Playing on the Stock Market?

Debby

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To get away from the heavy political stuff, has anyone here ever tried day trading the stock market?

I've been reading and learning about the stock market and trading and stuff for about the past 8 or 9 months, played with a practise account thru my bank, and I'm at the point where I've developed a system that over time, might just work real well. Two days ago, I told my husband about a uranium company stock that I thought looked right for a rise so he bought that. 500 shares.....and then the darn thing dropped in price!!! What a pain. But today, he sold them all and we came out $500.00 ahead! I felt so vindicated after that drop the minute we bought it. But it was just a day too early and it paid off.

So has anyone ever done this and did you day trade or swing trade?
 

Yes, I did. Have you considered trading options?? Some people do quite well with that. :eek:
 

I day traded for years. Never day traded options. I had a friend that did and he would trade in the thousands, or tens of thousands of dollars for a single trade. On occasion, I would buy some puts and calls, but not the volume that my friend would buy. I did do some short trading, which is always fun, but a bit nerve racking. You really have had to do your homework before doing this type of trading.

This last correction we just went through was a prime buying opportunity for short sellers and long term investors. I went against what the stock gurus always say, "Never buy a stock on the way down," but during a correction, most all of the stocks are on the way down, so when I buy a well known company that has had a good history of earnings, I feel comfortable with doing so. For example, I bought Intel last summer at $27 or $28 and sold it in January for I think $33. That is about a 25% gain. For me, that's good.

What was the name of the uranium company that you bought? My favorite was always Rio Tinto, which I did buy just this past January. I will hold long on this stock.
 
Yes, I did. Have you considered trading options?? Some people do quite well with that. :eek:

My husband has done that a bit and was quite successful for a time. I think his interest waned a bit because we got involved in building this house and overall, too much stress and since then he hasn't really picked it up again. So chic, did you previously work in the investment industry or what is your background and did you 'day trade' or have some other sort of system?

I was reading about day trading but I think my indecisive personality wouldn't be suited to that. Making decisions fast has never been a strong ability in me which is why I think trading over a period of a few days (where I can take my time and think about things a little more) seems to be working for me better. I love the practise accounts you can set up with some banks because it gives you the chance to see what will happen with your 'ideas'. If it was real money I'd have collapsed in tears at some of the mistakes that I've made, but over time, I've developed a better understanding of the cycles and movement of the various stocks.

Probably the biggest problem that I've had (besides not understanding and making some stupid decisions) is that our internet is so friggin slow and stalls continuously. Day trading in our current location would be absolutely impossible because of that. Just on the verge of wanting to put a sell order in and the internet stalls and the minutes tick by and the price is changing and &%$**)#@&&&&&&. But we're moving to where we'll have high speed internet so it'll be lots better on that score.
 
I day traded for years. Never day traded options. I had a friend that did and he would trade in the thousands, or tens of thousands of dollars for a single trade. On occasion, I would buy some puts and calls, but not the volume that my friend would buy. I did do some short trading, which is always fun, but a bit nerve racking. You really have had to do your homework before doing this type of trading.

This last correction we just went through was a prime buying opportunity for short sellers and long term investors. I went against what the stock gurus always say, "Never buy a stock on the way down," but during a correction, most all of the stocks are on the way down, so when I buy a well known company that has had a good history of earnings, I feel comfortable with doing so. For example, I bought Intel last summer at $27 or $28 and sold it in January for I think $33. That is about a 25% gain. For me, that's good.

What was the name of the uranium company that you bought? My favorite was always Rio Tinto, which I did buy just this past January. I will hold long on this stock.

I read about short trading too and the thing that scares me on that (from what I read) is that there is no ceiling to how much money you could lose whereas with trading long, when your shares aren't worth anything, that's how much you lose, game over. I think I'm not nervy enough for that but maybe in the future, something to explore a little further.

You're right, the current correction is working in the favour of the short sellers more, but I think it's still possible to buy and make money when they go up but you're making less with each trade and it seems to be the case that you don't hold for long term. It's like little up-waves on the way down. Like the uranium company that we bought, Cameco, seems to have been trading for quite some time between $15.00 and $19.00 with a high about a year ago at 21.00. Up and down over and over so watching for the beginning of the next rise seems to be a viable method. I've actually enjoyed learning how to read the charts and figuring out which indicators I feel the most comfortable with.

We've also got some cash set aside to watch as things slow and drop in general and then I've put together a list of good companies that have a good history of dividend payouts and gradual and stable increases and there will come a time when we begin putting that into those companies with a view to just holding them and ignoring the ups and downs and just collect the dividends. If anything all of this learning has been good for exercising the old 'grey matter'. I find it more interesting that cross word puzzles for that purpose.
 
Day traders, in general, are looking for quick money. Normally, I would buy and sell in the same session, but no longer than the third session. If the stock tumbled, I would cash in to curb my loss, otherwise, I was in for the long haul. A day trader has to decide on what stocks he is going to buy before opening, unless something geopolitical pops up during the session that may effect a price change and you can get in or out of a stock. Basically, you have to had done your homework and know what stocks you will buy on open and then decide how much of a return is your threshold. Some will take 5% while others want maybe 10-15%. Unless the market is having a run up in that particular session, 15% may be an unreal expectation. You also have to take in account your trading fee and capital gains tax to arrive at our net gain.

When I was really into day trading gung ho, I would have spent a lot of time watching and maybe charting my picks. There are companies out there that do this for you and of course, most financial websites will show a stock history for hours, days, weeks and years. I went to a seminar that was held here in my area and Peter Lynch, who started the Magellan Fund at Fidelity was the guest speaker. He made the comment that many good investments can be discovered by the trader, if he keeps his eyes and ears open. He gave the example of the one time when he went shopping with his wife at the mall and as he walked around and sat in the common area and watched people, he would see a lot of women go in and out of "The Limited." The more he thought about the idea of buying the stock, the more liked it, so he bought a boat load and hit a homerun, which in investor's language means that he doubled his money. How long it took, I don't know.

A good day trader always keeps his ear to the ground and his nose in the air, or so I have been told. A good trader puts in the time and reaps the rewards. The day trader has to know what sector or what stock is hot. I bought Facebook at 30 couple of dollars when my broker told me to hold off because they felt the stock was a fad and people would lose interest causing the stock to bomb. I sold it at $80 couple of dollars and today the stock is about $110.00. OTOH, I bought Sirius-XM at $3.50 and it has gone nowhere. It just sits there spinning its wheels.

Practicing on paper is a good way to learn about the ups and downs, but reality is life's best teacher in this business. If you are afraid of losing your money, go to the casino and see if you can do better. Oh, and BTW, gaming stocks are generally a good buy, or have been in the past a good buy this time of the year, just before the vacationers go to Vegas. If I was to buy an oil stock, I think BP and/or Exxon-Mobil would be my play. If you are never sure what a stock may do and you like it and buy it, maybe you should consider buying the 'puts' to go with it, if you believe the stock will fall. Otherwise, don't buy the stock, just buy the call and hope the stock goes above the strike price and then purchase and sell the stock, all in the same session.

Enjoy!
 
Thanks for the suggestions oldman. A guy we know once said to my husband, 'how do you make a million bucks on the stock market?' and my husband replied, 'start out with $2 million' with the idea in mind that that's what you'll have left.:p All kidding aside, I think that if you put in the time to learn what you're doing, the stock market is a better 'bet' than gambling but you do have to learn to read the clues that are available. I'm just learning this stuff and I'm also a very cautious person by nature so the chances of becoming a millionaire are slim to none, but I think if we are careful, it's going to mean I can feel more comfortable about a little charitable giving and buying grandkids presents will be a more relaxed event. Like I won't be worried about wasting money on stuff that it turns out they don't like or aren't interested in for longer than it takes to rip the paper off!
 
Just the S & P tracker. Never bought any stocks for single company.
 


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