Portland Oregon Doesn't Want Californians Buying Their Real Estate

It's not only Oregon that can be affected by transplanted Californians. I remember a few years ago, when there was a major migration of California people to Colorado...and they drove the housing prices in Denver sky high. The longer this California drought lingers, the more likely that there will be even more Californians leaving that state, and bringing a substantial sum of money with them.
 

I was born in California in the 30's. For years I watched as hoards of people moved in from all over the country. It crowded our roads, increased our crime, drove up Real Estate prices sky high. I put up with it until I could retire and leave. I will not return to California to live as it is not the California I was born in. I understand people not wanting what happened to my beautiful birthplace happening to theirs.
 
Part of the problem with any fad it you will is the people that come to the game late. Those buying real estate to resell can be the most dangerous because they can be the first to abandon ship when the market drops causing deflation or stagnation by putting their house on the market too soon or with too much competition diluting the market.

And unless transplants already have a pile a money what happens when they can't find the work they need for a mortgage. I've seen transplants get pretty messed up in a boom area. They buy with a mortgage based on their previous job then when they move in they don't have access to the same kind of higher paying job.

The biggest problems is when the transplants from richer areas of the country start wanting and demanding many of the services more costly state/city areas might provide. This changes taxes, insurances, congestion,roads along with saturation from other/private businesses. Florida was retirement/tourist state then came the boom but many didn't last because there isn't big money for the individual in elder care or hospitality. After the boom Florida basically became NYC south. But it's still a hospitality economy for all intensive purposes excluding some agriculture.

Oregon as a whole is more suburban, fast and high priced growth will make it urban. You lose a way and pace of life in a boom.
 
During the housing slump, Canadians with money came to Arizona and bought up foreclosures in large numbers. They didn't buy them to live in, even part time, they rent them. This turned huge areas into transit communities of people who had less respect for the properties and who in many cases are litterbugs, etc.
 
Is it not against Federal Law to discriminate against real property buyers for any reason? imp
 
Californians are buying down here also..They make a pretty profit on the sale of their homes up there and buy bigger homes down here with money left over!!!
 
I bought a house in San Jose in the 1964 time frame. I paid $14,750 for a 4 br, 2 car garage, on a postage stamp size lot. A year later I was transferred to Florida and it sold for just a bit more at $15,000 something. Today it is up near $400,000. Using 'Google Earth' it doesn't look like anymore than what I bought. How do folks manage to buy such homes and who pays enough to make it possible. I would think that just the property taxes would be very hurtful each year.
 
During the housing slump, Canadians with money came to Arizona and bought up foreclosures in large numbers. They didn't buy them to live in, even part time, they rent them. This turned huge areas into transit communities of people who had less respect for the properties and who in many cases are litterbugs, etc.

I've seen this scenario play out too many times in desired/tourist areas and in suburbs outside of major cities. This is also why old school human resource logic says always hire someone living in a house, not an apartment (not accurate but still practiced, I digress). It's funny some landlords you could make a nuke, cook meth and they would clean up no questions asked after you leave, others one chip of paint there goes the deposit. But yes large areas of rentals and renters is not good unless it's a tourist area with a more natural cycle or turnover.
 
I've been thinking of the raise in housing prices lately. I've noticed how much rents have gone up here in the large town I live in in Northern California.

Oregon and Washington blaming California isn't new. It's gone on since the 80's. Washington used to be cheap. And they blamed all the Californians moving up there for the higher prices. There was a radio show where people would call in and say "I have such and such and I'm renting it for X dollars a month" I can't tell you how many times the guy said "you're renting it for way too little!" On another program someone called in and mentioned this show stating Washingtonians were doing it to themselves and stop blaming California.

I think housing is out of hand in so many places. I hate how the rents have gone up where I live. For people who don't make a lot and especially have pets, it can be a challenge.
 
Well....look at it from the other end. Do you want to live in a place that's stagnating? There's plenty of those around, actually. Even in CA, lol. The trouble is, the prices of things rise - commodities, such as food, building materials, asphalt for roads, heavy equipment and cars.

If you are living in a stagnant economy, you are losing financial ground a little every day. That totals up to a lot over a few years, or a couple of decades.

Just FYI I don't know anyone who's left CA because of the drought, unless maybe it's a farmer who's given up or migrant workers who have fewer crops to harvest. Rationing water just means retraining people not to WASTE water. It's more "turn off the faucet when you brush your teeth".

My DH, who grew up in Hong Kong, tells stories about real water rationing. When the winter rains failed and the rivers ran dry (all HK's water is controlled by China, always has been), in the summer sometimes they had to do water rationing. The taps would go on for one hour, max, once a day. People filled up bathtubs, sinks, 5-gallon buckets, pots and pans! Almost everyone lives in apartment buildings or condos, only the very very wealthy own SFH in HK.

One very good reason to stay in CA? (Besides loving it here) Prop 13. If you buy a home your prop taxes are essentially frozen at that value except for a max 2% annual increase allowed by the previous year CPI. The rate is 1.1% but counties are allowed to add to that rate for any voter-approved local bond measures, so for example we pay 1.43% in our county while my niece who lives 10 miles away in another pays 1.45%.

RE is high but so are salaries. $100K is middle-class in the big cities. If you make under $60K annually, whether single or a couple, that's a tight financial situation. People come and go in CA all the time. Many people come to San Francisco, but few manage to stay. Even in the '60's, if you didn't have good skills for the current job market you couldn't make enough to get by. I remember being surprised how many young people I met who had moved across country to be in SF. They didn't know anyone here, had no job experience, and just "thought it would be fun to live in CA!"

Well, yeah - it's fun living here, but you're just one of 600 people who applied for a low-paying job. That's not quite so much fun after all, is it?

I like Oregon a lot, but I enjoy Washington more. There's just more places to go and things to do. Oregon's always kvetched about CA folks, because neither OR nor WA have ever passed anything like Prop 13 to protect their long-time residents and elderly.

Since my two Seattleite aunts were very grateful to sell their homes at a whopping profit to cushion their old age, regardless of who bought them, it's fairly safe to say that a few anti-CA fanatics who want to short themselves out of a good profit probably aren't going to have much effect on the overall migration in and out of CA.

People in the West move around a lot more than folks in other areas. That was the first thing I noticed about coming to CA in the early '60's. Native-born Californians were rarer than hen's teeth. I was in SF for five years before I met a group of born-in-SF locals and so promptly went around to all my friends (also East Coast transplants) saying, "Hey, I finally met some people who were actually born here!"

As the Boomers retire, a lot of smaller cities are going to see an increase in population. Many want to downsize and have better weather, and most have either fewer or no kids to tie them to an area.
 
When I lived in Oregon some "ungreeting" cards came out. I forget some of the cute sayings in them but basically they said "spend your money vacationing here and then get to hell back to California!" In the 70s they didn't like Californians at all. I'm sure they still don't.
 


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