You have stuck my "I agree" to what I posted in another post making me think I agree with the one you posted. I could or not agree, but the point is -Don't Do That!
Roe vs. Wade....again
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You have stuck my "I agree" to what I posted in another post making me think I agree with the one you posted. I could or not agree, but the point is -Don't Do That!
Recorded history indicated that the first slaves were white people held by dark skin people, the Moors. That was about 711AD so who cares.
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Centuries ago?
I didn't realize I was that old.
But I must be, because I can remember when this was happening.
:crying:Sorry, my bad...
Trade
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Funny, I had always thought that the ancient Romans had slaves and that that was quite a bit farther back than 1,000 years. Or has that history been since rewritten? And then there's all that mention of slaves in the Bible. But since I'm an Atheist I'll give you a pass on that.
Irrelevant. No moral judgment is being passed, or any opinion either. It is what it is.
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Our day in the barrel is coming. There is nothing you can do about. It's Karma. And Karma doesn't care what you think.
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Trade,
I don't understand why you are so intent on keeping the hate alive.
Why can't we move forward without anyone spending time in the barrel?
I'm not saying that we should forget but I am suggesting that we let it go and move forward together.
Bingo!This is being done to limit a woman's choices because it seems, we are increasingly becoming a threat to men. How fortuitous for these men in control, that a woman's high school, college, and early career years coincide with her most fertile years. How can a woman become a doctor, physicist, lawyer, poet, author, etc. which require years of education, if she's stuck having children she does not want? This is going to hurt economically because most families are two income families. And who will care for these children of unplanned pregnancies? She can't even get a menial job to make ends meet because technology is doing away with them. So her choice is to marry. A woman of the 21th century may find her position in society determined by her relationship to a man like it was in the 19th century. This is intolerable.
You are correct, I should have said, about 711AD, history actually should be rewritten because alot was omitted and then incorrectly written to eliminate certain contributions to mankind and the delevopment of the human race. Nothing wrong with a Atheist belief, an acquaintance attended college studing theology and later embraced the lack of the existence of God. I don't know...
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What you call hate, I think of as a sense of fairness. White people stole this country from the Native Americans and killed a whole bunch of them in the process. Then white people built a great amount of wealth from the stolen land on the backs of black slave labor. Now that they hold most of the land and most of the wealth they want to say, "Let's forget about the past and move on." As a white guy I can certainly understand the appeal of that. But when I put myself in the shoes of a Native American or a Black person I don't see it the same way. I want some payback. And let's be honest. Isn't that what's fueling the fear that many white people have of black and brown people? The fear that they might get what's coming to them?
I get torn on this
But, down deep, right or wrong, more or immoral, I think it should be the decision of the one carrying
…like every other freaking thing (in regard to the one saddled with the burden)
We humans have this power of choice thing
And no matter what yer station in life, decisions/choices get made
Horrible ones have been made by some leaders, affecting millions
But, as Trade notes, karma, be it soon or later, has its way
It is my eternal hope that we get some things right
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Actually, evidence of slavery goes back WAAAY before 711 AD. There is ample evidence to indicate that the Egyptian pyramids...built between 2500 and 1500 BC...were largely built with slave labor. Going back even further, many archeologists have uncovered evidence that Homo Sapien societies were usurping Neanderthals well over 500,000 years ago. Humans share One big similarity with nearly every other life form....that is "survival of the fittest"...and even today, the Strong continue to prey upon the Weak. Much of today's discussion on slavery centers around slave labor which was brought to the Americas in the 1600's. However, those slaves were "sold" to the British and Dutch slave traders by residents of Africa who preyed upon their weaker neighbors. The British and Dutch traders didn't go into the African bush to capture these slaves....rather, they just appeared at the ports and bought these slaves from other Africans.
Humans are probably the most Vile life form on the planet. No other species kills for pleasure, and no other species attacks their own. No matter how "civilized" we think we are, there is still a substantial number in our midst who would be better placed back in the days of the dinosaurs.
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