Rich NYC Art Dealer Leaves Entire Estate To A Deli Employee

WhatInThe said:
Yep, I think too many think since the parents helped them out financially earleir in life they felt they would also be 'helped' again at the end of theirs. This is why a parent has to be very careful with what ever financial aid they give an adult child. It's extremely easy to create a sense of entitlement or enable a greedy self centered person. I've seen it our family. Those that got the most financial aid early in their adult life wind up being the problem ones.
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You said it better than I ever could, WhatInThe!

The old saying, "much wants more" rings so try.
 

StarSong said:
Cannot imagine that this won't be tied up in courts for years and eventually overturned. Undue influence and all that.
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Undue influence is awfully hard (almost impossible) to prove in a case with a competent testator and a properly written and executed will. People do have the right to leave their estate to whomever they choose and are not legally obligated to leave it to their family or presumed heirs; the will just has to be written in a way to indicate that you are aware of your heirs at law and, in some states, leaving them $1 or other token amount.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I don't know how it works in the USofA, but here in Canada, a will is a will, and so long as all has been signed, stamped, and executed properly, contesting such a will is futile.
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Not here, it will be contested unless those relatives are rich as well.
 

Since I can’t read the article, does it imply that perhaps it was a romantic relationship with the man.

I expect changing a will 9 days prior to his death will be questioned. Was he of sound mind? Was he coerced?

Aunt Marg said:
I don't know how it works in the USofA, but here in Canada, a will is a will, and so long as all has been signed, stamped, and executed properly, contesting such a will is futile.
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Wills can be contested here. Rare, but it does happen. Your medical aid is supposed to be exempt from being the beneficiary.
 
Jules said:
Since I can’t read the article, does it imply that perhaps it was a romantic relationship with the man.

I expect changing a will 9 days prior to his death will be questioned. Was he of sound mind? Was he coerced?


Wills can be contested here. Rare, but it does happen. Your medical aid is supposed to be exempt from being the beneficiary.
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Jules, he died from a fall.
 
Jules said:
Since I can’t read the article, does it imply that perhaps it was a romantic relationship with the man.

I expect changing a will 9 days prior to his death will be questioned. Was he of sound mind? Was he coerced?


Wills can be contested here. Rare, but it does happen. Your medical aid is supposed to be exempt from being the beneficiary.
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I lived through the contesting of a will of a great aunt of mine, and the people doing the contesting got nowhere.

They achieved nothing just as they deserved.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I lived through the contesting of a will of a great aunt of mine, and the people doing the contesting got nowhere.

They achieved nothing just as they deserved.
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My mother, who has nothing and lives in low income government housing, has a will 50% to me, 50% to my brother. In the beginning my brother said, you can have all her jewelry. As time went by, he said you don’t wear jewelry so my daughter can have her jewelry. Although I have a daughter who does where jewelry, but alrighty then.

Last year mother said she had started giving her jewelry away to her workers. I let my brother know. He said it’s all costume jewelry, which meant he already had the limited amount of her “good stuff”. Alrighty then. Although she has great granddaughters who she’s never given a thing.

Then my brother said when she dies, he will have a crew come in and throw everything away. Wait, I said. She has pictures of me and family pictures. I want those pictures. He will try and get them he says. Alrighty then. He won’t.

So, I sent him an email saying he can have it all. All her bits and pieces, but she has my high school graduation picture and I’d like that. We shall see. Doubt I’ll get it. He has money, he married rich. His son is a millionaire. They don’t help their daughter, he does not help his sister.

Such a lovely family. 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
Aneeda72 said:
My mother, who has nothing and lives in low income government housing, has a will 50% to me, 50% to my brother. In the beginning my brother said, you can have all her jewelry. As time went by, he said you don’t wear jewelry so my daughter can have her jewelry. Although I have a daughter who does where jewelry, but alrighty then.

Last year mother said she had started giving her jewelry away to her workers. I let my brother know. He said it’s all costume jewelry, which meant he already had the limited amount of her “good stuff”. Alrighty then. Although she has great granddaughters who she’s never given a thing.

Then my brother said when she dies, he will have a crew come in and throw everything away. Wait, I said. She has pictures of me and family pictures. I want those pictures. He will try and get them he says. Alrighty then. He won’t.

So, I sent him an email saying he can have it all. All her bits and pieces, but she has my high school graduation picture and I’d like that. We shall see. Doubt I’ll get it. He has money, he married rich. His son is a millionaire. They don’t help their daughter, he does not help his sister.

Such a lovely family. 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Who is the executor of your mothers will?

I would not rollover to such. Stand your ground and if need be, contest any/all that you feel necessary.

If there is certain things of yours moms that you would like to have, let her know about it now.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Who is the executor of your mothers will?

I would not rollover to such. Stand your ground and if need be, contest any/all that you feel necessary.

If there is certain things of yours moms that you would like to have, let her know about it now.
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My brother, of course, and I asked for the picture, nope. She has nothing I want but those pictures. If she had money, I would not take it.
 
I read this earlier on my news app. Where was said family when this man was in need? I know some live abroad but did any of them try to come and help him in his time of need? I wonder if they bothered to call. Inheritance issues often bring out real nastiness in families after someone passes. The family is not satisfied with what Mr. Yeje offered them...greedy folks. He really didn't have to offer anything. It will be interesting to see who prevails in the case.
 
Aunt Marg said:
You're not asking for the world, I would stand your ground and contest the will.
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It's not that simple. It may cost more than it's worth - with no guarantee.
My legal fees for the probate case and the other property were $133,000.00.
If there wasn't so much value involved, I wouldn't have bothered because it wouldn't be worth it.
You have to consider the cost before doing anything that requires an attorney. "Contesting a will can run $400.00/hr. & that doesn't include filing fees, court appearances, or a trial & appeals.
And, my attorney charged $160.00 - $200.00 for each phone call & e-mail, (whether she made them or not, because she knows I have no way of verifying the time or even if she made them.) She also tried to charge me for parking, gas & meals at the courthouse - until I refused to pay them.

Remember why most attorneys wanted to become attorneys.....
 
win231 said:
It's not that simple. It may cost more than it's worth - with no guarantee.
My legal fees for the probate case and the other property were $133,000.00.
If there wasn't so much value involved, I wouldn't have bothered because it wouldn't be worth it.
You have to consider the cost before doing anything that requires an attorney. "Contesting a will can run $400.00/hr. & that doesn't include filing fees, court appearances, or a trial & appeals.
And, my attorney charged $160.00 - $200.00 for each phone call & e-mail, (whether she made them or not, because she knows I have no way of verifying the time or even if she made them.) She also tried to charge me for parking, gas & meals at the courthouse - until I refused to pay them.

Remember why most attorneys wanted to become attorneys.....
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Yup which is why I would not sue my brother plus he is my brother. I only want a picture. He will give it to me or throw it away. Whatever. I am not greedy and care little for things without a personal connection. I have done without that picture my whole life, I only want it for my children.

When my half sister offered to leave me some money in her will. I refused. She has a daughter who has a son. They should get that money.
 
Aunt Marg said:
All I can think of, is his family were rubbing their hands together in anticipation of riches coming their way, so when, Mr. Zarre, purchased the deli business, all the family seen was depleted cash-money in their pockets, hence their displeasure and concern over the purchase.

One thing I learned, you really get to know what family members are truly made of when it comes to settling estates and wills.
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Benjamin Franklin said it best-"To know the true nature of a person, inherit with them"
Then there was Robert Heinlein-"Money is truthful-if a man speaks to you of his honor, make him pay cash"
 
Aneeda72 said:
Yup which is why I would not sue my brother plus he is my brother. I only want a picture. He will give it to me or throw it away. Whatever. I am not greedy and care little for things without a personal connection. I have done without that picture my whole life, I only want it for my children.

When my half sister offered to leave me some money in her will. I refused. She has a daughter who has a son. They should get that money.
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Keep in mind that when someone wants to leave you money or valuables in their will, you can just take them & give them to anyone you want when the time comes; you're not legally obligated to keep them.
I did that with my mom's jewelry. I gave my 1/3rd to my niece.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Not here, it will be contested unless those relatives are rich as well.
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There's a big difference between contesting a will and actually succeeding at getting a will set aside. It costs a fortune and almost never succeeds, as long as the will was properly drawn and executed. We all do, after all, have the right to say what happens to our money and whatever else upon our death. Otherwise, what's the point of a will?
 
win231 said:
It's not that simple. It may cost more than it's worth - with no guarantee.
My legal fees for the probate case and the other property were $133,000.00.
If there wasn't so much value involved, I wouldn't have bothered because it wouldn't be worth it.
You have to consider the cost before doing anything that requires an attorney. "Contesting a will can run $400.00/hr. & that doesn't include filing fees, court appearances, or a trial & appeals.
And, my attorney charged $160.00 - $200.00 for each phone call & e-mail, (whether she made them or not, because she knows I have no way of verifying the time or even if she made them.) She also tried to charge me for parking, gas & meals at the courthouse - until I refused to pay them.

Remember why most attorneys wanted to become attorneys.....
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I am quite literally speechless...
 
StarSong said:
I'd think the care giver status will factor in. Surely the family will be able to engage a law firm to take the case on contingency.
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I've never seen attorneys take will disputes on a contingency. At least no firm I ever worked for would have. Too small a chance of winning, unless grandpa died 3 days before the alleged will was executed or something like that. After all, dear old Grandpa does have the right to leave his billions to some sweet young thing who held his hand whilst he shuffled off this mortal coil, or for no reason at all.
 

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