RIP Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh

Laurie said:
My heartfelt sympathies to the Queen, who loved him dearly, let's not go over the top.

When his uncle, Louis, told him to fix his interest with the then Princess Elizabeth she was thirteen! Such a man would have been regarded with distaste in most naval wardrooms of the day, as indeed he would today.
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Lord Mountbatten had his own ambitions and tried to use Prince Philip to achieve them.
 
I may be an American, Texan at that but I have a lot of empathy towards most people; the royal couple being a favorite of mine. I know their love was true; it was so very obvious from the beginning. I love reading about them. May God bless Queen Elizabeth and their family during this most difficult time.
 
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PamfromTx said:
I may be an American, Texan at that but I have a lot of empathy towards most people; the royal couple being a favorite of mine. I know their love was true; it was so very obvious from the beginning. I love reading about them. May God bless Queen Elizabeth and their family during this most difficult time.
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Yes, it has to be said that the queen has been extremely lucky personally. Born into a loving family, having all the luxuries and privileges that went with it, falling in love with just the right person and having his love and support all this time.
 
The annual Trooping the Colour parade in 2009.

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hollydolly said:
OFGS...absolute nonsense.... Mountbatten may well have wanted his nephew to hook up with the princess but in actual fact Mountbatten wanted Philip to marry his own daughter as well ...Philip had no fixation on the Queen at that age in fact if anything it was the other way around.. , but PP didn't react to her childhood crush..of course he didn't.. he carried on his dalliance with older girls, while continuing with his Naval career...until Elizabeth was old enough, by which time she'd been sending him letters while he was at sea.
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Study your history books and archived documentaries..

I have lived through these events and my opinions were formed contemporaneously.

Battenberg wanted to counter the influences of Albert's Saxe Coburg descendants in the royal noses of Europe. The current Kaiser, Georg, Prince of Prussia, is Saxe Coburg, as is Prince Nikolai, Czar of All the Russias. The rest are mostly sewn up between the Bourbons and the Hapsburgs.

You might disagree with my opinions but it doesn't make them rubbish!
 
Laurie said:
Study your history books and archived documentaries..

I have lived through these events and my opinions were formed contemporaneously.

Battenberg wanted to counter the influences of Albert's Saxe Coburg descendants in the royal noses of Europe. The current Kaiser, Georg, Prince of Prussia, is Saxe Coburg, as is Prince Nikolai, Czar of All the Russias. The rest are mostly sewn up between the Bourbons and the Hapsburgs.

You might disagree with my opinions but it doesn't make them rubbish!
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I'm not going to argue with you Laurie, you've inferred that Philip had an interest in under-age girls or in this case girl.. by your post, to further his career or status, and that is rubbish whichever historical book you want to look at ...
 
Laurie said:
Study your history books and archived documentaries..

I have lived through these events and my opinions were formed contemporaneously.

Battenberg wanted to counter the influences of Albert's Saxe Coburg descendants in the royal noses of Europe. The current Kaiser, Georg, Prince of Prussia, is Saxe Coburg, as is Prince Nikolai, Czar of All the Russias. The rest are mostly sewn up between the Bourbons and the Hapsburgs.

You might disagree with my opinions but it doesn't make them rubbish!
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You have no facts...Princess Elizabeth was 13 years of age when she first noticed Philip. He was seventeen just going on 18. She was the one later on down the track who showed an interest in him...she fell in love and he felt the same attraction. I don't know what you are getting at, but you ought to revisit the history books.
 
Laurie said:
My heartfelt sympathies to the Queen, who loved him dearly, let's not go over the top.

When his uncle, Louis, told him to fix his interest with the then Princess Elizabeth she was thirteen! Such a man would have been regarded with distaste in most naval wardrooms of the day, as indeed he would today.
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I have no idea if the uncle told him that, but even as American, I have sense enough to know it wasn't meant to suggest sexual involvement with a thirteen year old as your last sentence implies. It would've been meant consider marriage with her as advantageous in a few years. People of that class and generation (and time out of mind before that in many cultures throughout the history of humans) started thinking of matchmaking shortly after the birth of offspring. Still do in a lot of cultures.

And as Dana said above, I've read that she did notice him at thirteen. Having been a thirteen year old girl during one year of my life, I can assure you that a young Prince Philip would've caught my eye at that age. Girls in our day are no longer considered to be mature enough for reproduction at thirteen as females have been throughout much of the world's history, but certainly do develop romantic crushes.

Elizabeth didn't have a lot of choices for a spouse. I'm so thankful for her that there was an eligible, dashing young prince to love her and be the rock for her that he proved to be through the years.
 
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hollydolly said:
I'm not going to argue with you Laurie, you've inferred that Philip had an interest in under-age girls or in this case girl.. by your post, to further his career or status, and that is rubbish whichever historical book you want to look at ...
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I said, nor did I mean to imply, any such thing, and I have never heard a shred of evidence to suggest it.

It had nothing to do with his career, which was going quite well and was curtailed by his marriage. Many, myself included, believe he would have made First Sea Lord.

He was given his duty by the head of his house, an ancient European Royal House, and he did it.

That's what people of a certain class do, call it noblesse oblige, ancien regime or what you will.
 
I watched "The Crown" and, yes, I know some things were changed for the sake of the drama, but if the relationship between Prince Philip and the Queen was even have as loving as shown -- then they had a wonderful marriage. My favorite episode, watched over and over, was the one about young Philip at a really rough boys school in Scotland. Even then his courage and determination were amazing.
 
Della said:
I watched "The Crown" and, yes, I know some things were changed for the sake of the drama, but if the relationship between Prince Philip and the Queen was even have as loving as shown -- then they had a wonderful marriage. My favorite episode, watched over and over, was the one about young Philip at a really rough boys school in Scotland. Even then his courage and determination were amazing.
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LOL...that was Gordonstoun, a rough but very expensive boys school
 
Yes, its name is Gordonstoun. Students made to run barefoot in freezing weather, take ice cold showers, and in young Philip's case, sleep under a broken window that let the rain come in. It did eventually become Philip's "family" after most of his real one died in a plane crash.
 
Della said:
Yes, its name is Gordonstoun. Students made to run barefoot in freezing weather, take ice cold showers, and in young Philip's case, sleep under a broken window that let the rain come in. It did eventually become Philip's "family" after most of his real one died in a plane crash.
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yes..Gordonstoun is a well known schoolin my country Scotland, turns out well adjusted educated people...Prince Charles hated it , too rough for him
 
Back in my later school days, I was friendly with a chap who had attended Gordonstoun school at the same time as Charles.
He said that Charles, like his family, was very keen on horse racing, but being unable to go to the bookies himself, used to get some of the senior boys go place bets for him.

I gather that if you get sent to prison, time at Gordonstoun is counted against your sentence. :LOL::LOL:
 
Capt Lightning said:
Back in my later school days, I was friendly with a chap who had attended Gordonstoun school at the same time as Charles.
He said that Charles, like his family, was very keen on horse racing, but being unable to go to the bookies himself, used to get some of the senior boys go place bets for him.

I gather that if you get sent to prison, time at Gordonstoun is counted against your sentence. :LOL::LOL:
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David Bowie and Sean Connery both sent their sons there too
 
hollydolly said:
Yes me too..I was infuriated when I saw it...

''Thank you for your service''....

Thank you for your service?...this is your grandfather you ungrateful spoiled little oink....
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I was thinking along those lines too but not living in Britain was trying to stay as neutral as possible. Though I do have dual Swedish/British or British/Swedish (whichever way you want to look at it) nationality
 
hollydolly said:
...that was Gordonstoun, a rough but very expensive boys school
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What I found interesting about Gordonstoun school is that Philip was at the founding headmaster's--Kurt Hahn's--German school before Hahn had to flee Germany because he was Jewish. Philip had already taken a stand against early Jewish persecution as a young teen while at school in Germany. This was in spite of the fact that his older sisters were all either members of the up and coming Nazi Party and/or were married to Party members. When war came, he fought against his sibling's husbands.
 

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