Oregon Could Be 1st State to Make Health Care a Human Right

Michael Z said:
Even as a conservative, I will admit this is one bit of socialism that we could use in the US. Yeah, it would cost a bit, but there are plenty of other less-essential government programs that could be cut or trimmed to help pay for it.
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2 huge problems with government programs is that they're extremely vulnerable to corruption, and the government doesn't seem to know how to create effective, well-administered programs. As with all essential USA gov't programs, universal healthcare would result in poor health care; it would put a choke-hold on medical advancement, it'd be underfunded, restrictions would shoot through the roof, there'd be far too little over-sight, and it would become a political tool....the usual crap.
 

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Don M. said:
There are several web sites which rank the various nations healthcare systems.....The WHO, etc. Here is one that gives quite a bit of detail.

https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/

This site says France ranks #1, and the US comes in at # 37. This is pretty much the consensus on all the sites.
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Thanks, Don, but that rates whole healthcare systems, not specifically quality of care. For example, Norway and Sweden ranked lowest for "care process". Plus, this data was published by an organization called International Citizens Insurance, which I've never heard of, and I can't find where it named any sources (yet). It's questionable, imo.

But I'll look around.
 
Tish said:
I hope it passes, although your real battle is with the Pharmaceutical companies.
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Insurance companies also keep costs up. imo, the real battle is legislators who accept perks from big pharm and major insurance companies and create legislation and regulations that greatly limit the research and growth of companies that pose a threat to the biggies.

I haven't really looked into this - Oregon proposing to make healthcare a human right - so I don't understand what it even means. Our rights are listed in the Bill of Rights, a federal document, and Oregon's talking about a state-level decision, so I don't get it. Are they just trying to kick something off; start a movement?

Like someone else said, it's not really going to change anything. It has the potential to pit Oregon against the federal Supreme Court at some point, but otherwise, imo, it's a waste of time and money for Oregonians.
 
Nobody dreams of getting old and sickly. But it's going to happen. And if we want to live to be old, we'll need health care throughout our lives. The problem of universal health care is who pays, and how much. Without adequate funding, good health care still belongs to those, who can pay.
 
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