Obama spends millions to prevent gun violence

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Gun Sales Skyrocket on Black Friday


Gun sellers had a huge Black Friday according to the FBI, which said requests for background checks were coming in at three per second.
More than 144,000 background checks will need to be performed after the the Friday sales, CNN reported Friday. The three-requests-per-second number is three times the daily average. Some 600 FBI and contract call center employees now must work 17-hour workdays to complete the background checks in three business days, as required by law, FBI spokesman Stephen Fischer said.
"Traditionally, Black Friday is one of our busiest days for transaction volume," Fischer told CNN.
On average, more than 500 gun background checks a day fail because of incomplete information required for a decision, according to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which is responsible for checks on firearm purchases from federally licensed shops.
"We are averaging three checks per second," he said. "The challenge is to have staff keep up with this volume. We do that by limiting personal leave, asking employees to work extra shifts and re-utilizing former ... employees to serve in NICS during this busy period."

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President Obama's bill will help with this.
 

the majority of Americans do NOT want gun control. including women who are arming to the teeth

Women and Guns: Why Female Gun Ownership Is Rising and Why Many Are Taking Notice

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[h=1]Poll: Majority of Americans support gun control, assault weapons ban[/h]A majority of Americans support strong, new gun control measures—including the assault weapons bans and broader background checks, according to a new ABC/Washington Post poll released Tuesday. The findings found broader support for gun control in the wake of the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., with 52% of people saying they supported further gun restrictions since the shooting.
Since the shooting that claimed the lives of 26 in Sandy Hook Elementary School, there have been cracks in the NRA’s strength, with voices like Sen. Joe Manchin and Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough calling for gun control. Many have skewered the National Rifle Association for supporting assault weapons and limited background checks—something Scarborough says is a move to protect gun manufacturers, not Americans.

The NRA has responded by slamming the White House, claiming the administration is prejudiced against “honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans” and blaming them “for the acts of criminals and madmen.” And many have questioned whether further gun control could pass in Congress.

The broadest support in the poll, however, came for mandatory background checks to purchase firearms at gun shows—88% of Americans polled said they supported that measure. Of those surveyed, 58% said they supported the expired assault weapons ban, while 39% opposed it.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/15/poll-majority-of-americans-support-gun-control-assault-weapons-ban/
 

Your figures are typically incorrect again but no surprise as they come from nbc. Current poll by Pew? Shows 62% favoring no more controls, but both cbs and nbc didn't, carry this story as it doesn't fit there agenda. A this week poll by pbs showed 95% against any more controls. Also crime and murder rates are down. Please get current you make it to easy.
Neither you or any one else can even define the term assault rifle, so please don,t use it assuming people know what you mean.

currently 80 - 100 k people in Conn. and Maryland alone not counting Colo and Wash. Are in civil disobience by not registering their magazines and rifles. The sheriffs of Washington and Colorado counties have publicly stated they will not enforce the law.
23 state AGs have filed suit against gov. Duomo,of New York that his Safe Act is unconstitutional. Is the majority you are talking about?
all gun shows who rent tables require 4733 forms and back round checks. They cannot do anything about people outside the building. This registration you are talking about is to stop gun shows completely. It would also require gun owners like myself to do a check if I gave a gun to my kid or sold a trap gun to a friend I have known for years, it ain't gonna happen.
because of the draconian attempts made br Reid,a Holder,Obama the Nra has never been stronger because of a grass roots movement by regular people. And before you stick your foot in your mouth, the Nra does not do the gun lobby. It is a group called the sportsman alliance. ILA side of the NRA does coordinate legal battles against cases that clearly violate the 2nd ammendment.
 
you want gun control?? so did they. and they got it

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"Polls show that the majority want gun control". The latest polls show that the mood of the majority is once again swinging away from stricter gun control....and these polls swing up and down, depending upon how long it has been since some lunatic went nuts and killed a bunch of innocents. The answer is NOT passing more gun control laws, but rather Enforcing the hundreds of laws already on the books. Passing more laws is Surely nothing but some "Feel Good" nonsense that does little other than give even more government bureaucrats something to waste taxpayer dollars on.

A far more effective approach would be to identify and treat the mentally ill that are responsible for these horrific acts.
 
Well, after all the assault gun and pro gun gibberage.........THERE WILL NOW BE MORE GUN CONTROL AND MORE MONEY FOR GUN CONTROL TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE.......like it or not.....I really could care less.


One reason for higher gun sales....FEAR.

And as QS just said....I'm not going down this road with you again, so just rave on and take your AK47 to bed with you.
 
Don M. said:
"Polls show that the majority want gun control". The latest polls show that the mood of the majority is once again swinging away from stricter gun control....and these polls swing up and down, depending upon how long it has been since some lunatic went nuts and killed a bunch of innocents. The answer is NOT passing more gun control laws, but rather Enforcing the hundreds of laws already on the books. Passing more laws is Surely nothing but some "Feel Good" nonsense that does little other than give even more government bureaucrats something to waste taxpayer dollars on.

A far more effective approach would be to identify and treat the mentally ill that are responsible for these horrific acts.
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A far more effective approach would be to identify and treat the mentally ill that are responsible for these horrific acts.
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I agree. any ideas??
 
"I agree...any ideas"?
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Yes...we need to do a far better job of identifying and treating the Mentally Ill. Merely subscribing some Mind Altering drug...which they may or may not take, and sending them back onto the streets, certainly isn't working.

Insofar as all these polls, and the cries for more gun control from the anti gun crowd...there is a solution for that, also. Give them a years free residency in the core areas of any of our major cities...like Chicago, and Camden, N.J. Perhaps a years exposure to Reality will give them some idea of what the majority of the gun violence issues are.
 
But speaking of the mental health angle, this is why the current surgeon general was chosen. As a puppet for the administration he will try to get to get gun violence labeled as a national health problem. This will open the doors for the antis to circumvent the current laws and establish a national registry of gun owners instead of a registry of gun serial numbers. This data base will be open to any marketing, insurance, car dealer and any one else. This confiscation process without due process is already going on in Commufornia and is the next step. It is a good thing that the voters of Colo. became aware of Bloombergs attempt at buying their state politicians and were voted out in the last election.
Sorry but there won't be more gun control, you are delusional. I've watched this thing since the 70s and it has actually gotten better. After the Clinton era lies were debunked and the statistics would not support their claims antis started loosing real ground.
 
If any Washington Administration wanted to start a 2nd American Revolution, registering lawful gun owners and/or making any attempt to confiscate firearms from them would insure such an event. Many states, including mine, have already held recent votes affirming the 2nd Amendment. This past Fall such a measure passed here by a 60% majority of the voters. People forget that the original reason for the passage of the 2nd Amendment was to give citizens the ability to defend themselves against a corrupted government. With every passing election, that need appears to be more and more a real possibility. Anyone who has any knowledge of history should be aware of what has happened in the past when the populace has been disarmed....Hitler and Stalin come quickly to mind.
 
When a gun is purchased a BATF form is filled out. This form contains all the information, are you a criminal, are you held mentally incompetent etc. all the wishes of the antis. This and the purchasers ID are them called to the state agency which checks their records and then inquires to the FBI about federal warrants. All information must be destroyed within 24 Hours to protect the privacy of the buyer. This has been a thorn in the side of antis since it's passage 20 years ago. Their goal is to have all information not destroyed but put into a central data base. What about all the guns that are out there that have not been entered? They think the good honest citizens are going to then register those under the common name of the person. It ain't gonna happen.
obama did not put this money out for gun violence, it was part of the budget which he was literally forced to sign this time around. Talk about political posturing.
Missouri has joined the 44 states that already acknowledge concealed carry, and also the 20 some odd states whose constitution and laws call for the arrest of any federal officers breaking the constitution. Congradulations on becoming one of the free states.
 
These politicians always have to come up with something to keep their "base" happy. It's too bad they can't spend their time doing something that is actually beneficial. There are already so many unregistered firearms in the nation that even the best efforts would only find a fraction of them....unless the gun owner voluntarily came in. You KNOW that the thugs would ignore any such laws...just the same as they do most other laws.
 
Just a point of clarification. actually all firearms are registered already in the US. They were done so when they left the factory. It is the transfers that are not. There is a form 4733 somewhere for every gun out there. I have had 3 guns stolen and it was these forms that allowed my property to be returned. And the thugs never filled any forms.
 
I think it's fair to remember to distinguish between "gun control" and "banning gun". You want to play with guns? Come to Arizona where no permit is required to carry a concealed weapon. We have probably the least restrictive gun laws in America. Not a day goes by without gun deaths in Phoenix. This is the real wild west.
 
Gun control is being able to hit your target.
But the term fear was brought up as a reason why guns are acquired. Although that is reason enough, I think more are purchased by the fear of violation of second ammendment rights. Gun control freaks use fear in almost every breath. Those "assault rifles" are going into every household. The gun violence must stop (guess other violence doesn,t bother them). Yadda yadda.
 

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