Race to find Titanic tourist submarine with British billionaire and four others aboard that has vanished

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"A remotely operated underwater vehicle (ROV) searching for the Titan submersible has discovered a “debris field,” the U.S. Coastguard has said, raising the prospect that rescuers may now be searching in vain. The new data of a “debris field” has been passed to experts for analysis, said the USCG."
 

Alligatorob said:
Don't feel that way about their wealth, they were still people. However knowing that they were well informed and knew what they were getting into does make it a bit different.

Agree with you about the attention, this one is more about the story than who the people in the sub were.
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I don't, but I think a lot of people do. And the media can't seem to mention a name without preceding it with the word billionaire.

I don't think any of those passengers fully understood the risks involved with this dive. They must have at least assumed the craft or the system was better equipped for handling dire emergencies.
 
Naturally said:
Read a report that ...

"A remotely operated underwater vehicle (ROV) searching for the Titan submersible has discovered a “debris field,” the U.S. Coastguard has said, raising the prospect that rescuers may now be searching in vain. The new data of a “debris field” has been passed to experts for analysis, said the USCG."
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The Titanic itself has a huge debris field. Sure, you can tell old from new, but it could still cause delays and confusion.

I hope they're onto something.
 

Murrmurr said:
I don't think any of those passengers fully understood the risks involved with this dive. They must have at least assumed the craft or the system was better equipped for handling dire emergencies.
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I think you're right here... sure they had to sign those "understand you could die" papers, but when it comes right down to it, hired sky dives, and ... am I wrong here... even major surgery??? has those papers for people to sign. Re: the debris field... I hope it's maybe a piece of the Titanic just separated/broken off, but I guess it doesn't really make a difference now except for the families not being able to recover bodies. :cry:
 
Alligatorob said:
Don't feel that way about their wealth, they were still people. However knowing that they were well informed and knew what they were getting into does make it a bit different.

Agree with you about the attention, this one is more about the story than who the people in the sub were.
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I completely agree. Foolish , they were but they are STILL humans suffering. They still bleed red blood and still need oxygen like the rest of us. They still have family and friends who they love and who love them. Knowing they were well informed about the risks but went anyway takes away a bit of my empathy but I still feel much compassion and concern for their lives.
 
CallMeKate said:
I think you're right here... sure they had to sign those "understand you could die" papers, but when it comes right down to it, hired sky dives, and ... am I wrong here... even major surgery??? has those papers for people to sign. Re: the debris field... I hope it's maybe a piece of the Titanic just separated/broken off, but I guess it doesn't really make a difference now except for the families not being able to recover bodies. :cry:
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Rescuers will do their utmost to recover the bodies.
 
I too agree with the attention thing. Wouldn't matter who's on the submersible it would still get the same attention. The point I was making in my original post was this situation that has garnered so much media attention only exists because of and for the ultra-rich. In reality it would never exist for 'normal' people.
 
CallMeKate said:
Would there be anything left with implosion? I was thinking not... but maybe there wouldn't be a debris field with that, either.
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The bodies would be broken, but they would be there. The sub, too. All of it. An implosion would crush it, but not entirely flatten it. As soon as an implosion begins, pressures begin to equalize and the crushing soon stops. It all happens very quickly.
 
It has not been officially confirmed (news meeting at 8pm UK time) but, a friend of two of the passengers spoke on the radio a short while ago and said he believes it is the hub cap from the Titan which had been found (I think he said hub cap).
 
They said that there's a great possibility the titan is not on the bottom of the sea but on the top... but because it's not made to float it can be stuck just below the water, which make it the hardest to find...
 
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The landing frame and rear cover of the missing Titan submersible have been discovered on the ocean floor, according to experts involved in the search, who say it points to the vessel suffering a 'catastrophic implosion' that will have claimed all five of the lives on board
 
The families of the five men on board the sub are yet to publicly react to news of the debris discovery.

Experts have for days warned of the possibility that the Titan had sprung a leak and imploded under the pressure, which is 400 times that experienced at sea level.

'They would be dead before they knew anything had even happened,' L. David Marquet, a retired Navy nuclear submarine commander, said earlier this week.

If the debris does not belong to the Titan, the Coast Guard has vowed to continue its search.

Earlier this morning, Rear Admiral John Mauger, who is coordinating the effort from Boston, said during an appearance on NBC's Today show: 'People's will to live has to be accounted for.'

The submersible's oxygen theoretically should have run out at 8am EST (1pm BST) Thursday, according to the 96 hours limit listed on OceanGate's specs of the ship.
 
The family of British billionaire, Hamish Harding, have spoken of their fury that it took OceanGate's mothership, the Polar Prince, eight hours to report the sub missing on Sunday.

The Titan submerged at 8am (1pm BST) and lost communications at 9.45am (2.45pm) but was not reported as missing to the US Coast Guard until 5.40pm (10.40pm).

The sub was due to return to the Polar Prince ay 3pm EST (8pm BST) Sunday.

Since Sunday night, there has been a frantic, international effort to find it and save the men on board.

Those stuck onboard the sub include British billionaire Hamish Harding, OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, French navy veteran PH Nargeolet and Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman, who is just 19 and a student at Strathclyde University.

The Titan craft, run by OceanGate Explorations, submerged on Sunday at 1pm UK time (8am EST and 10pm in Sydney) around 400 miles southeast of St John's, Newfoundland.

At 2.45pm it lost contact with its mothership, the Polar Prince. But it wasn't reported missing to the US Coast Guard until 10.40pm.

Kathleen Cosnett, a cousin of UK businessman Hamish Harding, 58, who was on the sub, said the eight-hour delay before contacting the authorities was 'far too long'.

She told the Telegraph: 'It's very frightening. It took so long for them to get going to rescue them, it's far too long. I would have thought three hours would be the bare minimum.'

Despite fears their oxygen supplies have run out, there is still hope in the most desperate of situations.

Experts believe that the 96-hour oxygen supply number is an imprecise estimate and could be extended if those on board have taken measures to conserve breathable air including lying still and even sleeping.

Guillermo Sohnlein founded OceanGate with Rush in 2009 and earlier today said he believes that the window for finding them could go beyond the US Coast Guard's prediction.
 
Oh shoot...here it is... now...

We believe they have all been lost': OceanGate Expeditions confirms deaths of five crew on board missing Titan after debris was found 500meters from bow of Titanic​


OceanGate Expeditions has confirmed the deaths of the five men on the missing Titan submersible, parts of which were discovered today on the ocean floor, 500 meters from the bow of the famous ship they died trying to see.

The landing frame and rear cover of the missing submersible were discovered today by a remote operated submarine in a devastating blow to any hope that the men may still be found alive.

It would mean the sub suffered a crack and imploded under the underwater pressure, instantly killing all five men on board.

CNN reports that the two pieces of debris were found at 12,500ft underwater, 1,600ft from the famous shipwreck's bow.

Officials have not yet indicated whether they believe the sub ever made it to the Titanic - which the men paid $250,000 to do - or if they died before they ever got to lay eyes on it.

In a statement, OceanGate said this afternoon: 'We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost.

'These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans.

'Our hearts are with these five souls and every member of their families during this tragic time. We grieve the loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew.'
 
RIP the crew.

No contact said alot. Still wondering about that tapping noise. Wonder as oxygen declined that helped create an inward pressure without pressurized O2 tank?

Again RIP the crew and condolences to the families
 

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