Priest Beheaded By ISIS in Normandy France

France seems to be Ground Zero for ISIS attacks...and Germany is also seeing a rise in this lunacy. I wonder how much longer the people are going to stand for this before they begin to question the wisdom of their governments immigration policies. But, then, many of these attacks seem to be from "home grown" terrorists who have become influenced by ISIS...and that is going to be Very Hard to resolve.
 

Don M. said:
France seems to be Ground Zero for ISIS attacks...and Germany is also seeing a rise in this lunacy. I wonder how much longer the people are going to stand for this before they begin to question the wisdom of their governments immigration policies. But, then, many of these attacks seem to be from "home grown" terrorists who have become influenced by ISIS...and that is going to be Very Hard to resolve.
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They may be Home Grown Don, but they are still Muslim aren't they? Does this make a strong case for denying immigration to ALL Muslims in ALL countries?
 
What needs to happen in the Western nations, IMO, is for the Muslim leaders in our nations to speak up and condemn these senseless attacks...which are being carried out in the name of Islam. I am not aware of a single instance in which these "leaders" have spoken up against these violent acts. It appears that the followers of Islam take the numerous passages in their Koran, about "death to all Infidels" seriously, and by their silence, they condone these attacks. If this crap continues, there is going to be an increasing popular demand for a crackdown on All Muslims, or a return to the days of the Crusades.

Insofar as immigration is concerned, there appears to be no real way to "vet" these immigrants and check into their background to see if they are potential terrorists. If just 1% of them sneak through the "system" alongside the responsible immigrants, that leaves a potential for hundreds of future attacks. Compared to Europe...especially France...we have not seen the almost weekly, or daily reports of these incidents, but that could change at any time. After all, Europe still has some way to go to match the carnage these lunatics caused here on 9/11.
 
 
Well, I guess I should have been more "specific" in my statement....I am Not aware of any Muslim leader "condemnation" of these acts that has been reported by any of the "U.S. mainstream media". The examples you refer to seem to be from the UK, and India...with the exception of a minor piece in Time magazine, from last year.

It's going to take a lot more than just a minor statement from some Muslim politicians to make a difference. The Muslim "Religious" leaders are the ones who should be making highly visible statements if they Really believe that Islam is a religion of "Peace".
 
Don M. said:
Well, I guess I should have been more "specific" in my statement....I am Not aware of any Muslim leader "condemnation" of these acts that has been reported by any of the "U.S. mainstream media". The examples you refer to seem to be from the UK, and India...with the exception of a minor piece in Time magazine, from last year.

It's going to take a lot more than just a minor statement from some Muslim politicians to make a difference. The Muslim "Religious" leaders are the ones who should be making highly visible statements if they Really believe that Islam is a religion of "Peace".
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Just because the US MSM doesn't report it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. They are notorious for failing to report things.
 
Regardless of anything they are frickin' animals. Not even animals...how many creatures kill their own kind for attention? It isn't about Islam at all. It's about a bunch of sadistic barbarians who banded together so they can get their jollies murdering whomever they can get ahold of.
 
Well, Hillary Clinton wants to let 65,000 + of these refugees in to the US per year starting in FY 2017. That's over a quarter of a million in 4 years, assuming it's only 65,000 per year.

I think the US better wake up and think long and hard before we do anything like this, endangering our way of life and our citizens, or we will be as disrupted as Europe is. Dems keep saying "This is not who we are" when talking about excluding middle eastern refugees, but IMHO we will not be "who we are" for very long if we let great numbers of them in. Instead, we'll be who France is, and Germany, and Belgium, and other countries, cleaning blood and wreckage off our streets. Do we want to risk this?

There is no disputing the fact that this sort of violence in Europe has greatly escalated since the influx of refugees, and no reason to believe the same thing won't happen here.
 
Canadian Imams and foreign Muslim religious leaders regularly make messages of peace. I think it is naive to think ISIL/DAESH/special interest media give a damn. Also, with respect, local mainstream media is only a part of the world's media. I think it is beneficial for all of us to glean as much world wide information as possible, lest we fall prey to repetitive sensationalism.
 
Butterfly said:
Which is one of the reasons I regularly read BBC online. Actually, much better coverage than many US media.
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Agree BBC is a very good source for news, including US news.

I won't watch BBC on election night as they just sit and explain how the system is different than the UK. So I usually watch CNN.
 
Lon said:
They may be Home Grown Don, but they are still Muslim aren't they? Does this make a strong case for denying immigration to ALL Muslims in ALL countries?
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So are you suggesting rounding them all up and locking them in internment camps or putting them on boats and sending them out to sea? Even the people who are peaceful and just want to raise their families like you did?
 
Butterfly said:
Well, Hillary Clinton wants to let 65,000 + of these refugees in to the US per year starting in FY 2017. That's over a quarter of a million in 4 years, assuming it's only 65,000 per year.

I think the US better wake up and think long and hard before we do anything like this, endangering our way of life and our citizens, or we will be as disrupted as Europe is. Dems keep saying "This is not who we are" when talking about excluding middle eastern refugees, but IMHO we will not be "who we are" for very long if we let great numbers of them in. Instead, we'll be who France is, and Germany, and Belgium, and other countries, cleaning blood and wreckage off our streets. Do we want to risk this?

There is no disputing the fact that this sort of violence in Europe has greatly escalated since the influx of refugees, and no reason to believe the same thing won't happen here.
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Except those people, likely families and single moms with small children will be most likely long time residents in the camps where they've been interviewed repeatedly by experts who know what 'signs' to look for that would indicate problems with their applications. A lot different than people flooding over the borders by the millions.


I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger cause of the anger among the young people is a feeling of never being accepted in the communities that they live in. A lack of inclusion, lack of hope for a good future. Hasn't France had a long history (in France) of those communities having problems because of high unemployment among that group. I'm sure I remember hearing years and years ago about riots and anger among the (Muslim) young, long before ISIS existed.

France has a long history of abuse too of non-whites also in foreign countries, so their current situation maybe shouldn't be such a surprise.

And thanks for the great links about peaceful Muslim demonstrations Ameriscot. Mainstream media has failed in regard to their presence among us it seems.
 
Having this murder happen in the countryside basically, away from the urban media-centers, starkly illustrates the hate that the Islamic terrorists feel for Christians.
 
One of the things that caught my eye is the one of the attackers was already on a terrorist watch and let him loose with an electronic monitor. If he is that much of a risk why even bother with an ankle monitor. There were no charges and jail time for some of his activities that were deemed terrorist related???

Even more mind boggling is he was under electronic surveillance which goes to show you that using big brother big tech does not work 100% of the time. To top it off France has been under a declared emergency since the Paris attacks that include enhanced police powers. So let's go over the list: declared and labeled a terrorist, monitored by technology and in a country with enhanced police powers and still a successful & heinous terrorist attack???
 
WhatInThe said:
One of the things that caught my eye is the one of the attackers was already on a terrorist watch and let him loose with an electronic monitor. If he is that much of a risk why even bother with an ankle monitor. There were no charges and jail time for some of his activities that were deemed terrorist related???

Even more mind boggling is he was under electronic surveillance which goes to show you that using big brother big tech does not work 100% of the time. To top it off France has been under a declared emergency since the Paris attacks that include enhanced police powers. So let's go over the list: declared and labeled a terrorist, monitored by technology and in a country with enhanced police powers and still a successful & heinous terrorist attack???
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The depth of thier hatred toward anyone who disagrees with them is mind blowing. They hate us, they will stop at nothing to kill us and they are multiplying.
 
Shalimar said:
Not just a hate for Christians, but also for anyone Muslim who does not conform to their twisted ideology. Muslims remain their largest victims. Funny how often that gets left by the wayside.
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True bombings in Somalia and Afghanistan over the last month along the horrendous Baghdad bomb. BUT what makes this so heinous is this church in particular was found on a hit list a year ago. This was not random. This had specific purpose to ISIS.
 
Debby said:
Except those people, likely families and single moms with small children will be most likely long time residents in the camps where they've been interviewed repeatedly by experts who know what 'signs' to look for that would indicate problems with their applications. A lot different than people flooding over the borders by the millions.


I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger cause of the anger among the young people is a feeling of never being accepted in the communities that they live in. A lack of inclusion, lack of hope for a good future. Hasn't France had a long history (in France) of those communities having problems because of high unemployment among that group. I'm sure I remember hearing years and years ago about riots and anger among the (Muslim) young, long before ISIS existed.

France has a long history of abuse too of non-whites also in foreign countries, so their current situation maybe shouldn't be such a surprise.

And thanks for the great links about peaceful Muslim demonstrations Ameriscot. Mainstream media has failed in regard to their presence among us it seems.
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Yes, they have. I guess it doesn't make for exciting enough news.
 
Shalimar said:
Not just a hate for Christians, but also for anyone Muslim who does not conform to their twisted ideology. Muslims remain their largest victims. Funny how often that gets left by the wayside.
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True. And many prefer to say all (1.6 billion) Muslims want to kill them.
 

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