chomp or just swallow you whole, the life-taking dust storms and giant mutant insects you also have sweating and exploding trees.

.... yeah, that makes sense.

And you guys want me to have $65k in my bank account before you allow me to move there? Riiiiiight ...
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Florida sounds a good option, just don't go wading in murky water.
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Well, does it help that I've always been a fan of Muddy Waters?
 
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