Nuclear Bomb Questions

Hello all. From how far away can you see a nuclear bomb go off? Like if one goes off in the state next to yours, will you see it?

Also will a nuclear bomb make the power and internet go off in the whole state or just the city that gets hit?

How far will the radiation travel? Will it travel to the next state?
 

I don't know how far away you can see it explode. but when the 1st atomic bomb exploded in 1945, a young blind girl who was riding in a car 20 miles away said she "saw " a flash of light.

As far as loss of power is concerned, it depends upon whether the power station(s) were hit by the electro-magnetic pulse. If L.A. was getting power from Hoover Dam (Nevada), and Hover Dam generators were knocked out, L.A. might easily have a temp brown out. Of course there could be a "domino effect" which could cripple large areas. Decades ago, a major power station in upstate N.Y. failed and because of the domino effect, NYC had a major blackout.
PS: solar flares can and do knock out power over a large region.

Radiation can travel quite far. Dust particles can absorb radiation and travel on the wind. The further the dust travels, the more settles back to earth. Thus, for example, if New York City was hit, the wind would likely spread radiation over the Atlantic Ocean , but by the time it reached Iceland, very little radiation would be left.
The best protection from radiation is to be in your basement. (Provided, the bomb did not go off very near you.) If you were not hit by the direct blast effect, your chances of survival are quite good.

If multiple cities were hit, however, the living would envy the dead. No power, no internet, lack of food and safe drinking water. hoarding and widespread violence would ensue. Gangs would roam the countryside and steal whatever you had saved up.
 
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I don't know how far away you can see it explode. but when the 1st atomic bomb exploded in 1945, a young blind girl who was riding in a car 20 miles away said she "saw " a flash of light.

As far as loss of power is concerned, it depends upon whether the power station(s) were hit by the electro-magnetic pulse. If L.A. was getting power from Hoover Dam (Nevada), and Hover Dam generators were knocked out, L.A. might easily have a temp brown out. Of course there could be a "domino effect" which could cripple large areas. Decades ago, a major power station in upstate N.Y. failed and because of the domino effect, NYC had a major blackout.
PS: solar flares can and do knock out power over a large region.

Radiation can travel quite far. Dust particles can absorb radiation and travel on the wind. The further the dust travels, the more settles back to earth. Thus, for example, if New York City was hit, the wind would likely spread radiation over the Atlantic Ocean , but by the time it reached Iceland, very little radiation would be left.
The best protection from radiation is to be in your basement. (Provided, the bomb did not go off very near you.) If you were not hit by the direct blast effect, your chances of survival are quite good.

If multiple cities were hit, however, the living would envy the dead. No power, no internet, lack of food and safe drinking water. hoarding and widespread violence would ensue. Gangs would roam the countryside and steal whatever you had saved up.
Oh I see. Thanks! Wow, I wonder if the girl was blinded from seeing the light?
 

Oh I see. Thanks! Wow, I wonder if the girl was blinded from seeing the light?
The perception of seeing a flash is caused by radiation passing through the brain. Astronauts have reported experiencing 'seeing' small flashes while in space. During the cold war, RAF bomber pilots were issued with eye patches which they wore when flying. If there was a nuclear blast, the flash would blind the uncovered eye, but they would still have one functioning eye protected by the patch.
 
This answer from Quora...

It depends on the yield. Generation 1 atomic bombs generally functioned by prompt critical mass and only yielded about 15–20kt. The atomic bombs dropped on japan produced mushroom clouds that were between 45k and 60k feet tall, and could be seen upwards of 200 to 250 miles away.

hydrogen bombs create much bigger booms, and much bigger fireballs. Where the fireballs of atomic bombs glow for only about 5–7 seconds and span an initial radius of about 30 meters, the fireballs of hydrogenated bombs may glow for upwards of 20–40 seconds before darkening and span upwards of 3km! The tsar bomba, the largest yielding nuclear weapon tested to date (50MT), had a fireball that rapidly expanded to over 8km in diameter, and the mushroom cloud rose to over 60km in height. For reference, the Karman line, the boundary defining the edge of space (or more accurately, the region at which an airfoil must travel at orbital velocity to generate lift,) is 100 km. The mushroom cloud extended over halfway to space! And, it was visible over 500 miles away.
 
Also will a nuclear bomb make the power and internet go off in the whole state or just the city that gets hit?
Likely the whole state. A 1.4mt nuclear bomb denotated at a height of 300 miles would likely and temporarily, knock out all of the U.S.

In 1962, Starfish Prime was detonated at 250 miles and knocked out hundreds of street lights in Hawaii... a distance of 750 miles. That was in the age of analog devices.
 
The perception of seeing a flash is caused by radiation passing through the brain. Astronauts have reported experiencing 'seeing' small flashes while in space. During the cold war, RAF bomber pilots were issued with eye patches which they wore when flying. If there was a nuclear blast, the flash would blind the uncovered eye, but they would still have one functioning eye protected by the patch.
Oh wow, that's interesting. I didn't know that was possible!
This answer from Quora...

It depends on the yield. Generation 1 atomic bombs generally functioned by prompt critical mass and only yielded about 15–20kt. The atomic bombs dropped on japan produced mushroom clouds that were between 45k and 60k feet tall, and could be seen upwards of 200 to 250 miles away.

hydrogen bombs create much bigger booms, and much bigger fireballs. Where the fireballs of atomic bombs glow for only about 5–7 seconds and span an initial radius of about 30 meters, the fireballs of hydrogenated bombs may glow for upwards of 20–40 seconds before darkening and span upwards of 3km! The tsar bomba, the largest yielding nuclear weapon tested to date (50MT), had a fireball that rapidly expanded to over 8km in diameter, and the mushroom cloud rose to over 60km in height. For reference, the Karman line, the boundary defining the edge of space (or more accurately, the region at which an airfoil must travel at orbital velocity to generate lift,) is 100 km. The mushroom cloud extended over halfway to space! And, it was visible over 500 miles away.
Oh I see thanks. Wow.

Worldwide. We still have elevated levels of some radioisotopes from the testing, detectable everywhere.
Oh I see. Yikes!
 
All I can tell ‘ya about the bomb is that if you cower under your desk as I practiced doing in school, the sturdy American craftsmanship will keep you perfectly safe from the nasty Russkies when they nuke you… 🙀

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was that age at that time in my life. NEVER had one of those drills or the ones where kids went into the halls and sat, lined up against the walls.

i wasn't much older when i realized those drills were a total exercise in futility. after 9/11, there was an anthrax thing happen in a big mail distribution center... relatively nearby... middle of NJ. people were buying up every roll of duct tape and plastic sheeting.

at that time, my sister had a place in mountains of WV. she told me to prepare for quick exit, if needed. food for dog, some bottled water... head west from NJ. if there were people renting that day/week, explain who you are... settle in and make new friends.

she was in Harrisburg, pa during 3 mile island. less than 150 miles from Philly area. people were told IF orders came down to evacuate, they wouldn't be able to take pets. she had neighborhood people trying to decide what they would do... people with farm animals had to ponder choices... set them loose and hope for the best... put then down.
 
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All I can tell ‘ya about the bomb is that if you cower under your desk as I practiced doing in school, the sturdy American craftsmanship will keep you perfectly safe from the nasty Russkies when they nuke you…
I remember that, at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis lived in Florida and we were sure it was just days away. We were too close to the Russian missiles. Fortunately we never got the chance to test those desks...

Radioactive fallout was deposited all over the world, so many people were exposed to it. Even today, radioactive fallout is present in all parts of the world in small amounts. CDC and NCI, in their study of global fallout, looked only at fallout in the contiguous United States (the 48 states between Canada and Mexico). The study found that any person living in the contiguous United States since 1951 has been exposed to some radioactive fallout, and all of a person’s organs and tissues have received some exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/fallout/rf-gwt_home.htm

Don't mean to suggest this is at a level we need to be worried about now, its not. However, it points out the risk of more nuclear detonations. This stuff is wide spread and doesn't go away quickly.
 
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This doesn't directly answer your question, but I found this conversation interesting.
I think he is wrong about fallout from hydrogen (fusion) bombs. There is still fallout, just not more than from the older fission bombs:

The fusion reaction doesn't really contribute to fallout, but because the reaction is triggered by fission and causes further fission, H-bombs generate at least as much fallout as atomic bombs.

https://www.thoughtco.com/hydrogen-bomb-vs-atomic-bomb-4126580#:~:text=A hydrogen bomb and an,trigger for a hydrogen bomb.
 
I think he is wrong about fallout from hydrogen (fusion) bombs. There is still fallout, just not more than from the older fission bombs:

The fusion reaction doesn't really contribute to fallout, but because the reaction is triggered by fission and causes further fission, H-bombs generate at least as much fallout as atomic bombs.

https://www.thoughtco.com/hydrogen-bomb-vs-atomic-bomb-4126580#:~:text=A hydrogen bomb and an,trigger for a hydrogen bomb.
He is mostly right. Tritium (Hydrogen-3) produced during ignition has radiation, but not to the extent to cause significant cancer increase in humans. The issue is the yield of the Hydrogen bomb, which is generally based on the introduction of fissionable material such as Uranium 238 to provide additional neutrons to enhance the detonation.

The U-238 is a heavy metal, which will fall quickly back to earth, depending on ejection from the center of the blast and wind speed and direction. That area will suck to live in for quite awhile.
 
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I was about 35 miles northwest of the blast. Was working for Weyerhaeuser at the time and one of our camps was wiped out by the flood when Spirit Lake disappeared. Funny thing was that my home was shielded by hills and I didn't even hear the Mt blow although they heard it in Yakima.
I was living in Portland, OR. and I watched Mt St Helens erupt from my deck. As the wind was moving northwest, no ash fell on Portland.
 
Picture included below if you don't want to explore the web site.

Not to be a buzzkill - but this is an informative site if you are curious.

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

It will show you the damage radii for any location with your choice of most any of the bombs in today's nuclear arsenal.

This is the picture for Kansas City, an airburst with a B-83, 1.2 Megaton bomb - the current largest in the US arsenal. On the site you can zoom in to get more detail.

The smallest circle is the fireball radius - everything in it is vaporized.
The next circle is moderate damage - most buildings collapse or suffer major damage.
The next one is the thermal radiation circle - 3rd degree burns to all exposed skin
The outermost circle is consider the "light damage" area - broken windows, flying debris etc.

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I was about 35 miles northwest of the blast. Was working for Weyerhaeuser at the time and one of our camps was wiped out by the flood when Spirit Lake disappeared. Funny thing was that my home was shielded by hills and I didn't even hear the Mt blow although they heard it in Yakima.
Our friend's cabin at Spirit Lake was blown clean away, and down the river, along with logs and debris....and vehicles

I was delivering a crawler up near Humptulips
Heard her blow
Thought someone was blasting stumps on the next mountain
Lived in Aberdeen at the time
Lotsa ash
 


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