Pack of 60 Teenagers Swarm Train in Oakland. Commit Strong Arm Robberies

Wayne said:
Does anyone ever take notice to where most of these things happen, areas where citizens are not permitted to defend themselves from violent crimes almost every time and areas where LTC applies how much less often you see the same as this.
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You got that right buddy gun free zones are the best places to attack and it's been proven over and over again.
 

Correct in all accounts there, and of you wish to see the root of the real problem, when instances as this happen:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/educat...n-martin-a-posthumous-honorary-degree/2322757

but the anti crowd rarely ever address the problem just wish to place blame away from it. The school is saying a lot about it really, they are promoting illegal drug usage, illegal possession of firearms, crime, assault, robbery. Not where I would want my family to attend.
Notice how Travon's Facebook page was quietly removes showing drugs, guns and money from his lifestyle. Then to add insult to the country the president invited hos family to the Whitehouse. All of which is where the real problem lies. Another Democratic failure.
 
If every one of those 60 youths had to spend one week in jail they might think twice about it next time. And I mean without anyone being allowed to bail them out. And I'm not talking about Juvenile Detention Hall, I'll talking about city JAIL. Criminals can get away with quite a bit today. If you have parents with $ you have a good chance of getting bailed out so you can go do it again.
 

Wayne said:
Could you just imagine if that was in mid America Texas Oklahoma etc where people can actually defend themselves
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For Sure. Were such a band of thugs ever to invade this rural area, in central Missouri, the thousands of deer hunters would quickly "erase" the problem. Large sections of most of our major cities are becoming little more than zones of anarchy, where the Real authority lies in the hands of the street and drug gangs. Chicago, for example, is already on track to set a new yearly record for homicides....but, the good news there is that most of the "victims" are rival gang members. If I knew for sure that they would only use the weapons on each other, I would donate a couple of firearms to the "cause".
 
oldman said:
It's a good thing that I wasn't on-board one of those trains. I carry a .25 ACP pistol loaded with hollow points. They may have gotten a surprise when I reached into my pocket.
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That may be so but like Pappy pointed out...you'd be outnumbered by 59. With those odds, you might still wind up being hurt or killed unless your shot startles and scares them off (doubtful with their numbers). I was not mad at Bernard Goetz when he shot those thugs in the NYC subway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting
A very real problem with this kind of thing besides the crime itself is that there are bound to be copy cats. I just watched an episode on Blue Bloods (from season 1) about a gang that terrorized and robbed subway riders. The gang was not nearly as large though.
 
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