Race to find Titanic tourist submarine with British billionaire and four others aboard that has vanished

Yes just reading it now, Marie.. I'm shocked ! When they said Implosion, in my mind I was thinking and explosion inwards which would have destroyed everything instantly.. but they're bringing up BIG bits of the Titan...
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Debris from the Titan submersible that imploded on the bottom of the Atlantic as it tried to reach the wreckage of the Titanic has been hauled ashore.

The huge chunks of metal, including the nose with the porthole the five men would have used to see the Titanic, were unloaded from the Horizon Arctic ship at the Canadian Coast Guard pier in St John's, Newfoundland, Canada, this morning.

They were quickly covered in large tarpaulins before being lifted by cranes on to trucks that took them away for assessment. The pieces included a large, white section of curved metal. Another object was full of cables and other mechanical parts.

Some of the sections which were pulled up appear to be parts of the sub's external cover and its landing frame, which were reportedly among the first bits of Titan debris which were discovered.

A large circular piece of the Titan, which is similar to the section at the rear end of the hull, was also retrieved.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12243189/Mangled-debris-Titan-sub-hauled-ashore-Canada.html

 
'Presumed human remains' have been found in the wreckage of the Titan submersible, the US Coast Guard announced on Wednesday.

Several identifiable parts of the ship were lifted ashore earlier in the afternoon, including the sub's nose and a large panel which appears to be from its tail end.

Amid those recovered pieces, Coast Guard officials said they discovered what they believed to be human remains, which will now be transported aboard a ship to a port in the United States where they will undergo testing and analysis.

The discoveries surprised experts who suspected Titan was completely destroyed when it suffered a 'catastrophic implosion' during a journey to the wreckage of the Titanic, killing all five on board.
 
Judging by the pieces did a connection fail. Was it a defective seem, gasket, seal, fastener, weld, glue etc? Is carbon fiber put together like a puzzle with interlocking pieces?
 
It must be horrific for the families to hear of the remains found. No one has stated any size of the matter. I agree, it can't be easy for the personal bringing these pieces up.
 
Remy said:
It must be horrific for the families to hear of the remains found. No one has stated any size of the matter. I agree, it can't be easy for the personal bringing these pieces up.
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Probably so, it all has to be hard for the families. So far they are calling them "Presumed human remains" hard to know what that means, could just be a residue... might not be human at all... Not that it would make any real difference to the families.
hollydolly said:
The discoveries surprised experts who suspected Titan was completely destroyed when it suffered a 'catastrophic implosion' during a journey to the wreckage of the Titanic, killing all five on board.
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Most of what I have seen appears consistent with a catastrophic implosion. However many experts believed the implosion would have been followed by an explosion, and maybe that didn't happen. The pieces I've seen look like quite hard material, not inconsistent with an implosion. And an implosion could have left recognizable body parts, but an explosion not so much. Either way death would still have been instantaneous, we are not built to withstand that kind of rapid pressurization.
 
Alligatorob said:
Probably so, it all has to be hard for the families. So far they are calling them "Presumed human remains" hard to know what that means, could just be a residue... might not be human at all... Not that it would make any real difference to the families.

Most of what I have seen appears consistent with a catastrophic implosion. However many experts believed the implosion would have been followed by an explosion, and maybe that didn't happen. The pieces I've seen look like quite hard material, not inconsistent with an implosion. And an implosion could have left recognizable body parts, but an explosion not so much. Either way death would still have been instantaneous, we are not built to withstand that kind of rapid pressurization.
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I hope you're right Rob... so far much of what the experts predicted hasn't been correct.. so in this one thing I hope you.. and all the experts are right, I just don't want these good people to have suffered at all..
 
The doomed submersible's electrical system designed using college interns.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/03/oceangate-ceo-used-college-interns-to-work-on-sub-report/

He said he wanted to avoid using ex professionals/navy and wanted new or different. How much the electrical system played is unknown.

It's not just about wiring if they put electrical conduit in place that could've compromised something that probably would be the issue not capabilities other than senors that could've detected damage, fatigue etc.
 
My theory about what happened to the bodies:

The pressure inside a human body is 1 atmosphere. The water's pressure at the depth of the submersible was 400 atmospheres.
The water's pressure forced the water into and through every cell of the bodies and the effect was not much different than being dissolved. Bones may have survived mostly intact.
 
Some recent reports indicate the sub had dropped it weights and was headed back to the surface which means they knew there was trouble on the way down. Another report said the sub would shut off lights on the way down to conserve battery power for the tour of the Titanic-unsure if that included both external and internal.
 
Oh no...my worst fears realised..... it's being claimed the guys would have known immediately before they died what was about to happen...

The passengers that died on the Titan submersible would have been aware of the impending catastrophe for a minute before the implosion, an expert has said.

Spanish submarine expert José Luis Martín suggested the submersible lost stability due to an electrical failure that left it without propulsion, causing it to fall toward the seabed 'like an arrow vertically' with its porthole facing down.

He estimated that the sub began freefalling at a depth of around 5,600 feet and fell 'as if it were a stone and without any control' for about 3,000 feet until at around 8,600 feet it 'popped like a balloon' due to the rapidly changing pressure.

Martin suggested the passengers would have been piled on top of each other in terrifying total darkness throughout the fall, which would have lasted between 48 and 71 seconds.
Martin offered his theory as to how the submersible failed during an interview with Spanish newspaper Nius.

'The starting point is that the submarine is descending without any incident and in a horizontal plane until it reached about 1,700 meters (5,500 feet).

'At that point, there was an electrical failure. It was left without an engine and without propulsion. That's when it lost communication with the Polar Prince,' he told the newspaper.

He then suggested that the lack of propulsion would have caused it to lose stability and begin descending rapidly.

'The Titan changed position and fell like an arrow vertically, because the 400 kilos of passengers that were in the porthole compromised the submarine. They all rushed and crowded on top of each other,' Martín added.

'Imagine the horror, the fear and the agony. It must have been like a horror movie.'

Due to the depth and the lack of both natural light and electricity, the group would have been in total darkness as they sank toward the bottom of the Atlantic, he said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html
 
According to a story being published recently by news outlets worldwide, Ocean Gate's submersibles had only a 14% success rate in attempts to reach the Titanic; 90 attempts and only 13 successful ones. All others ended in resurfacing before reaching the wreck. This was outlined in the waiver. What's not clear is whether the entire fee of $250k had to be paid if the dive was unsuccessful. Either way, don't think I'd be laying out a pile of money and risking my life knowing there was only a 14% chance of success. Perhaps I'm not adventurous enough :unsure:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eck-despite-charging-250-000-opportunity.html
 
MrPants said:
According to a story being published recently by news outlets worldwide, Ocean Gate's submersibles had only a 14% success rate in attempts to reach the Titanic; 90 attempts and only 13 successful ones. All others ended in resurfacing before reaching the wreck. This was outlined in the waiver. What's not clear is whether the entire fee of $250k had to be paid if the dive was unsuccessful. Either way, don't think I'd be laying out a pile of money and risking my life knowing there was only a 14% chance of success. Perhaps I'm not adventurous enough :unsure:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eck-despite-charging-250-000-opportunity.html
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And each dive weakened the carbon fiber a bit. Ocean Gate was warned about that many times.
 

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