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LOL!

... and the elves are his "team" - Surreptitious Entry, Psy-Ops, Improvised Weapons, Reindeer Dosing Unit ...

It all makes sense now!
 

dbeyat45 said:
Yes. Water with an ice overcoat. :)
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To be honest, this whole North Pole thing is very confusing. It seems there are TWO of them, one of which is land-based in Iceland (?) and serves as Santa's mailing address; then there's the second one, which may or may not be sitting on an iceberg depending upon when you look.

Supposedly there are tours that visit the iceberg one, yet I've seen references that claim that the Pole is in the middle of a vast expanse of water.
 
Just water and a floating ice cap at the North Pole. Here's a piccy of one of a few submarines surfacing there back in 1959. The Russkies and US had a bit of a 'boomer' competition going at the time. Need I say more about the date??
Ice at the North Pole in 1958 and 1959 – not so thick

Posted on April 26, 2009 by Anthony Watts
What would NSIDC and our media make of a photo like this if released by the NAVY today? Would we see headlines like “NORTH POLE NOW OPEN WATER”? Or maybe “Global warming melts North Pole”? Perhaps we would. sensationalism is all the rage these days. If it melts it makes headlines.
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Skate (SSN-578), surfaced at the North Pole, 17 March 1959. Image from NAVSOURCE

There have been many series of years of very thin ice cover there for a few years at a time according to records stretching back centuries.



Here's the rest of the article about the sub. I remember being pretty impressed by it at the time so took a look and Google had it. Good ole' Google.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/
 
This will clear it up for you Phil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roq20IV4yP0

The geographic North Pole is currently well covered and the webcam is not much use at this time of year. ;)

Di, thanks for the reminiscences about the USS Skate. One of the surfacings was on 17 March 1959, when the ice should have been thinner.

The North Pole has always been a viable environment and the ice thickness and area varies significantly, year on year. There are some who would have us believe that the current state of the arctic is meaningful wrt climate change. There are others who know better. We just never hear from them because the media is always on the lookout for a good disaster story.
 
Hmmm ... so from dbeyat's video I get that the Russians are excellent pole-dancers :p, and from Davey's I get that the North Pole is indeed occasionally in a liquid state, but usually on at least a thin layer of ice.

Thanks for the education, guys! :D
 
You're welcome Phil .....

There is a lot more to the Arctic ice loss than meets the eye. Unlike Antarctica, there is no Arctic continent. The majority of the ice is floating and, if all the floating ice were to melt, there would be no noticeable rise in sea level. There are many factors to be considered when deciding what causes NH ice loss: Soot from NH coal-fired power plants and wildfires altering the albedo of the ice, ocean currents, ocean surface temperatures, Arctic gyres, arctic storms like the one in August 2012 which blew the ice away, Russian tourist icebreakers, etc.

There is particularly new about the Arctic losing ice; this year is looking healthier than for some time.
 
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