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A leading Russian opposition politician, former Deputy Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov, has been shot dead in Moscow, Russian officials say.
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An unidentified attacker in a car shot Mr Nemtsov four times in the back as he crossed a bridge in view of the Kremlin, police say.
He died hours after appealing for support for a march on Sunday in Moscow against the war in Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has condemned the murder, the Kremlin says.
President Putin has assumed "personal control" of the investigation into the killing, said his spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061

Anyone believe Putin is going to look very hard?? lol!!
 

Well, I'm sure that he will work at least as hard as Obama did about his pre-election promise to make sure GMO products are labelled.....oh and who did he appoint as America's 'Food Czar' but Monsanto's Michael Taylor who is apparently heading up investigations in dairy farmers who sell raw milk. So you have the right to choose to end your pregnancy but you have no right to buy raw milk. Corruption in government!.....sounds like every government should button their lip and quit pointing fingers. Because for every one finger they point at the next guy, there are three pointing back at themselves.

http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/dump_monsanto_mike/


With an 80-85% approval rating, I hardly think that Putin was all that worried about a guy who could only garner 14% of the votes against a field of Communists in the last election he ran in to become a mere mayor in Sochi six years ago. I also think that it's unlikely that Putin would order a minor irritant murdered outside his own offices and within range of video camera's. Hardly up to the standards of an intelligent man don't you think and especially as Russia's old KGB had a singular reputation for covert and hidden activities. Seems more likely that it was set up to cause controversy for Putin.

And if you want to point at Putin's 'reluctance' to investigate a murder, how about the US State Departments failure to investigate the murder of American reporter Serena Shim in Turkey even as she was investigating the involvement of the West in the formation and support of ISIS in that region.

'...Before her death, Serena Shim had been reporting on the siege in Kobani where the Syrian military was fighting Islamic State factions with the autonomous Kurds, Turkey’s historic enemy, in the middle fighting for their own survival. She was also investigating the thousands of foreign fighters that have crossed the Turkish border into Syria and in the process uncovered possible evidence of secret western assistance to Takfiri “rebels” linked to the Islamic State. They are with the same Takfiris who kidnapped up to 150 Christians (Reuters) in northeast Syria and strangled a girl in public last week....' http://theantimedia.org/anonymous-op-white-house-ignores-serena-shim-turkey-syria/


Like I have said several times in the past, suspect every government including your own.

(By the way, that last link also has a video on another of its pages that gives a clear and easy to understand explanation as to how ISIS managed to suddenly explode onto the scene AND who was involved in their development. I have seen the views in that video, mentioned on other alternate news sites.)
 
QuickSilver said:
I know this one would bring you out of hiding Debby... lol!
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Actually QS, I haven't been hiding. I've been recovering from the worst case of vertigo ever. I'm hoping it never comes again because it was awful! Hit me in the space of 15 minutes and had me laid out for a week. And it's left me a bit 'limp' as a result.

It actually happened on the night that we had our big blizzard and our 200 foot long driveway was completely impassable not to mention the roads. If I hadn't had one of these attacks about ten years ago and so was familiar with what was going on, I think we would have been freaking out because it was extremely unlikely that EMT would have been able to get down our driveway at that moment. Fortunately it wasn't one of us having a heart attack!
 
WhatInThe said:
Appears to be planned CNN showed video of shooter and getaway vehicle. Shooter waited/hid from target. Perhaps not Putin but Putin supporters and hangers on that will lose out if he falls from power.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/28/europe/russian-politician-killed/index.html
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Pretty much the general consensus... Putin of course did not pull the trigger... BUT surely ordered it pulled. Dissent not kindly taken by Vlad.

Sorry for your illness Debby.... but by "bring you out of hiding".... I did not think you were ACTUALLY "hiding"... that's a figure of speech.. same as "wake you up"... not thinking someone actually was sleeping... It simply means "get you to respond to a post. Hope you are feeling better though.
 
WhatInThe said:
Appears to be planned CNN showed video of shooter and getaway vehicle. Shooter waited/hid from target. Perhaps not Putin but Putin supporters and hangers on that will lose out if he falls from power.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/28/europe/russian-politician-killed/index.html
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Interesting article and video. One thing that stood out to me was that the video (according to the speaker) suggests that an individual shot him, then a car drove up and that shooter ran to the car, jumped in and it sped away and yet the woman he was with apparently told the police that a car drove by them and opened fire. A small difference or maybe a large difference?
 
Debby said:
Interesting article and video. One thing that stood out to me was that the video (according to the speaker) suggests that an individual shot him, then a car drove up and that shooter ran to the car, jumped in and it sped away and yet the woman he was with apparently told the police that a car drove by them and opened fire. A small difference or maybe a large difference?
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If nothing else the waiting vehicle shows planning. I don't know if he was followed or a walk on that bridge is part of his routine. I think part of the reason it was that well planned he might have had security at times let alone followers surrounding him. I'm still leaning towards rogue Putin supporters because even he knows how fragile his regime is or what martyrdom can do.
 
WhatInThe said:
If nothing else the waiting vehicle shows planning. I don't know if he was followed or a walk on that bridge is part of his routine. I think part of the reason it was that well planned he might have had security at times let alone followers surrounding him. I'm still leaning towards rogue Putin supporters because even he knows how fragile his regime is or what martyrdom can do.
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I don't believe we will EVER know. Do you?
 
WhatInThe said:
If nothing else the waiting vehicle shows planning. I don't know if he was followed or a walk on that bridge is part of his routine. I think part of the reason it was that well planned he might have had security at times let alone followers surrounding him. I'm still leaning towards rogue Putin supporters because even he knows how fragile his regime is or what martyrdom can do.
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I've read on several websites that Nemtsov never has had bodyguards or security so I guess he wasn't that concerned. I also read this morning from an ex-British ambassador that he was kind of a washed up politician who's descent into anonymity began when contrary to his expectation, Yeltsin appointed Putin to be President instead of him. Could that have been the point in time when his animosity towards Putin really started?Don't get me wrong, I'm most definitely not suggesting that Russia doesn't have a huge problem with corruption.

The USSR was a hotbed of deceit and so on and in the biographies that I've read, Putin acknowledged it and he also pointed out that when the whole system (the Soviet system) is rotten, you have to tread carefully because you really don't know who to trust and then throw in out and out corruption mafia style and that gives you an idea how easy it would be to change it. And the Soviet Union only collapsed a few years ago remember.

Wasn't Putin first appointed in 1997? That's not even 20 years ago. From what I've read, I don't see Putin as being stupid enough to be involved in this, but that's not to say that as you've suggested, that someone who is a supporter of the current government might not have made this dreadful decision. But it's equally possible that there are destabilization motives involved or revenge by several other groups that I've heard mentioned.

Terrorists or maybe some of those corrupt officials or businessmen who saw this as a feasible way to deal with someone who was outspoken against the corruption they perpetrate and to deal with a government that wasn't necessarily totally amenable to their way of life. Two birds with one stone you know.Will the truth ever come out.....who knows.
 
Thanks QS, I'm feeling better although I still feel kind of 'wrung out'. At least my episode wasn't like some of the case studies that I've since read about! Some folks apparently have it as an ongoing, daily issue and it literally wrecks their lives. The one upside is that for a week, I didn't have to trudge out through the snowdrifts to the barn!
 
Debby said:
Actually QS, I haven't been hiding. I've been recovering from the worst case of vertigo ever. I'm hoping it never comes again because it was awful! Hit me in the space of 15 minutes and had me laid out for a week. And it's left me a bit 'limp' as a result.

It actually happened on the night that we had our big blizzard and our 200 foot long driveway was completely impassable not to mention the roads. If I hadn't had one of these attacks about ten years ago and so was familiar with what was going on, I think we would have been freaking out because it was extremely unlikely that EMT would have been able to get down our driveway at that moment. Fortunately it wasn't one of us having a heart attack!
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I'm so glad you're over that Debby. I had an equilibrium thing because I had so much snot in my head, and it hardened or something, like cement. Guess what saved me? Not three rounds of antibiotics, but plain ole ACV (apple cider vinegar) yeehaw! Whoops, this thread was on Ras'putin someone??
 
Apple cider vinegar is just plain nasty stuff isn't it? My daughter 'snorted' it once because she read that it was helpful in the case of sinus inflammation when you have a cold! I think I'd rather put up with the stuffiness and she said it burned like a 'son of a gun'. Did you do that or did you drink it?
 
LOL, no I didn't snort it, omg, that would kill a person, LOL! No, I dilute a tbsp in water, and drink it. It is nasty, but when I no longer have chronic sinus infections, there's got to be something to it. Dr. Oz was the one I think, that started the teapot thing where you poor some solution into one nostril, and so on. Is that what happened to your nose in the pic Debby, LOL:)
 

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