question about chicken

JaniceM

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Has anyone heard of chicken processed without water/air? (I think that's what the package said). It didn't smell very good when I was taking it out of the package, but it looked fresh.
I only bought it because the only other option was skinless chicken, and the store didn't have any roasts either.
From all the aggravation and worry it took to get to a grocery store, I really hope it isn't spoiled...
 

I never heard of this. Vacuum packed? Is it from the USA? If it doesn't smell good, I sure wouldn't eat it!

Not sure where it's from, but probably somewhere in this state.
UPDATE: I found Live Chat on the usda.gov site, and the person said as it's a sweet smell and not 'rancid,' and the color is normal, it should be o.k. I guess I'll find out when it's finished cooking.
 

Has anyone heard of chicken processed without water/air? (I think that's what the package said). It didn't smell very good when I was taking it out of the package, but it looked fresh.
I only bought it because the only other option was skinless chicken, and the store didn't have any roasts either.
From all the aggravation and worry it took to get to a grocery store, I really hope it isn't spoiled...
Is it worth the risk to eat smelly chicken? What brand name and what date is on the package?
 
Is it worth the risk to eat smelly chicken? What brand name and what date is on the package?

Well, if it smells bad when it's done I'll throw it out.
Brand was one I'd never heard of- So True or something like that. I bought it on Saturday and opened it this morning- the Use By date was Apr. 15, but the store isn't known for its food safety practices.
 
I have a small unit that I use a lot at times, used properly you can save food for months without frost damages.

Vacuum packing is a method of packaging that removes air from the package prior to sealing. This method involves (manually or automatically) placing items in a plastic film package, removing air from inside and sealing the package.[1] Shrink film is sometimes used to have a tight fit to the contents. The intent of vacuum packing is usually to remove oxygen from the container to extend the shelf life of foods and, with flexible package forms, to reduce the volume of the contents and package.[2]

Vacuum packing reduces atmospheric oxygen, limiting the growth of aerobic bacteria or fungi, and preventing the evaporation of volatile components. It is also commonly used to store dry foods over a long period of time, such as cereals, nuts, cured meats, cheese, smoked fish, coffee, and potato chips (crisps). On a more short term basis, vacuum packing can also be used to store fresh foods, such as vegetables, meats, and liquids, because it inhibits bacterial growth.

Vacuum packing greatly reduces the bulk of non-food items. For example, clothing and bedding can be stored in bags evacuated with a domestic vacuum cleaner or a dedicated vacuum sealer. This technique is sometimes used to compact household waste, for example where a charge is made for each full bag collected.

Vacuum packaging products, using plastic bags, canisters, bottles, or mason jars, are available for home use.

For delicate food items which might be crushed by the vacuum packing process (such as potato chips), an alternative is to replace the interior gas with nitrogen. This has the same effect of inhibiting deterioration due to the removal of oxygen.
 
Sometimes the chicken just needs to be rinsed off. I always rinse off fresh chicken. You know how hard boiled eggs come ready to eat now? They're in a vinegar water I think. But they're nasty if you don't rinse them first.
 
Well, if it smells bad when it's done I'll throw it out.
Brand was one I'd never heard of- So True or something like that. I bought it on Saturday and opened it this morning- the Use By date was Apr. 15, but the store isn't known for its food safety practices.
Was it vacuum bag sealed, Janice?

I find a lot of that (initially), when first opened, can release an off sort of odour, but it's just the gases escaping.
 
Was it vacuum bag sealed, Janice?

I find a lot of that (initially), when first opened, can release an type odour, but it's just the gases escaping.
I didn't think of that when I first read this post.

I've had this with the occasional lamb that I've purchased. It comes from the plant pre-packaged in a styrofoam shell, and the tight cellophane cover is bulging from the meat out-gassing. I had to get on the internet to read about it because of the off-smell (which is normal for packaged lamb.)
 
I didn't think of that when I first read this post.

I've had this with the occasional lamb that I've purchased. It comes from the plant pre-packaged in a styrofoam shell, and the tight cellophane cover is bulging from the meat out-gassing. I had to get on the internet to read about it because of the off-smell (which is normal for packaged lamb.)
We bought a beef roast one time that was vacuumed packed, and although the roast was delicious, I absolutely refuse to buy another, and yes, quite often vacuum packed ground beef displays a tight, bubble-like wrap on it, due to off-gassing.
 
We bought a beef roast one time that was vacuumed packed, and although the roast was delicious, I absolutely refuse to buy another, and yes, quite often vacuum packed ground beef displays a tight, bubble-like wrap on it, due to off-gassing.
What bothers me these days is that fully-cooked chicken can still had blood, especially near the bones. I did some reading about it.

Apparently chickens are grown so rapidly these days and rushed off to market that their skeletal systems don't have time to fully develop. So they will continue to bleed after the thing reaches temperature (parts or whole chicken.) According to government websites, this is perfectly safe to eat...it is not the legacy sign of being under cooked.

It's causing real problems in the restaurant industry when customers keep sending their food back because it's "under-cooked," and chefs are having to over-cook their dishes until they are tough & rubbery, solely to satisfy a visual that is now meaningless and that they have no control over.

This is the price we pay if we want reliable supplies at a reasonable cost in a nation of over 350,000,000 people. Not sure how things are your side of the border. Likely the same...everything's a universal market these days.
 
What bothers me these days is that fully-cooked chicken can still had blood, especially near the bones. I did some reading about it.

Apparently chickens are grown so rapidly these days and rushed off to market that their skeletal systems don't have time to fully develop. So they will continue to bleed after the thing reaches temperature (parts or whole chicken.) According to government websites, this is perfectly safe to eat...it is not the legacy sign of being under cooked.

It's causing real problems in the restaurant industry when customers keep sending their food back because it's "under-cooked," and chefs are having to over-cook their dishes until they are tough & rubbery, solely to satisfy a visual that is now meaningless and that they have no control over.

This is the price we pay if we want reliable supplies at a reasonable cost in a nation of over 350,000,000 people. Not sure how things are your side of the border. Likely the same...everything's a universal market these days.
Indeed, undercooked or improperly prepared poultry (as a whole) is nothing to mess around with.

Myself, I never buy any sort of meat that's already cooked, like those table-ready roasts and chickens and stuff, but I do know as for rotisserie chickens in stores, we have stringent laws that apply as to extended cooking times to ensure the likes of are properly and absolutely cooked through.
 
Indeed, undercooked or improperly prepared poultry (as a whole) is nothing to mess around with.

Myself, I never buy any sort of meat that's already cooked, like those table-ready roasts and chickens and stuff, but I do know as for rotisserie chickens in stores, we have stringent laws that apply as to extended cooking times to ensure the likes of are properly and absolutely cooked through.
I'm so cheap, it took me the longest time to break down and spend the money on a quality instant-read thermometer. Like everything I put off buying, I wish I had bought one years ago.

When I cook boneless chicken breast, there is often a thin band in the middle that's still a little raw. It's tough to hit the exact center with a regular thermometer. An instant-read allows you to over-shoot the middle and slowly drag it back through so you can immediately see any under-done spot.

I also use it to quickly test water temp for bread baking. I really get a lot of use out of it.
 
Wow - some fascinating information here! I ordered chicken thighs, but my daughter couldn't find any. She bought me a bag of "chicken breasts." They were nothing like the clean-cut cuts that we used to find! I'm not even convinced they were breasts - nor that they were chicken! (But, once I cut them up and made chicken paprikash, they worked out fine!) I also noticed that the store isn't putting that thick wad of absorbent padding under meat anymore. For that, I'm glad - they were gross! Hope your chicken dinner works out well and that you stay well after eating it!
 
I'm so cheap, it took me the longest time to break down and spend the money on a quality instant-read thermometer. Like everything I put off buying, I wish I had bought one years ago.

When I cook boneless chicken breast, there is often a thin band in the middle that's still a little raw. It's tough to hit the exact center with a regular thermometer. An instant-read allows you to over-shoot the middle and slowly drag it back through so you can immediately see any under-done spot.

I also use it to quickly test water temp for bread baking. I really get a lot of use out of it.
Yes, those thermometers are dandy!

A trick I use for when it comes to certain cuts that are thicker and you know will take longer to cook, is I slice into them beforehand. You don't have to go mad, just a deep slice into whatever it is that your looking to cook, and aside from allowing raw juices to ooze from the slice, the slice allows for additional heat to work through to the centre more efficiently.
 
Wow - some fascinating information here! I ordered chicken thighs, but my daughter couldn't find any. She bought me a bag of "chicken breasts." They were nothing like the clean-cut cuts that we used to find! I'm not even convinced they were breasts - nor that they were chicken! (But, once I cut them up and made chicken paprikash, they worked out fine!) I also noticed that the store isn't putting that thick wad of absorbent padding under meat anymore. For that, I'm glad - they were gross! Hope your chicken dinner works out well and that you stay well after eating it!
Those white absorbent pads remind me of disposable diapers.
 
Has anyone heard of chicken processed without water/air? (I think that's what the package said). It didn't smell very good when I was taking it out of the package, but it looked fresh.
I only bought it because the only other option was skinless chicken, and the store didn't have any roasts either.
From all the aggravation and worry it took to get to a grocery store, I really hope it isn't spoiled...
I don't understand why "fresh chicken" needs to be 'processed.' Also, lately it seems that all pork products are full of water. I can't fry bacon anymore - it's more like boiling it. Am I imagining things or has anyone else noticed this?
 
I don't understand why "fresh chicken" needs to be 'processed.' Also, lately it seems that all pork products are full of water. I can't fry bacon anymore - it's more like boiling it. Am I imagining things or has anyone else noticed this?
Gosh, Em, where to start. Related to bacon, I got so frustrated last year that I wrote the Canadian bacon plant to scorn them out over their packages containing nothing more than sliced fat, and what I find with packaged pork chops (not vacuumed sealed, just plastic wrapped), is occasionally when I open them there's an almost slimy coating on them... not fat, just a slimy type... I don't know what, so before cooking, I take a knife and scape the slime off of them.

I truly and honestly believe we wouldn't eat half the stuff we do if we only knew.
 
Sorry, I forgot about this thread.. the chicken wasn't good, and I was sick for a couple of days. Seems the members here who replied at the time knew more than the 'expert' over at the USDA site.
You're lucky you were only sick for a couple of days. A co-worker was hospitalized for 2 weeks after eating contaminated chicken. He was only 23 & healthy. Remember the cliché: "When in doubt, throw it out."

A few years ago, "Dateline NBC" did a hidden-camera piece with undercover employees about what goes on behind the meat counter in markets. Replacing expired labels, a 5-gallon bucket of blood to dip old beef in so it looks fresh.
We can expect more of this in the future as businesses struggle to stay afloat.
 
You're lucky you were only sick for a couple of days. A co-worker was hospitalized for 2 weeks after eating contaminated chicken. He was only 23 & healthy. Remember the cliché: "When in doubt, throw it out."

A few years ago, "Dateline NBC" did a hidden-camera piece with undercover employees about what goes on behind the meat counter in markets. Replacing expired labels, a 5-gallon bucket of blood to dip old beef in so it looks fresh.
We can expect more of this in the future as businesses struggle to stay afloat.
Decades ago a chain here called Food Lion got caught bleaching outdated chicken and re-wrapping it with a new Sell By Date.

I hope that this stuff is not too wide-spread. It's easy to sensationalize the few rogues. As much as I've cooked throughout the past 45+ years, and eaten home-cooked food my entire life before then, I can't believe the supply is that tainted.
 


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