Retired And Applying To Rent An Apartment?

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Not true about it being too expensive to do background checks. There is such a thing as signing up with a Tenant background check company and also with a Credit Check company. Also, if an applicant is really serious, they have no problem with being charged a reasonable background check fee.

A company can hire you on the spot, but keep in mind there is a probation period where after a background check where the new hire can be fired immediately for whatever cause. And I personally called previous employers and also previous landlords. As far as previous landlords, I've had them criticize a previous tenant, for some really dumb reasons, and I've accepted them anyway. I look at the entire person and their background. I've accepted tenants who've had a foreclosure or who had no credit experience at all or whose credit report wasn't that great. Of course, there are lies where there is no way to look that up, and they've become nightmares. There is fiduciary responsibility. I'll bet you wouldn't like it at all if you found out that a violent felon or child molester ended up living next door to you. It didn't escape me that you never answered that question.

I in no way go along with your opinion that lying is perfectly okay if it benefits you personally. Times that but hundreds, thousands, or even millions of people doing the same. What kind of world would you prefer to live in?
 
Butterfly said:
You clearly believe that the end justifies the means. People who are honest and have true integrity do NOT leave such things outside the door.
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Perhaps you don't, but there are many, many others that do...…..because they have to. It's not really a choice when something is needed. We aren't what some would call "dishonest" anymore. We have a totally valid credit card that has the name of a business (our business) on it and we can use that, if need be.
 
I think that the forum just hit a new low with this thread. Of course that's only my opinion.

Is this the lesson to impart to our kids and grandkids. How we lied and cheated our way through life with the only concern being whether we would be caught or not. incredible.
 
Olivia said:
Not true about it being too expensive to do background checks. There is such a thing as signing up with a Tenant background check company and also with a Credit Check company. Also, if an applicant is really serious, they have no problem with being charged a reasonable background check fee.

A company can hire you on the spot, but keep in mind there is a probation period where after a background check where the new hire can be fired immediately for whatever cause. And I personally called previous employers and also previous landlords. As far as previous landlords, I've had them criticize a previous tenant, for some really dumb reasons, and I've accepted them anyway. I look at the entire person and their background. I've accepted tenants who've had a foreclosure or who had no credit experience at all or whose credit report wasn't that great. Of course, there are lies where there is no way to look that up, and they've become nightmares. There is fiduciary responsibility. I'll bet you wouldn't like it at all if you found out that a violent felon or child molester ended up living next door to you. It didn't escape me that you never answered that question.

I in no way go along with your opinion that lying is perfectly okay if it benefits you personally. Times that but hundreds, thousands, or even millions of people doing the same. What kind of world would you prefer to live in?
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Never had a problem passing probation, even with wrong dates of employment on app.

As far as a next door neighbor goes, I found out, from our complex manager, that a possible new tenant can't be told, when asked the question to a leasing person, who lives in the complex or next door to the apartment a new tenant wants.

I can really see that my thread has gone in a different direction. All of the folks on here have their own personalities. Some people have to do what they have to do to survive. If that includes stretching the truth, so be it.

If a person gets lucky, when a company fires them, they will state that the person was "laid-off" so the person can get UI. I've had that happen before and so has my wife. With a company stating that, the person doesn't have to write "fired" on the Reason For Leaving area, they put Laid-Off.
 
DaveA said:
I think that the forum just hit a new low with this thread. Of course that's only my opinion.

Is this the lesson to impart to our kids and grandkids. How we lied and cheated our way through life with the only concern being whether we would be caught or not. incredible.
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Wife and I don't have to worry about kids or grandkids. Anyway, we all blame those same kids for all the drugs that kids use today, yet how bad was the drug situation at Woodstock and in Vietnam? There was all kinds of drugs, from LSD to heroin, to mj, to coke and on and on...…...back in the 60's and 70's. One thing for sure, the Baby Boomer generation wasn't nearly as "Angel" like as we appear to be today.
 
You definitely have a talent for taking what someone says and twisting it to make it look like in your favor. I've dealt with smooth talkers before. I'm done with this thread.
 
ClassicRockr said:
Perhaps you don't, but there are many, many others that do...…..because they have to. It's not really a choice when something is needed. We aren't what some would call "dishonest" anymore. We have a totally valid credit card that has the name of a business (our business) on it and we can use that, if need be.
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Like I said earlier in this thread and you didn't understand, "People usually end up living the life they've earned". What I meant by that is if you've made a life of lying and being deceitful to get what you want or need and think that's normal, then you end up living with other people who do the same. You can never really trust anyone and you're probably always looking over your shoulder. Most of all you'll never really achieve anything of great value in life living that way. Your life is spent living in average to below average apartments, driving average to below average vehicles, etc etc. I've seen this enough with people like that to know it holds true. Life is set up to reward people with what they've put into it. You usually get out what you've put in. If that's the life you're comfortable with, all the power to you.
 
JimW said:
Like I said earlier in this thread and you didn't understand, "People usually end up living the life they've earned". What I meant by that is if you've made a life of lying and being deceitful to get what you want or need and think that's normal, then you end up living with other people who do the same. You can never really trust anyone and you're probably always looking over your shoulder. Most of all you'll never really achieve anything of great value in life living that way. Your life is spent living in average to below average apartments, driving average to below average vehicles, etc etc. I've seen this enough with people like that to know it holds true. Life is set up to reward people with what they've put into it. You usually get out what you've put in. If that's the life you're comfortable with, all the power to you.
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So, this means that everyone on this forum never ever told a lie and have always been honest with everyone??

I haven’t spent my entire life doing this, just when I really thought I needed to.

I have lived in nice, even brand new, apartments. Our last apartment was brand new, never been lived in. We bought a 2005 Dodge Durango in 2005....three months old. Bought a nice house that was only a few years old, but did end up selling it.

Why on earth would you think that a person who has fibbed some in life, couldn’t live a descent life?
 
Funny, my wife really didn’t like me disclosing a couple of things in this thread, but did wonder why everyone was acting like “Angels” on this. “None of them have ever lied about something in their entire life?” she asked me. “Guess not” I laughed.
 
ClassicRockr said:
So, this means that everyone on this forum never ever told a lie and have always been honest with everyone??

I haven’t spent my entire life doing this, just when I really thought I needed to.

I have lived in nice, even brand new, apartments. Our last apartment was brand new, never been lived in. We bought a 2005 Dodge Durango in 2005....three months old. Bought a nice house that was only a few years old, but did end up selling it.

Why on earth would you think that a person who has fibbed some in life, couldn’t live a descent life?
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What you consider to be a decent life and I consider to be a decent life are two different things. Having to lie on an apartment application when I'm retired doesn't quite make my top ten list of what constitutes a decent life. Like I said, if you're happy with it (and you obviously are) all the power to you.
 
Where's "here" CR? I thought you still lived in Colorado (?!) I wondered the same thing. A couple of years ago, I seriously considered moving to a senior building and letting my son's ex (my honorary daughter) and my two (youngest) grandchildren take this apartment. One reason is because she had several illnesses that caused her to be in and out of the hospital, thus losing time from work so was having a hard time keeping up with her rent, which was about three times what it costs to live here. I found out that applications for senior apartments ask too many personal questions about your financial business, ostensibly to determine who would be eligible for rent assistance. They also asked for the SS #. I never would be willing to have that on the same forms with my financial information. When I went to one office to pick up an application, I noticed their file cabinet wasn't even locked.

Blessedly, my Hon. daughter found a job with the city that has good benefits and time off. Her health also improved. She decided she needed more room than this apartment has, so I didn't have to go through filling out the applications. Seniors in this area have to wait up to 4 years for an apartment. Every apartment rental office manager I called said wait time was a minimum of 2 years! Public housing may have less wait time but I understand their list is very long as well.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Where's "here" CR? I thought you still lived in Colorado (?!) I wondered the same thing. A couple of years ago, I seriously considered moving to a senior building and letting my son's ex (my honorary daughter) and my two (youngest) grandchildren take this apartment. One reason is because she had several illnesses that caused her to be in and out of the hospital, thus losing time from work so was having a hard time keeping up with her rent, which was about three times what it costs to live here. I found out that applications for senior apartments ask too many personal questions about your financial business, ostensibly to determine who would be eligible for rent assistance. They also asked for the SS #. I never would be willing to have that on the same forms with my financial information. When I went to one office to pick up an application, I noticed their file cabinet wasn't even locked.

Blessedly, my Hon. daughter found a job with the city that has good benefits and time off. Her health also improved. She decided she needed more room than this apartment has, so I didn't have to go through filling out the applications. Seniors in this area have to wait up to 4 years for an apartment. Every apartment rental office manager I called said wait time was a minimum of 2 years! Public housing may have less wait time but I understand their list is very long as well.
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We left Colorado in Oct 2007, but now making plans on returning, but to a different area (northern part). Or, possibly to Cheyenne, Wyoming.
 
mitchezz said:
Trouble is once you admit/are caught out in a lie people start to wonder what other lies you've told.
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Actually, nobody’s business on this forum.
Anyway, wonder why so many here act like they’ve never/ever lied in their entire life.......yea, right!😏
 
ClassicRockr said:
Actually, nobody’s business on this forum.
Anyway, wonder why so many here act like they’ve never/ever lied in their entire life.......yea, right!��
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Oh, puhleeze.
If it's nobody's business on this forum why did you volunteer the information "on this forum"? Then you get all defensive. :rolleyes:

Whether or not others have lied at some point in their lives is not the issue.
 
applecruncher said:
Oh, puhleeze.
If it's nobody's business on this forum why did you volunteer the information "on this forum"? Then you get all defensive. :rolleyes:

Whether or not others have lied at some point in their lives is not the issue.
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Whatever!
Looks like I’m going to leave this forum as well. Then I won’t get picked on anymore, which will make wife and I much, much happier.

Bye everyone!
 
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