Racism

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StarSong said:
Depends what time period, region of the country (presume you're referring to the US), and age group you're asking about.
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I would imagine that's a fair assessment

I no longer know
I live in the sticks
where humanness is the primary challenge
 

I honestly don't know.

It seems to bubble up more often these days.

I will say that I would rather deal with an upfront in your face racist than a pleasant acting smiler that quietly practices racism in a behind the scenes sort of way.
 
No, not with as many problems that go on today. What is a "racist"? Like the word "discrimination", the word "racist" is thrown around all over the place for different reasons and opinions. Seems to me that the only race that complains about racism is Blacks towards Whites and law enforcement. Wonder how Blacks get along with Black officers? I would guess, not to well.

People in general "want what they want" and will yell "discrimination" or "racism" to get it.
 
I think the "racist" tag (a long with labels in general), is thrown around too loosely these days and that seems to make problems worse than they really are. Seems any negative comment made towards a person of a different race is labeled with the racism tag whether race is actually mentioned or not. That being said, I know that racism is ever present and it's a shame that anyone has to deal with it.There's a very simple rule I follow no matter who I'm dealing with: "treat others as you would want to be treated". It seems to work pretty good for the most part.

I think that social media makes everything seem bigger than it really is because it's so easy to get the word out to the masses these days.
 
"Racism" is, and has always been, part of the Human existence. It is only somewhat natural for those of similar ethnicity to prefer members of their own race, and feel that they are somewhat superior to others. The problems occur when those thoughts become extreme, and overt measures are taken against others who are Not of a given race. In today's world, it seems that only the Whites are racist...if one listens to the often biased news reports....however, it is often the actions of those being targeted...with their "confrontational" attitudes, and propensity for engaging in criminal activities...that reinforce so much of the bias that exists today.
 
Don M. said:
"Racism" is, and has always been, part of the Human existence. It is only somewhat natural for those of similar ethnicity to prefer members of their own race, and feel that they are somewhat superior to others. The problems occur when those thoughts become extreme, and overt measures are taken against others who are Not of a given race. In today's world, it seems that only the Whites are racist...if one listens to the often biased news reports....however, it is often the actions of those being targeted...with their "confrontational" attitudes, and propensity for engaging in criminal activities...that reinforce so much of the bias that exists today.
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I beg to differ and will adamantly say this in total nonsense, but, only if one has a small window from which they view the world could they see things this way. People are targeted on a daily basis for nothing more than just living their lives, walking down the street going to the store, sitting on steps outside a families house or just trying to enjoy a day at their own apartment's pool. Nothing about these people are perpetuating anything, it's in the minds of the bigoted people who continue to cause such issues and anger individuals who want nothing more to enjoy the same rights as everyone else.

Lets see how anyone would feel if these things were to happen to them on a daily basis

Watch the officer talk his way out of this one

Calling police for being at pool, there's more details in the second video showing just how this guy really acted lying for his reasons.

skip to around 3:35 The lady had a pool card, what more do you need.

Yes he's belligerent, but, you need to understand why. After you continually have people harass you for being places that make them uncomfortable because of your color, you start to get angry especially when you are at your on living surroundings. I already know some will defend the actions of the people demanding this guy prove he belongs, but why should we as a people keep having to defend our presence. Stop with the excuses based on what you see others do on the news. We're not all the same just like not all white people are neo nazis, white nationalist what if we all made such assumptions.


I have more videos to post when I get back from the store if you want to see them
 
I agree with Don M. as well.

Now, April T., do we want to discuss how many law enforcement officers have been ambushed or killed in general?

Actually, finding out the entire story of each of your video's would be much more beneficial. Just like when a bystander starts videoing an officer dealing with a suspect. The bystander doesn't get on the video what the suspect did to make the officer do what they had to do, but no, many people only want to see the part of the video of what the cop did.

Wife and I are very much advocates of law enforcement. They have a job to do and want to be alive and go home after their shift is over.
 
We are talking about racism existing and how it affects normal citizens, but as usual the typical response is to equate all black people with the criminal eliment. Bigots never disappoint. None of these response surprised me some just can't help what they truly feel about other ethnic groups it's just too engrained in their subconscious. On my phone.
 
Racism is taught. Babies don't care about the color of the skin of their playmate, they only care if they play nice. A child growing up in a racist home will probably be a racist as an adult. I think a couple of generations down the road, we will see much less racism in the U.S. because more young people are seeing it for what it is - wrong,

I also think that as more people are doing DNA testing, they are realizing that there are few of us whose ancestry is 'pure' anything. We're all mutts to some degree.
 
Oh another thing my post wasn't specific to police, I know how hard most of them work, I have family who work in like law enforcement. I've also worked in an office along side them. The ones I knew were remarkable human beings. If not for the criminal element that passed through the doors I might have stayed in the job. I couldn't ever do what they do on a daily basis. I have great respect for law enforcement. I do however know earn the honor of the badge
 
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gennie said:
Racism is taught. Babies don't care about the color of the skin of their playmate, they only care if they play nice. A child growing up in a racist home will probably be a racist as an adult. I think a couple of generations down the road, we will see much less racism in the U.S. because more young people are seeing it for what it is - wrong,

I also think that as more people are doing DNA testing, they are realizing that there are few of us whose ancestry is 'pure' anything. We're all mutts to some degree.
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Racism may be taught, but it also may be learned or acquired due to life experience. Don't make broad assumptions.
 
squatting dog said:
AprilT, I'm sure that I could scour the internet and post lot's of videos showing the reverse, but if I did, I'm sure I'd be labeled a racist.
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reverse of what, black people telling white people to leave the pool area? Black people calling the cops on white people, really? The thread is about racism, but you and others seem bent on some point about the criminal element as if that is the majority of the who black people are.

Does racism exist is the question, not are there people of color who commit crimes, there are people who commit crimes black, white and everything in between, I would be able to raise you as many non-minorities as you could raise the opposite of crimes committed by individuals, but that wasn't the point of the videos I posted. As I said, some just can't see beyond their own prejudices. You went right to crimes committed to make excuses for minorities being targeted for racism. Not a good reason, just a bigoted person's reason.

And don't blame me, I don't typically start threads about issues of this sort, as I know it's almost pointless for me to talk with some people of a certain age about such matters due to their views dating way back. Many from an era of deep racism and deep hate towards other races didn't all just disappear; I'm sure many such people are on senior boards just like any one of the rest of us. As can be by people here who like to keep posting certain nonsense and have since the day I first came here. I remember a member making some post about black young men carrying guns and some crazy foolishness saying they were all like that. I'll never forget it, but I'd have to research to find the exact post and what he said and obviously years later he's still pushing similar views.
 
So, what happens when a black person absolutely resists an officer? Then, the white officer has to go to the next step to subdue the black person and, during the whole thing, the black person is calling the officer a "racist" who hates blacks. If there would have been one word, "cooperation" every thing would have been fine.

Black people that live around us get stunned when we tell them we listen to Motown music and have movies with black stars in them, like The Shack. Heck, one of our favorite tv shows, that ended up cancelled, was The Carmichaels. Not the area we live in, but the rest of Jacksonville, FL sure has it's black-on-black crime.

My brother doesn't like people from India and didn't have a problem telling me that. My wife's girlfriend's husband doesn't like being around blacks that much, because the park in Detroit that he went to as a young man, black drug dealers and such took over. "They destroyed my beautiful park", he told wife and I.

We've talked to both blacks and Indians that live in our apartment complex. They were/are very, very nice folks, unlike the gangs in certain parts of this city. When we go to our local Waffle House for breakfast, there is one very, very nice older black waitress we always want to wait on our table. The lady is a terrific waitress.
 
ClassicRockr said:
So, what happens when a black person absolutely resists an officer? Then, the white officer has to go to the next step to subdue the black person and, during the whole thing, the black person is calling the officer a "racist" who hates blacks. If there would have been one word, "cooperation" every thing would have been fine.

Black people that live around us get stunned when we tell them we listen to Motown music and have movies with black stars in them, like The Shack. Heck, one of our favorite tv shows, that ended up cancelled, was The Carmichaels. Not the area we live in, but the rest of Jacksonville, FL sure has it's black-on-black crime.

My brother doesn't like people from India and didn't have a problem telling me that. My wife's girlfriend's husband doesn't like being around blacks that much, because the park in Detroit that he went to as a young man, black drug dealers and such took over. "They destroyed my beautiful park", he told wife and I.

We've talked to both blacks and Indians that live in our apartment complex. They were/are very, very nice folks, unlike the gangs in certain parts of this city. When we go to our local Waffle House for breakfast, there is one very, very nice older black waitress we always want to wait on our table. The lady is a terrific waitress.
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You are fixated on a topic other than what this thread isn't about that is racism. You seem to want to talk about blacks and crime; If you want to talk about your disdain for blacks, as you have done so in the past and also discuss those who act out against officers who go to arrest people behaving badly why not start you little happy thread, I'm sure you'll get lots of hits. Be sure to include lots of racist remarks and videos so I can counter with non-minorities behaving just as outraged.

And good grief, get over yourself, obviously you know some black people who aren't used to diversity as you aren't, big deal. Years ago I went to a party with a group, one lady was a member of that tea party movement, she was stunned to see me jump out of my set to dance to certain songs she didn't expect any black people liked or I guess new existed, another guy on a forum was shocked to know there were black women who enjoyed rock, his words to me. Big deal, people are sometimes out of touch with reality or just have very limited exposure to how different people out there are and based everything on the few people they come across in a particular location.

I don't have a need to point out that there's this one, Italian, Asian, Irish, Armenian or other person who is nice, when I talk about my friends I don't specify their ethnicity, nor do I specify that of the people I've dated, gone out to dinner with, camped with or anything else, I don't feel the need, why do some others feel a need to say well there's one nice black person I met. Whooptie freckin deal it shows me the person is lacking something when they continually have to make such points. If most of your experiences have been negative encounters, that's not my fault nor a reason to group all people in a category. Stop labeling/grouping all people as a monolithic group.
 
There is no valid way to quantify this issue.

My personal experience has taught me that it is very much a two way street.
 

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