What do you think of getting a bachelor and even master degree without even leaving your house. Only time to show up at college is if you want to walk down the aisle and receive a degree in person instead of having it mailed to you. These are state public non-profit colleges that have regular campus and classes. Is it for college to make more money without outlay of more staff or buildings?
Online degrees vs attending classes
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Robusta
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Both of my daughters took many of their degree classes online or mostly online. Anything that will allow more people to get a degree are good.
Hopefully the days of only the elite being able to afford higher education is coming to an end. For to many years higher education has been a legacy thing with children of college graduates being way more likely to afford higher education,creating a division in society.
I’m in total agreement. With today’s modern technology why not take advantage it?
No it’s not ideal but it will suite some peoples lifestyles perfectly.
ClassicRockr
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Just as long as companies that are hiring will acknowledge the degree. I'm pretty sure some won't, but the person being interviewed will not know this. A company generally doesn't tell a prospective employee why they weren't considered for a job applied for.
Getting any degree online is definitely not the same as getting one in a classroom. Basically, if a person can't afford to actually go to a college or university, the other choices would be to either not pursue a degree or get one online.
I took a couple of online courses, each costing about $100 and printed out a Certificate of Completion from an accredited school. The management I interviewed with weren't the slightest interested in the online classes. I had to mention the classes and the certificate to them and all they said was "yes, I see that" (saying that sort of sarcastically to me). No other comment was made by them concerning the classes.
There are even some movies that joke about getting a degree online.
Getting any degree online is definitely not the same as getting one in a classroom. Basically, if a person can't afford to actually go to a college or university, the other choices would be to either not pursue a degree or get one online.
I took a couple of online courses, each costing about $100 and printed out a Certificate of Completion from an accredited school. The management I interviewed with weren't the slightest interested in the online classes. I had to mention the classes and the certificate to them and all they said was "yes, I see that" (saying that sort of sarcastically to me). No other comment was made by them concerning the classes.
There are even some movies that joke about getting a degree online.
I DO know that one can get individual credits via online classes. They are the same credits you’d get at a college or university but I do understand what you mean. One has to be careful for sure. If in doubt, do your research first.
Lord knows I was as "poor as a church mouse" in the late 60s/early 70s when I went to college. Full time tuition at Big State University was $100 per quarter. Not exactly "elite" prices. Those who were willing to do what it took, made it thru. Those who didn't, made excuses.
Go Bucks.
ClassicRockr
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My wife got a school loan to get her Bachelors Degree. Don't know, financially, how she got both of her AA degrees, but she got them. She got her Bachelors in 1997 and, as of when we met in early 2000, she was still paying off the school loan she got. All paid off today.
As for me, other than those two classes I posted about, I used my GI Bill to go to college. It was a Jr. College and I found out very fast that I wasn't cut out to go to college. Didn't even finish a semester. Actually I really wish that I would've stayed in and at least got an AA. That sure would have helped my job search, but that all in the past now.
I wanted to get certified with APICS (American Production Control and Inventory Society), but the cost was enormous. Also wanted to get certified in Purchasing, as in getting a CPM (Certified Purchasing Manager), be couldn't afford that either. So, the only thing I could use is my previous experience, which, for a few jobs, worked out fine. My last Director/Supervisor was happily shocked when I knew what the abbreviations on his name badge were..........APICS Certified and CPM
As for me, other than those two classes I posted about, I used my GI Bill to go to college. It was a Jr. College and I found out very fast that I wasn't cut out to go to college. Didn't even finish a semester. Actually I really wish that I would've stayed in and at least got an AA. That sure would have helped my job search, but that all in the past now.
I wanted to get certified with APICS (American Production Control and Inventory Society), but the cost was enormous. Also wanted to get certified in Purchasing, as in getting a CPM (Certified Purchasing Manager), be couldn't afford that either. So, the only thing I could use is my previous experience, which, for a few jobs, worked out fine. My last Director/Supervisor was happily shocked when I knew what the abbreviations on his name badge were..........APICS Certified and CPM
I took some courses online through the University of Phoenix, which is the second largest university in the U.S. My company fully accepted the courses that I took and paid all but a few bucks for each class that I took and passed with at least a 3.0. If a student finished with a 2.0, they paid less and they paid zip for anything below that. Plus, if I did really well, my company would reward me with either a small bonus or an increase in pay. I found it to actually be fun. I also found that the student has to be really into wanting to do it and then not cheat, which is easier to do than it is if the student was in a classroom environment.
I highly recommend it for someone who needs to work full-time to help the family. If I was a young guy just out of high school, I would still "go" to college. I wouldn't want to miss that experience.
I highly recommend it for someone who needs to work full-time to help the family. If I was a young guy just out of high school, I would still "go" to college. I wouldn't want to miss that experience.
ClassicRockr
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The company my last Director/Supervisor worked for, before the one where he hired me, paid totally for his certifications. So, not only did he have the certifications, he also had a Bachelors Degree in Business Management. Even though him and I had a few "differences in opinions" on certain things, I learned a lot from him during the 4 1/2 years I worked for him. I actually helped him set up the new Materials Dept. and warehouse.
ClassicRockr
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Mine was the “open book” kind. Some were “find the answer and match with one of three answers given” and “find the answer and then fill in the blank”.
Before I went back for my MBA & CPA, I was APICS certified and I don't remember it being costly at all. This was late 70s/early 80s. I guess my employer paid for it.
I do remember teaching a class for the local APICS chapter.
ClassicRockr
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Actually, I think I was much better at being a Purchasing Assistant, Jr. Buyer and working in Inventory Management than anything else.
Another thing, some employers don't want a Degreed person, because they don't want to pay the salary a Degreed person would want and require.
My wife went for her Bachelors in Business w/an emphasis on Accounting, because she knew the salary would be better than just an Accountant without a Degree. Turned out that she was right. She didn't want to be a CPA, because of all the hours she have to work. She worked enough hours as an AR/AP Accountant, Financial Analyst and a Senior Accountant.
As far as taking any kind of online classes today, no. One thing for sure, it wouldn't help me find a job.........that is, if I was to ever want another one.
Another thing, some employers don't want a Degreed person, because they don't want to pay the salary a Degreed person would want and require.
My wife went for her Bachelors in Business w/an emphasis on Accounting, because she knew the salary would be better than just an Accountant without a Degree. Turned out that she was right. She didn't want to be a CPA, because of all the hours she have to work. She worked enough hours as an AR/AP Accountant, Financial Analyst and a Senior Accountant.
As far as taking any kind of online classes today, no. One thing for sure, it wouldn't help me find a job.........that is, if I was to ever want another one.
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Back in the 80's, the "diploma mills" were churning out degrees. For $1000 or less and a month or less of your time, you could have a four-year degree from some made-up university. The university wasn't accredited by any recognizable organization, but what the heck, you had a degree.
For some companies, that was all they needed. I had a friend who was going to lose his job unless he had a four-year degree, so he went that route. His boss absolutely knew the degree was bogus, but he wanted to keep my friend in his job and that was all it took to satisfy the company requirements. Another friend got a four-year degree from a questionable university in South Africa in one week. All she had to do was take a "test", pay $850, and was awarded a degree based on "life experience".
Most of today's on-line degrees are legit, thank goodness. I suppose there are still some diploma mills out there, but I think companies are a lot more selective in which degrees they will accept for employment.
For some companies, that was all they needed. I had a friend who was going to lose his job unless he had a four-year degree, so he went that route. His boss absolutely knew the degree was bogus, but he wanted to keep my friend in his job and that was all it took to satisfy the company requirements. Another friend got a four-year degree from a questionable university in South Africa in one week. All she had to do was take a "test", pay $850, and was awarded a degree based on "life experience".
Most of today's on-line degrees are legit, thank goodness. I suppose there are still some diploma mills out there, but I think companies are a lot more selective in which degrees they will accept for employment.
Victor
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Having taught online college classes at a community college, I know that most students do not finish the courses
and most do not get their degrees. Especially if the course is difficult and even when they are able and
encouraged to visit their professors for help. (Most students in classrooms also do not graduate.)
Students are expected to be very self disciplined, highly motivated, intelligent and have sufficient time
for all the work. The same amount work is usually required of online students and class students.
I have also taught students who meet for only 10 minutes a week with me and the drop out rate is very
high. Many students say that they wished they had taken it in class.
Despite the poor performances, college deans and administrators promote and encourage online classes
as much as they can because they save large amounts of money and classes take no space, no overhead.
Less faculty are needed for these classes because they are so easy to "teach" with less work for professors.
So basically, part-time faculty members lose money and/or jobs and students frequently get a lower quality course.
It's about the money!! The learning process is second to the money.
and most do not get their degrees. Especially if the course is difficult and even when they are able and
encouraged to visit their professors for help. (Most students in classrooms also do not graduate.)
Students are expected to be very self disciplined, highly motivated, intelligent and have sufficient time
for all the work. The same amount work is usually required of online students and class students.
I have also taught students who meet for only 10 minutes a week with me and the drop out rate is very
high. Many students say that they wished they had taken it in class.
Despite the poor performances, college deans and administrators promote and encourage online classes
as much as they can because they save large amounts of money and classes take no space, no overhead.
Less faculty are needed for these classes because they are so easy to "teach" with less work for professors.
So basically, part-time faculty members lose money and/or jobs and students frequently get a lower quality course.
It's about the money!! The learning process is second to the money.
