Paranoia: the new disease?

metasegue said:
... Bill and Melinda Gates are among the richest world citizens. I call them that because they act like it. Their foundation has poured billions into Africa trying to eliminate malaria. As a side effect, they've drastically improved the lives of millions through education, clean water, and access to solar electrical power. If that's a representation of the "New World Order"...I'm all for it.
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On February 16, 2008, the New York Times reported on a memo that it had obtained, written by Dr. Arata Kochi, head of the World Health Organization’s malaria programs, to WHO’s director general. Because the Gates Foundation was funding almost everyone studying malaria, Dr. Arata complained, the cornerstone of scientific research—independent review—was falling apart.

Many of the world’s leading malaria scientists are now “locked up in a ‘cartel’ with their own research funding being linked to those of others within the group,” Dr. Kochi wrote. Because “each has a vested interest to safeguard the work of the others,” he wrote, getting independent reviews of research proposals “is becoming increasingly difficult.”


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The director of global health at Gates responded predictably: “We encourage a lot of external review.” But a lot of external review does not solve the problem, which is structural. It warps the work of most philanthropies to some degree but is exponentially dangerous in the case of the Gates Foundation.
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Gates' domestic educational donations have also proven to be practically useless - there is no evidence of improvement in the programs he funds.

I think the last true example of altruistic donation by a mega-wealthy person was when Michael Jackson invited inner-city and sick children to enjoy his Neverland ranch for free.
 

"The director of global health at Gates responded predictably: “We encourage a lot of external review.” But a lot of external review does not solve the problem, which is structural. It warps the work of most philanthropies to some degree but is exponentially dangerous in the case of the Gates Foundation. "

Yeah, predictable....and reasonable. They don't like interference....so?


QuickSilver: the cat and I had the same look when we saw the Eyre article. Well said.
 
QuickSilver said:
Excuse me... You all DO realize that Eyre International is a well known far Right Fringe Conspiracy site...and the New World Order a favorite fringe conspiracy. Don't you? Just looking at the pictures should tell you what it is. ... Of course.. if you are Far Right Wing.. this might make perfect sense...
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Labelling people 'far right fringe, conspiracy nuts, etc., is a tactic that is well recognized as a method to be used to shut down discussion. But it only works on people who care. In my opinion, anyone who is open minded enough to consider the possibility that a conspiracy is behind an event is someone who is skeptical of the drivel that politicians and those in authority would have the sheep believe. Better to be a skeptic than a sheep.
 

The HIV/Aids virus has recently been proved by RNA analysis to have originated in Kinshasa in 1920's where it was first found in humans, and spread from there, mainly by railway builders and travellers, until it reached more general populations.

One of the reasons it started spreading faster in 60's and 70's was because some African governments denied that it was happening; therefore it spread faster, with a few mutations.

Ebola has also been around since 70's but most outbreaks tended to be in isolated villages, so tended to die out naturally.
this latest outbreak has spread to very populated; often very poor cities, so is proving much more difficult to contain.
 
Vivjen, I know I'm showing my ignorance again, but if I don't ask, I'll not know.
Why can't Africa contain the diseases in it's own boundaries? This has been an issue for more than a hundred years. Are they that poor? They look like they have many natural resources.
 
They are usually that poor, Ina.
places like Nigeria have great oil wealth, and are large; but have corruption to match.

The countries where Ebola is at the moment usually have incomes of under $1 a day, are small, and usually a weak government , or have had dreadful civil wars in the very recent past.
people then flock to the cities, live in slums, and any disease can spread.
dysentsry, malaria and other horrors are rife, and are not usually even mentioned.
often, these wars, diseases etc are only mentioned when any of them start threatening the west in some way; why should we worry; we can cure malaria easily?

Horrible generalisations there; but I am sure you get the gist of how I see it...
 
Ebola has been in Western Africa since Feb this year..a child was apparently bitten by a bat...

We only kick off when it may be arriving here..
 
Depressingly enough, Ina; that is the way it seems to me too...there are times when I am so glad that I can't see the future..
 
I listen to the news once a day unless something unusual is happening! I do what I can to live a good life and up to my beleifs. I contact my senator if I think my contact will make a difference , I pray about what is bothering me. I vote my concious. And I spread the alarm if there is immenent danger to my friends and family. (Not neccessairly in that order). I try to beleive the best in people and am shocked when they disappoint me. Support good causes, and prepare as best I can should the worse case scenario happen. Am aware of my surrondings. Aware-not fearful. I don't let paranoia bother me. What more can any of us do?
 
The Ebola outbreak might get Rand Paul elected. He's the Tea Party backed and Libertarian oriented Republican Senator from Kentucky and the probable front runner in any Republican presidential primary. He's been groomed by his father Ron Paul... an obstetrician and former U.S. Rep. from Texas. His son is also a doctor/politician clever enough to play dumb and smart enough to be savvy. His stance is quasi isolationist. In foreign affairs, he represents an America tired of being an uncompensated (and unappreciated) world cop. He stands for order over chaos in the cities. He has bipartisan support in Congress. By 2016: if the Ebola outbreak is still a threat, the urban protests continue, and our so called allies won't put boots on the ground to combat ISIS...he could ride it all to the White House.

I feel a bit ambivalent regarding the scenario. It's kind of scary, but also exciting, to think that a President could actually function in Washington. Guess I'll have to wait and see what Hillary has to say. A lot can happen in the next two years and much of that could result from what happens next month in the mid terms. My political position has shifted toward the center from the left. Might just have to give him a shot.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I wouldn't call it paranoia in America, but there is distrust and feelings of insecurity when people become aware of what has been happening for so many years, even before the disinformation given about the murder of JFK. The main stream media tells you nothing, you have to dig around for the other side of the story. That was harder to do before the internet, so perhaps folks were more in a secure little bubble.
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May well be far far far worse than paranoia , many places. Even with internet, people have not sought the truth and rather have accepted the lies of gov, med, and media, being totally deceived.
 
Ruthanne said:
I don't agree. I have sought the truth. Everyone has their own interpretation of the truth that keeps them going.
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Why don't you agree ? Just because you have sought the truth, means nothing about anybody nor everybody else .

The fact now and for the last fifty years and more is that most people do not care for the truth, they reject it, and do not look for truth , do not love the truth, at all.
 
Just Jeff said:
Why don't you agree ? Just because you have sought the truth, means nothing about anybody nor everybody else .

The fact now and for the last fifty years and more is that most people do not care for the truth, they reject it, and do not look for truth , do not love the truth, at all.
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Because many do and did look for the truth which you poo-pood.
 
Ruthanne said:
Because many do and did look for the truth which you poo-pood.
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Quote me .

If someone looks for the truth, to experience it, to know it, to live truthfully and loves the truth, that is good for them and for everyone else as well.

I don't think there was ever a time in the usa when most of the people looked for the truth.

They instead believed what they were taught as a baby, and as a young child, and so on, without realizing the difference between what they were told and what is real and true.
 
Just Jeff said:
Quote me .

If someone looks for the truth, to experience it, to know it, to live truthfully and loves the truth, that is good for them and for everyone else as well.

I don't think there was ever a time in the usa when most of the people looked for the truth.

They instead believed what they were taught as a baby, and as a young child, and so on, without realizing the difference between what they were told and what is real and true.
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I think it's true for some not to question but equally true for many others to question things, myself being one of them.

I wonder and question everything. I spend lots of time researching and thinking independently.
 
Ruthanne said:
I think it's true for some not to question but equally true for many others to question things, myself being one of them.

I wonder and question everything. I spend lots of time researching and thinking independently.
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It is good that you spend the time researching and thinking independently, always seeking the truth.

Did you ever on purpose or even just happen to ask a lot or many people why they kept doing something wrong ?

I asked and may ask a lot of people questions to see why they are doing something, right or wrong, good or bad.

Most of them replied apathetically - saying and showing they did not want to "make waves" with family, group, or at work , even if something terribly and obviously wrong was being done daily = they often did not want to know it, to talk about it, to discuss it, and may be worst of all - if they knew it was wrong, and admitted it, but still would not change because it would cost them too much - they wanted the acceptance of others who were in their lives even though wrong, more than to have integrity and not harm anyone else on purpose ever. They would even "go along" with what was wrong, and declare it was right, and encourage others to join them , sadly to their detriment.
 
Nope! I sure don't have any of that para whatever your talking about. I'm traveling Canada right now and don't care much for media really. Actually, cut my cable 22 years ago and don't miss the darn stuff. I think you folks get this "para" thing from living in the city. As I travel, I meet a lot of nice people in smaller towns and they are living good lives. Don't believe the media. They are out to scare "the willies" out of you. Life is short! Get moving. Shut the "idiot box" and live your life while you got it.
 
SifuPhil said:
Gates' domestic educational donations have also proven to be practically useless - there is no evidence of improvement in the programs he funds.
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It may well be that
there is no evidence of overall system improvement concerning anything today, for years.
 
Ruthanne said:
I think it's true for some not to question but equally true for many others to question things, myself being one of them.
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If enough people had questioned religion for two thousand years, if they were seeking truth,
religion would not have ruined their lives and most of society.
 

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