People and the way we think fascinates me

Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed

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Criminal minds, the way they think. Do they experience joy and happiness as does the general population of people?
I believe in the law of attraction and karma if an act of violence is committed according to the law of attraction and karma will violence repeat itself in the same way as performing a good deed for another person?

People who take shortcuts in life as opposed to earning their way where is the joy of accomplishment?
 

Mr. Ed said:
Criminal minds, the way they think. Do they experience joy and happiness as does the general population of people?
I believe in the law of attraction and karma if an act of violence is committed according to the law of attraction and karma will violence repeat itself in the same way as performing a good deed for another person?

People who take shortcuts in life as opposed to earning their way where is the joy of accomplishment?
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The people who take shortcuts are the ones rewarded for their greatness so they have their joy. Those of us who work for it don't get squat except the knowledge we did what was necessary to do a good job.

I think Karma comes back on criminals like it would anyone else.
 
Leaving out the karma part, that's a very interesting question about criminal minds.

If by criminal minds you mean sociopaths, my answer would be "that depends." Probably some of them do experience joy and happiness like all the rest of us. Probably some are so twisted that they cannot. They are either flat emotionally, or even worse, experience joy from other people's suffering. I have a feeling that the answer is complicated.

About the people taking shortcuts, I doubt that they are losing much sleep over missing out on "the joy of accomplishment." And let's be honest, wouldn't most of us take advantage of a shortcut if it was legal and ethical, and was made available to us? If you were born to a billionaire family, would you turn down their offer of paying your college tuition, because you wanted the joy of accomplishment that comes from taking menial jobs all through college so you could pay for it yourself?
 

You can't make it through college by working menial jobs like you could several decades ago. The cost of housing is far higher now, as is the cost of tuition. So going to college, for a lot of people, also means going deep into debt.

On the other hand, if you don't have any skills, you're going to be living in poverty -- even if you're working full time. Or if you have trouble learning or other problems, you're going to have problems...

I have to go eat lunch now. :)
 
Irwin said:
You can't make it through college by working menial jobs like you could several decades ago. The cost of housing is far higher now, as is the cost of tuition. So going to college, for a lot of people, also means going deep into debt.

On the other hand, if you don't have any skills, you're going to be living in poverty -- even if you're working full time. Or if you have trouble learning or other problems, you're going to have problems...

I have to go eat lunch now. :)
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Was this post meant for another thread? Can't at all relate it to how criminal minds think...
 
We are each unique critters. We believe that we were all born with this imprinted ethical code in our brains, and we're not. We see the world in similar ways, but with a lot of wiggle room. Some may find a wallet and think, "it's finders, keepers", while others may not. And both groups feeling very justified in their thinking. We assume that our actions are for the "greater good". Unfortunately, what is considered the "greater good" can be altered to mean anything. The Aztecs ripped the hearts out of prisoners , so the greater good of appeasing the sun god would ensure food, instead of starvation. The "greater good' may be just to put food on ones own table. I assume those, who are "criminals' have the same mentality.
 
Some people don't seem to have any conscience. They commit horrific crimes but always find a way to justify it...or they think, 'this is me, it's what I do'.
 
I've been told by a man whose son slipped into criminality and ended up in jail, that when he asked his son why he'd behaved as he did, the boy said it was "a bit like being sucked up in a whirlpool", and he felt he couldn't get out of it, (or was too weak), once he'd started to go down that road.

I used to do a bit of prison visiting twenty years ago, and met absolutely fascinating people, not all bad by any means. Some told me more all less everyone in their family was either in jail, or had been in jail, and you certainly felt very very lucky your home life never presented such rough/hard choices, or you'd never have survived it :confused::(,
 
Irwin said:
You can't make it through college by working menial jobs like you could several decades ago. The cost of housing is far higher now, as is the cost of tuition. So going to college, for a lot of people, also means going deep into debt.

On the other hand, if you don't have any skills, you're going to be living in poverty -- even if you're working full time. Or if you have trouble learning or other problems, you're going to have problems...

I have to go eat lunch now. :)
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Since you mentioned lunch, I am curious to know what you had for lunch? Did you enjoy it?
 
Irwin said:
You can't make it through college by working menial jobs like you could several decades ago. The cost of housing is far higher now, as is the cost of tuition. So going to college, for a lot of people, also means going deep into debt.

On the other hand, if you don't have any skills, you're going to be living in poverty -- even if you're working full time. Or if you have trouble learning or other problems, you're going to have problems...
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Thanks, @Sunny. See now where it answers the last bit of the OP.

The price of four year college doesn't justify shortcuts that aren't based on accomplishment. Community Colleges more than ever bridge the gap. A cousin did two years at a Community College, finished his degree at a small, state four year college, then completed a pharmacy degree. He aggressively paid off pharmacy school loans, then went to medical school where he competed for and won a national semester long advanced student fellowship. After finishing medical school, he did an internal medicine residency and was Chief Resident his final year ...also a competitive position. Next he aggressively paid off med school loans by working appx 60 hours a week as a hospitalist. After that, did a fellowship in cardiology and lived frugally on the stipend. Now he's sitting pretty financially and it all started with community college which didn't hamper a bit his ability to excel along the way.

My brother only did a two year associates degree in ag computer systems and has worked his way up to six figures.

So the cost of traditional college doesn't justify the need for ethically ambiguous shortcuts.
 

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