Oldest people, Healthiest, Getting worse, declining health because of diet of u.s.fast food.

I have mentioned on SF before that on my way to exercise any morning of the week, the drive-thru at a McDonald's have two lanes stacked deep. It is easier to buy prepared breakfasts than to utilize one's kitchen for something fresher and heathier.

Fruit, oatmeal, whole grain toast (cheese toast is my favorite), eggs, yogurt... all much quicker than a drive through lane and less expensive as well.
 

Covid has shown us that the typical Western diet and its resulting obesity has a terrible impact on the immune system. But we're not seeing many PSAs about that from health related alphabet agencies. There should be a massive campaigns from the top agencies and media about all the dangers of obesity but there aren't. Instead, Western culture seems more worried about "fat shaming" than promoting health.
 

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We used to stop at a McDonald's about once a month...when running around. We like their Senior Coffee (used to be 50 cents), and their sausage and egg McMuffin has always been one of our favorite "snacks". However, since this pandemic hit, most don't have any indoor seating, and the drive-thru lanes are usually crowded, so that, along with their doubling of prices, has resulted in our stops there being few and far between.
 
My mother owned a business and worked like a dog full time. I remember she closed the shop late on Fridays, so it would be about 8:00 pm when she wrapped it up. So, occasionally we'd go out for pizza afterwards. Most Friday evenings, my dad would make her spaghetti with clam sauce when she got home.

Even though my mom worked, I almost always had a homemade lunch to take to school. That was fine because I disliked the cafeteria food. She also made a daily lunch for my dad to take to work. Rarely would I buy a school lunch, that was only when Mom was really pressed for time.

When I was working, I packed my own lunch, beverages, and snacks for work. Most people I knew would not only buy takeout for lunch, but also buy breakfast in some form or other, and beverages and snacks throughout the day. Some of them would look at me like I was strange because I carried a small cooler with me to work every day. Fine. Y'all go ahead and spend your hard-earned money on junk, and I'll save my hard-earned money by making and eating my own food. I also packed breakfast and lunch for my husband. He had an hour and twenty-minute commute to work. Sitting down to breakfast takes too much time, so I'd make him breakfast-to-go. Most days, a couple of hard-boiled eggs, an English muffin, bagel, or toast and fruit in a flat container that he could reach into easily and a travel mug of coffee. Occasionally he'd buy lunch at the cafeteria, and it always gave him heartburn. There wasn't a day that went by that he didn't thank me for my effort. I always told him it was my pleasure. 🙂

I never liked fast food. Not only that, I can't even remember the last time I ate it. If I'm out and about and I can't wait to eat until I get home, which is extremely rare, I'll stop into a deli or grocery store and grab a piece of fruit or cheese or even a bag of organic potato chips before I stop for fast food.

Preparing my own meals ensures that I'm eating healthy and I know exactly what ingredients are in my food. That's not to say I never eat out, occasionally I do, but I'm selective as to where I go.

Bella ✌️
 
How much of it starts because so many mothers work and haven't got time to cook proper meals? There is a lot to be said for the traditional way of life with mums looking after the home and children.
Or back in traditional days did people have the same access to FF? As a full time, working mom, both while single and married, I made sure there was always a proper meal every night. It’s the attitude of the cook, not whether they work or not.

A lot of the reason for fast food popularity apart from being high in salt and sugar.. is the laziness of so many people who can't be bothered to cook...
Exactly. We have the same queues for FF out to the roads. Then I’ll read people complaining on FB how long the waits are for their morning coffee. I mentally scream at them to prep the pot the night before, push the button and the coffee will be ready by the time they’re dressed to leave. And stop whining that you don’t have enough money because Tim’s or McD’s is charging more.

I like your approach @Bella. We are what we eat.
 
It would be interesting to see a study on how healthy the home made meals from my childhood really were, I'd think those Wonder Bread/mayo/questionable-lunchmeat wouldn't exactly win an award for nutrition. Tuna noodle casserole made with Campbell's mushroom soup, is that really very good eating? But we did at least have vegetables, especially in the summer from the garden.
 
Serious question-- do antacids make your insides brown?
Serious Serious Serious - yes, and much worse also - they lead to not only death of the intestine health, but then to many problems / illnesses/ in other parts of the body including the brain.

By reducing acid in the stomach too low to digest food properly, the food goes into the intestine undigested and becomes a playground for trouble.

ALso, antacids are almost never needed, ever, by anyone. The things that actually help, are not recommended by doctors unless outside of pharmakeia control. i.e. maybe yes, something might be needed to relieve discomfort or pain, but it is not antacids except in very very rare cases once in a while. Even a glass of distilled water, or a couple digestive enzymes, or a spoonful of acv in distilled water or juice or coffee can relieve discomfort or pain within minutes , or prevent it ever from happening if taken before and /or during a meal.
 
Covid has shown us that the typical Western diet and its resulting obesity has a terrible impact on the immune system. But we're not seeing many PSAs about that from health related alphabet agencies. There should be a massive campaigns from the top agencies and media about all the dangers of obesity but there isn't. Instead, Western culture seems more worried about "fat shaming" than promoting health.
The hundreds or thousands of warnings about the "typical Western diet"

began around 1948-1958. The doctors, licensed AMA doctors warned. The nutritionists warned. (Adelle Davis). The healing practitioners all warned individually or publicly. The successful healers warned, and they were all blacklisted by the ama, fda and cdc.
If the successful healers had been listened to by enough of the people, no one would have given the fake pandemic a second look at all - everyone trained right called it ridiculous and recognized it as the one world reset by fraud and deception.
 
Or back in traditional days did people have the same access to FF?
An eternity ago, when I was a child, riding in the back seat of a car going with relatives to a family event,
we passed one of the first mcdees in the country. I very distinctly remember thinking " I hope that (fast food) does not catch on". Sadly, very sadly, it did catch on, and the health of all the people involved with it from sales and prep to service and also even more everyone buying and eating it or giving it to their kids/ family/ friends /whoever declined immediately and continually over the years.
In Chinea same thing happened - when fast food started there, within a few months the doctors started seeing a greater number of heart diseases, then diabetes, and more as time went by.
"Access" to FF is not a blessing, nor healthy, for anyone.
 
Serious Serious Serious - yes, and much worse also - they lead to not only death of the intestine health, but then to many problems / illnesses/ in other parts of the body including the brain.

By reducing acid in the stomach too low to digest food properly, the food goes into the intestine undigested and becomes a playground for trouble.

ALso, antacids are almost never needed, ever, by anyone. The things that actually help, are not recommended by doctors unless outside of pharmakeia control. i.e. maybe yes, something might be needed to relieve discomfort or pain, but it is not antacids except in very very rare cases once in a while. Even a glass of distilled water, or a couple digestive enzymes, or a spoonful of acv in distilled water or juice or coffee can relieve discomfort or pain within minutes , or prevent it ever from happening if taken before and /or during a meal.

Especially proton pump inhibitors like Aciphex, Nexium, Prevacid, Prilosec, Protonix ...several more in that drug class that I can't think of off the top of my head. Proton pump inhibitors freaked me out when they first began to be pushed on us (remember the "purple pill" commercials :rolleyes: ). As a dietitian, I knew at that time that shutting down stomach acid production was not! a good idea and that was before we knew anything much about gut microbiome health ...now we do know, they horrify me. Additionally, they're not meant for long-term use according to prescribing information (PI) provided by their manufacturers but a lot of people have been taking them for years. Long term use is associated with osteoporosis, Clostridium difficile infection (a gawd awful gut bug), drug induced lupus to name a few.

If you can possibly avoid these, do. Some people have a horrible time with rebound acid production when trying to wean off them.
 
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Covid has shown us that the typical Western diet and its resulting obesity has a terrible impact on the immune system. But we're not seeing many PSAs about that from health related alphabet agencies. There should be a massive campaigns from the top agencies and media about all the dangers of obesity but there aren't. Instead, Western culture seems more worried about "fat shaming" than promoting health.
absolutely .....
since one of the last data points I read on covid .......showed 78% death/ hospitalizations were obese you would think that would wake everyone up.
cooking with all the things like food network and you tube instructions etc .......it is very easy to learn to cook.... and many many kids can even cook
Moms ( or parents) too busy/ do not know how to cook ......... is IMO an outdated excuse for eating fast food all the time....

I wonder what we are doing with all the time we "saved" .....
by having basic errands like banking on phones or automatic other things then food shopped for by others and delivered ..... even working from home ..but no time left to cook ?
 
absolutely .....
since one of the last data points I read on covid .......showed 78% death/ hospitalizations were obese you would think that would wake everyone up.
cooking with all the things like food network and you tube instructions etc .......it is very easy to learn to cook.... and many many kids can even cook
Moms ( or parents) too busy/ do not know how to cook ......... is IMO an outdated excuse for eating fast food all the time....

I wonder what we are doing with all the time we "saved" .....
by having basic errands like banking on phones or automatic other things then food shopped for by others and delivered ..... even working from home ..but no time left to cook ?

Working in healthcare in a state with a high Covid morbidity rate, I can only think of one fit, slim woman in her 40s who died of Covid--don't know her full medical history though. Of all the other deaths I know of here who were not elderly, all were overweight or obese. On the other hand, one of my close friend's mom (86 YO with Type II diabetes that she's controlled for years with healthy diet, exercise, healthy weight) didn't even get it though she lives with her daughter and SIL ...both of whom are obese and had bad cases.
 
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has been for a long time .... however because pointing out the Obvious is considered not PC .....
I don't disagree with you, but I do remember when Michelle Obama tried to implement healthy school lunches, better food labeling and more activity for children and received lots of pushback. Was she considered PC?
 
An eternity ago, when I was a child, riding in the back seat of a car going with relatives to a family event,
we passed one of the first mcdees in the country. I very distinctly remember thinking " I hope that (fast food) does not catch on". Sadly, very sadly, it did catch on, and the health of all the people involved with it from sales and prep to service and also even more everyone buying and eating it or giving it to their kids/ family/ friends /whoever declined immediately and continually over the years.
In Chinea same thing happened - when fast food started there, within a few months the doctors started seeing a greater number of heart diseases, then diabetes, and more as time went by.
"Access" to FF is not a blessing, nor healthy, for anyone.
My dad insisted on home cooked meals at our house. As a result, my mother was a great cook. I'm glad now.
 
An eternity ago, when I was a child, riding in the back seat of a car going with relatives to a family event,
we passed one of the first mcdees in the country. I very distinctly remember thinking " I hope that (fast food) does not catch on". Sadly, very sadly, it did catch on, and the health of all the people involved with it from sales and prep to service and also even more everyone buying and eating it or giving it to their kids/ family/ friends /whoever declined immediately and continually over the years.
In Chinea same thing happened - when fast food started there, within a few months the doctors started seeing a greater number of heart diseases, then diabetes, and more as time went by.
"Access" to FF is not a blessing, nor healthy, for anyone.
while easy to blame Fast food and the restaurant business as well........ lets chalk this up to another educational letdown as well....

https://www.healthyway.com/content/how-did-the-government-get-the-food-pyramid-so-terribly-wrong/
"Nowadays, though, we know that the food pyramid is not only misinformed, but that following its prescriptions can actually be harmful and contribute to an unhealthy diet."
How exactly did the government get something so crucial to the everyday life of the American people so wrong?"

McDonalds seems to be the poster child but in reality what other businesses are blamed for PERSONAL choices .......
Are breweries or distillers blamed for alcoholics.....?

it is easy to see why some people have been sold false information for decades .........
the so called food pyramid by government is NOT accurate ....
anyone SELLING a diet or "lifestyle" can rather eloquently go on about why ( insert philosophy here) is better or healthier.
Labels are generally not read .... and do not reflect portion sizes as well .......labels say this much per serving but their serving size is no where near reality of what is consumed.
Example studies have shown California's effort to put calorie count on menus had no measurable effect ..... in getting folks to make better choices.
We have INFORMATION at our fingertips about calories and nutrition more then ever .......more apps to track your intake ............if it was only facts that solved it we should have a small problem not the large one we have.

We have contests and challenges to eat enormous portions........... for money and entertainment. whole shows dedicated to this.
we ignore how much sugar and calories people are drinking
with some frothy whipped creme Starbucks drinks hovering around 1200 calories that is most of a whole days intake.
 
Serious Serious Serious - yes, and much worse also - they lead to not only death of the intestine health, but then to many problems / illnesses/ in other parts of the body including the brain.

By reducing acid in the stomach too low to digest food properly, the food goes into the intestine undigested and becomes a playground for trouble.

ALso, antacids are almost never needed, ever, by anyone. The things that actually help, are not recommended by doctors unless outside of pharmakeia control. i.e. maybe yes, something might be needed to relieve discomfort or pain, but it is not antacids except in very very rare cases once in a while. Even a glass of distilled water, or a couple digestive enzymes, or a spoonful of acv in distilled water or juice or coffee can relieve discomfort or pain within minutes , or prevent it ever from happening if taken before and /or during a meal.
Thanks Jeff! I've been taking Omeprazole for over a year and I've just decided to wean myself off of it.
 
{shrug} we all gotta go sooner or later. I'll have a Big Mac and large fries, please.

Oh, and diet coke. Counting calories, ya know.
Don't you think it would be nice if more people discovered how to live healthy, especially in case they would still live forty more years in pain and discomfort because of druglords, with extra diseases and problems instead of fewer or none ?
And from an opposite view,
if the drugs are pain causing directly, and nausea and dizziness and hair loss and weakness,
but someone is actually only going to live three years or less, and the drugs won't improve that, why take them at all then ?

i.e. hope to live pain free, at least not allowing nor causing extra daily pain needlessly because of doctors and pharmakeia.
 
I can only think of one fit, slim woman in her 40s who died of Covid--don't know her full medical history though.
Did she fall off a ladder , breaking her neck ?
A man who did , was called a "covid" death and made the news nationwide.
"Covid" on a death certificate does not mean covid caused it, nor even that they had covid, in many if not most cases.
Doctors were paid, and hospitals were paid, a lot more money for calling it covid, no matter what the real reason or cause for the death.
 
Nope. It was Covid but I don't know if she had other issues such as diabetes etc.
Prove it was covid. It usually is not. Hardly ever. Same thing happened with sars 'epidemic' years ago, I think. Other things caused the deaths.
 
Did she fall off a ladder , breaking her neck ?
A man who did , was called a "covid" death and made the news nationwide.
"Covid" on a death certificate does not mean covid caused it, nor even that they had covid, in many if not most cases.
Doctors were paid, and hospitals were paid, a lot more money for calling it covid, no matter what the real reason or cause for the death.
This has corrupted the data and we will never have a clear picture because of it....
professors trying to study use other countries data and one professor said " US data is so messed up it is worthless for future study"
paying anyone an incentive creates creative protocols to reap any cash....

In my state we had a young man shot in the head (was DOA ) in a street fight......... but was listed as a covid death.
 


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