NYC wants a 15 mph limit on e bikes and scooters to reduce accidents with pedestrians

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NYC wants a 15 mph limit on e bike and scooters to reduce accidents with pedestrians. A recent fatal incident triggered the proposal. Many places in Europe already have limits on e vehicles.

Mayor Adams proposes 15 mph speed limit for e-bikes and e-scooters

To me if it's a motorized vehicle they should be regulated like other motor vehicle including insurance and registration and a license that can be suspended if too many incidents/infractions from an e biker. They shouldn't be on sidewalks either.
 

Why would you establish a speed limit for e-bikes and e-scooters that is different than the speed limit for other vehicles? If e-bikes are too dangerous above 15 miles per hour, then what about gasoline powered bikes, scooters, and motorcycles? Or regular human powered bicycles?
 

Those e bikes are a terror. They go through red lights, they go on sidewalks; I hate & fear them. I agree they should be licensed and insured. Mostly immigrants, who are poor, rushing to make a delivery. The NYC Council always sides with the rider because they are poor immigrants. Always. So, I believe they block restrictions for that reason.

They ruin whatever quality life there is left in NYC.
 
Why would you establish a speed limit for e-bikes and e-scooters that is different than the speed limit for other vehicles? If e-bikes are too dangerous above 15 miles per hour, then what about gasoline powered bikes, scooters, and motorcycles? Or regular human powered bicycles?
Why? Because people riding e-bikes and e-scooters aren't required to be licensed, insured or helmeted, and there's no minimum age for riding them. The same rules should apply to electric and gasoline powered versions.

Riders tend to consider themselves both pedestrians (using sidewalks and crosswalks) and vehicles (straying into traffic lanes).
 
Those e bikes are a terror. They go through red lights, they go on sidewalks; I hate & fear them. I agree they should be licensed and insured. Mostly immigrants, who are poor, rushing to make a delivery. The NYC Council always sides with the rider because they are poor immigrants. Always. So, I believe they block restrictions for that reason.

They ruin whatever quality life there is left in NYC.
That's the answer right there - not special speed limits! While they're at it... age regulate who can ride any motorized vehicle.
 
We have them in the bike path too. One passed me yesterday, must have been going at least 35mph. It was an enormous ebike with a very large person on it. Sure it could kill or maim someone. They are allowed on the path, even though it is posted “no motorized vehicles.”
 
Do you have this problem in L.A.? @StarSong
We do. I also see it in campgrounds. Speed limits for vehicles is 5-7 MPH, but motorized bikes and scooters zip around, not bothering to follow the rules.

I'll add a personal observation that may be unpopular, but is nevertheless true. A LOT of people on these vehicles (children, teens and adults) are seriously overweight. Pedaling a bicycle or pushing/gliding on a scooter is still faster and easier than walking and also provides a bit of exercise.
 
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Around here no one enforces the rules. These rentals are popular. You must be 16, only one rider on a scooter and wear a helmet. Rules don’t mean a thing.

Even mobility scooters are dangerous.

I don’t know why riders presume we have eyes in the back of our head. Ring a bell or call out. I was wiped out by a kid on a regular bike a few years ago. Ouch.
 
Even mobility scooters are dangerous.
Absolutely true. They often barrel through grocery stores with the operators giving no thought of whether a shopper is around a corner. A few years back someone ran over my foot. Not even an apology...

Cruises are even worse. So many using scooters at top speed, with operators often demanding the right of way.
 
Absolutely true. They often barrel through grocery stores with the operators giving no thought of whether a shopper is around a corner. A few years back someone ran over my foot. Not even an apology...

Cruises are even worse. So many using scooters at top speed, with operators often demanding the right of way.
In my early years after I passed my Bar exam and character background check, I was hired by a personal injury law firm, which wasn’t my cup of tea, but we all have to start somewhere, I was assigned a case of a woman that was run into by another woman operating an electrical wheelchair. Her claim was she hit the wrong control.

The main attorney that owned the firm told me that it was a good case for me to begin my career on, but not to use a lot of time trying to win this case because judges are known to toss these types of case. However, in this case, my client suffered a broken ankle, which became infected and landed the woman in the hospital and she had missed almost 4 months of work. There was a lowball offer to settle, but my client laughed at it, so we went to court.

I found a similar case that was tried and then appealed to the Louisiana Appellate Court and they sent the case back to the state court because the Appellate Court didn’t think the state court took into consideration the amount of damages the client paid out of pocket. It was an almost identical case.

In the new trial, my client won payment for cost of care and damages, loss of wages and punitive damages. Loss of Consortium was also awarded to the husband. I think there was an additional award, but that was too many years ago to remember. My boss was amazed and told me I would be a great litigator someday. I took his opinion with a grain of salt.
 
And yeah, if these e-bikes and scooters are basically motorized, it makes sense to have rules like insurance, registration, and licenses. Keeping them off sidewalks too would help keep pedestrians safer
 


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