Renters... Blahh

People are outraged at the number of homeless, but how many of them are homeless because this is how they treat a property? This shows the other side of the problem.
 
I'd say they sure made a mess of it and feel sorry for whoever has to clean it all up. I've heard so many stories about renters in the past and have also seen what some do. Thanks goodness not all of us renters are that way!
 

We had the same issue with the house we bought... and it was their great grand kids that trashed the place out...
Then their pissed at us for "STEALING" it after they let the bank foreclose on it....
 
Pepper said:
Why do you think the renters didn't report a leak, so that the landlord could fix it on his dime?
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Perhaps because they didn't want the owner to see what a mess the place was in?
We owned a house that was rented out. What a mess, the master bathroom shower was filled with trash and I can't tell you what a rehab job was needed to sell it!
 
Murrmurr said:
Very true. I've always rented, just never liked the thought of having to stay in one location longer than I might want to. I always left these places in great shape even going so far as to mow the yards, fill nail holes, and wash all the windows, because while I was there, it was my home and I loved it. I never got the whole deposit back but I understood the owners probably painted the interior and shampooed the carpets. But this one guy refunded me a check for $11.42 (out of $1000) attached to an itemized list, charging me ridiculous prices for every single nail and screw, every glove, sponge, and bottle of 409. He charged me over $100 for new drapes even though none of the windows had drapes on them when we moved in. Not one. The livingroom window did have an old Holly Hobby sheet hanging on it, though (which I replaced). Maybe he upgraded to a DC Comics one. Anyway, I sent the check back to him with a note that said "You forgot to overcharge me for the postage stamp."
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You definitely have the right mindset for such, and I commend you for being able to let it all go.
 
Squatting Dog. What's your take (opinion) on renters and damage deposits?

$10,000 (too much) for a damage deposit?
$20,000 (too much) for a damage deposit?

How much is ones home or investment property worth that they are looking to rent out, would be my first question to someone looking to rent-out an available property.

My next question to someone looking to rent-out a property would be, what is your home or rental property worth to you.

Speaking for myself, renting to anyone is out (plain and simple), not an option, never has been an option, never will be an option, however, if I were looking to rent out, you can bet your bottom dollar a perspective renter looking to rent a property of mine would pay through the nose, and not just once but twice.

Once with the deposit which would be in the five-figures, and again each month to cover their rent.

I would also do monthly, if not weekly check-ins, and failing my standards, renters would be out! Not now but right now.

Seems a vast number of people who rent out to others are slow learners from all that I see.
 
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Jules said:
@Murrmurr, donā€™t you have a Landlord/Tenant government board that will fight for either side?
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We can take our complaints to civil court where it's cheap (sometimes free) and easy to file a complaint and get a hearing before a judge, but I was leaving the state so I just said screw it.

I did take a landlord to court once. I'd moved out of an apartment he owned on the 15th of a month even though I'd paid rent to the 30th. I left the place ready-to-rent, but left earlier than he expected so I called him like 5 times but he never answered so I left a voice message (no smartphones back then) each time. Well the place got broken into by some kids who partied in it and majorly tore it up - ripped up the carpeting, broke all the mirrors, poured glue all over the floor, graffitied the walls, and tried to pry out the AC unit - and the landlord not only refused to refund my deposit, he sent me a tally of the damages and threatened to sue me for it. He lost his case because I had taken pictures before I left (and in the old days, Kodak film time-stamped your photos) plus the neighbor lady testified about the kids partying in there 5 days after I left her my key (to give to the landlord).
 
Liberty said:
Perhaps because they didn't want the owner to see what a mess the place was in?
We owned a house that was rented out. What a mess, the master bathroom shower was filled with trash and I can't tell you what a rehab job was needed to sell it!
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That's my thought. I don't think they wanted him to see that they had torn out all the shower and wall tiles and painted the fixtures a shade of gray for some reason.
 
I had one experience with residential renters and learned my lesson. Never again.

However, I did fine with commercial property renting to reliable businesses.
 
Gary O' said:
Mold.....black mold?
Gotta tear out all/any wood that has the black mold
...and wear a mask when doing it
and be quick about it
That stuff is nasty
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Oh yeah, that stuff is black mold. I already know that there will be studs and floor joists that will have to be replaced. I told his dad that we'll need a giant dumpster brought in and I'll have to strip the house to the bare studs and large chunks of the floor just to ascertain the extent of the damage. :(
 
Aunt Marg said:
Squatting Dog. What's your take (opinion) on renters and damage deposits?

$10,000 (too much) for a damage deposit?
$20,000 (too much) for a damage deposit?

How much is ones home or investment property worth that they are looking to rent out, would be my first question to someone looking to rent-out an available property.

My next question to someone looking to rent-out a property would be, what is your home or rental property worth to you.

Speaking for myself, renting to anyone is out (plain and simple), not an option, never has been an option, never will be an option, however, if I were looking to rent out, you can bet your bottom dollar a perspective renter looking to rent a property of mine would pay through the nose, and not just once but twice.

Once with the deposit which would be in the five-figures, and again each month to cover their rent.

I would also do monthly, if not weekly check-ins, and failing my standards, renters would be out! Not now but right now.

Seems a vast number of people who rent out to others are slow learners from all that I see.
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The problem is you'll never get any sizable deposit from renters. If they had 10-20 to put down, they'd be able to buy a house of their own. (that's around here of course. There are still small houses you can by for 20-30 grand).
As for myself, when my mom was ill and I had to go to Florida to care for her, I had to rent this house out. Big mistake. After I returned, I needed the sheriff to get the crack heads out and it cost me over $20,000 and most of a year to put the house back in livable condition.
I will never rent anything out to anybody again...EVER.
 
My son owned a rental property for over 10 years. He lived about 60 miles away from the rental so he hired a property management agency to deal with finding renters and ...well, managing the property. This agency did monthly inspections while the house was occupied. These were cursory inspections because there are laws about invading people's privacy and whatnot, but they were enough to alert the inspector to any red flags. The agency evicted tenants twice and my son is sure that saved him a ton of time and money for repairs. He paid monthly for their services but he says it was well worth it.
 
squatting dog said:
The problem is you'll never get any sizable deposit from renters. If they had 10-20 to put down, they'd be able to buy a house of their own. (that's around here of course. There are still small houses you can by for 20-30 grand).
As for myself, when my mom was ill and I had to go to Florida to care for her, I had to rent this house out. Big mistake. After I returned, I needed the sheriff to get the crack heads out and it cost me over $20,000 and most of a year to put the house back in livable condition.
I will never rent anything out to anybody again...EVER.
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I'm surprised there isn't more strict laws that protect owners of properties damaged so badly by renters.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I'm surprised there isn't more strict laws that protect owners of properties damaged so badly by renters.
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There's a big fat book titled something like Landlord-Tenant Laws that gets updated and reprinted every few years (give or take) that every rental property owner should read before they rent. The laws do tend to favor the tenants. There's a huge section in that book that's all about squatters. That alone would put me off ever owning a rental property...or even renting a room or having a room mate.
 
Murrmurr said:
There's a big fat book titled something like Landlord-Tenant Laws that gets updated and reprinted every few years (give or take) that every rental property owner should read before they rent. The laws do tend to favor the tenants. There's a huge section in that book that's all about squatters. That alone would put me off ever owning a rental property...or even renting a room or having a room mate.
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I've heard some real horror stories related to squatters, and some I even had a difficult time believing they were so off-the-wall.
 
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