Run-in with a jerk

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Hmm, I have read this entire thread before I logged in. Seems everyone who has responded, has had a “run-in“ with a jerk. I’ll let others decide who I think the jerk is. 🙄

I am extremely impressed by @feywon responses.

As a rape survivor, I am greatly 🤬by what the OP has said and comparisons he has made. I was kidnapped and raped at seven, it was 1953. Locked in the dark, in a rabbit slaughtering shed for several hours, alone, cold, sitting with my legs drawn up against my chest, my arms wrapped around legs, my back against a wooden rabbit crate. Naked.

On a dirt floor covered in rabbit gunk, skins hanging from the ceiling. Rabbits in cages waiting to be slaughtered. And me, sitting on that filthy floor, leaning on a crate, for hours. Most children do not survive. My father found me.

I was a SURVIVOR-not a victim.

@senior chef -this thread should be locked, you should be banned
 
Aneeda72 said:
Hmm, I have read this entire thread before I logged in. Seems everyone who has responded, has had a “run-in“ with a jerk. I’ll let others decide who I think the jerk is. 🙄

I am extremely impressed by @feywon responses.

As a rape survivor, I am greatly 🤬by what the OP has said and comparisons he has made. I was kidnapped and raped at seven, it was 1953. Locked in the dark, in a rabbit slaughtering shed for several hours, alone, cold, sitting with my legs drawn up against my chest, my arms wrapped around legs, my back against a wooden rabbit crate. Naked.

On a dirt floor covered in rabbit gunk, skins hanging from the ceiling. Rabbits in cages waiting to be slaughtered. And me, sitting on that filthy floor, leaning on a crate, for hours. Most children do not survive. My father found me.

I was a SURVIVOR-not a victim.

@senior chef -this thread should be locked, you should be banned
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I am very sorry to hear of your experiences. As I attempted to say, perhaps poorly, is that people, both men and women, often carry the emotional trauma of childhood abuse and victimization as an adult, for many years. I did not mean to suggest that a rape victim and the victimization of men are the same thing. All I meant is that, men who lay down to a bully carry a shame that never goes away.

I too am a survivor of childhood abuse. I did learn a very valuable lesson, however. Bullies/abusers must be stood up to, every single time. You, as a child, could not protect yourself, and I sympathize.

So very sorry to hear that you took my words the wrong way. Please consider the possibility that not everyone has a gift of using the best words when describing an event.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Hmm, I have read this entire thread before I logged in. Seems everyone who has responded, has had a “run-in“ with a jerk. I’ll let others decide who I think the jerk is. 🙄

I am extremely impressed by @feywon responses.

As a rape survivor, I am greatly 🤬by what the OP has said and comparisons he has made. I was kidnapped and raped at seven, it was 1953. Locked in the dark, in a rabbit slaughtering shed for several hours, alone, cold, sitting with my legs drawn up against my chest, my arms wrapped around legs, my back against a wooden rabbit crate. Naked.

On a dirt floor covered in rabbit gunk, skins hanging from the ceiling. Rabbits in cages waiting to be slaughtered. And me, sitting on that filthy floor, leaning on a crate, for hours. Most children do not survive. My father found me.

I was a SURVIVOR-not a victim.

@senior chef -this thread should be locked, you should be banned
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I want to hug you Aneeda, that is all I can say ❤️❤️
Mais non, I do not think le chef should be banned because I believe this could be a learning curve for him, if he wants to learn of course.
 
I've just trawled through a whole 10 pages of this... :rolleyes: only because it was brought to my attention by another member .

I'm going to refrain from commenting about the topic, and believe me there was one point around page 5 where I could have got myself banned for replying to a vile comment made by the OP>.. . I was so angry., but his ignorance is his burden to bear forever... and I am putting him on ignore.. again..... however I'm only posting NOW...because the word R * pe... has been used again ...( horrible for anyone to have have suffered any kind of se*ual abuse) ... but admin @Matrix has repeatedly warned us that google will take this forum from us, if these words are used repeatedly.. so please, let's not use these se*ual words, use asterisks where possible.. and certainly do not let the actions of a Jerk...be the cause of a well run forum with all of our long time friendships being lost to us after all our years together..


reminder from Matrix....
A message to all members:

Please avoid using any sex related words, even you think it's family friendly. Google will warn me via Email, and I would have to delete the discussions, I have been warned like 50 times. If I can't use Google ads, I can't afford to run this forum.
 
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hollydolly said:
I've just trawled through a whole 10 pages of this... :rolleyes: only because it was brought to my attention by another member .

I'm going to refrain from commenting about the topic, and believe me there was one point around page 5 where I could have got myself banned for replying to a vile comment made by the OP>.. . I was so angry., but his ignorance is his burden to bear forever... and I am putting him on ignore.. again..... however I'm only posting NOW...because the word R * pe... has been used again ...( horrible for anyone to have have suffered any kind of se*ual abuse) ... but admin @Matrix has repeatedly warned us that google will take this forum from us, if these words are used repeatedly.. so please, let's not use these se*ual words, use asterisks where possible.. and certainly do not let the actions of a Jerk...be the cause of a well run forum with all of our long time friendships being lost to us after all our years together..


reminder from Matrix....
A message to all members:

Please avoid using any sex related words, even you think it's family friendly. Google will warn me via Email, and I would have to delete the discussions, I have been warned like 50 times. If I can't use Google ads, I can't afford to run this forum.
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Ha Ha. I can imagine who that other member was. Just another angry feminist who hasn't the vaguest idea of what a man feels. Odd thing about angry feminists, they seem to think that they, and they alone have feelings. How dare a man suggest that he has deep feelings !!!!

I've got a news flash for you, and that other member, I don't care what either of you think.
Have a nice angry day. Enjoy it ! Wallow in it !
Now that I think about it, be angry for weeks and weeks. Let your issues with men consume you.
 
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@senior chef: In your mind women are "angry feminists" because they bristled when you equated the violence and violation of r*pe with a request to to move your rolling shipping cart out of a bus aisle? Seems you've got a lot to learn about women. Some lessons in bus etiquette wouldn't hurt either.

Note that some enlightened SF men also chimed in that your analogy was inappropriate.

p.s. I have no issues with men in general, indeed I quite like most of them. There are some specific people I don't much like based on their character, attitudes and behavior though.
It has nothing to do with their genders.
 
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@senior chef: In your mind women are "angry feminists" because they bristled when you equated the violence and violation of r*pe with a request to to move your rolling shipping cart out of a bus aisle? Seems you've got a lot to learn about women. Some lessons in bus etiquette wouldn't hurt either.

Note that some enlightened SF men also chimed in that your analogy was inappropriate.

p.s. I have no issues with men in general, indeed I quite like most of them. There are some specific people I don't much like based on their character, attitudes and behavior though. It has nothing to do with their genders.
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You have completely missed to point. I did NOT equate r*** with moving my cart. Read my post on that VERY, VERY carefully. Take a deep breath, relax and read it again. (read my posts # 48 and 77)

The analogy I made was the AFTER EFFECTS ie the emotional baggage, that is carried when a man tucks tail, bends over, to another man.

Now, about angry feminists. Angry feminists are those women who have issues with men. They make a life of it. Without their anger, they would be nothing but empty shells.
 
What about happy feminists?;)

Seriously, if a woman states an opinion or reacts to something, it does not confer the label of feminist upon her. She is merely responding to the topic on hand. The definition of feminist is "a person who believes in bringing about the equality of the sexes (of women and men) in all aspects of public and private life." So, in the course of conversation, could it be possible that a woman is merely a woman responding to a topic, and not necessarily waving a flag of feminism?
 
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What about happy feminists?;)

Seriously, if a woman states an opinion or reacts to something, it does not confer the label of feminist upon her. She is merely responding to the topic on hand. The definition of feminist is "a person who believes in bringing about the equality of the sexes (of women and men) in all aspects of public and private life." So, in the course of conversation, could it be possible that a woman is merely a woman responding to a topic, and not necessarily waving a flag of feminism?
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Happy feminists ? Never met one. In order to be a feminist, a woman MUST have a certain degree of anger at men. Some feminists have MUCH, MUCH more anger than others.
Generally speaking, she blames men for her lot in life.
She truly believes that if men would just get out of her way, her life would be infinitely better.
 
@senior chef, if you honestly believe the aftereffects of being r@ped are equivalent to the emotional baggage from moving a roller cart when asked - even if asked aggressively, then you've got bigger issues than this forum can address.

Definition of Feminism: https://www.britannica.com/topic/feminism
"feminism, the belief in social, economic, and political equality of the sexes. Although largely originating in the West, feminism is manifested worldwide and is represented by various institutions committed to activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests.

Throughout most of Western history, women were confined to the domestic sphere, while public life was reserved for men. In medieval Europe, women were denied the right to own property, to study, or to participate in public life. At the end of the 19th century in France, they were still compelled to cover their heads in public, and, in parts of Germany, a husband still had the right to sell his wife. Even as late as the early 20th century, women could neither vote nor hold elective office in Europe and in most of the United States (where several territories and states granted women’s suffrage long before the federal government did so). Women were prevented from conducting business without a male representative, be it father, brother, husband, legal agent, or even son. Married women could not exercise control over their own children without the permission of their husbands. Moreover, women had little or no access to education and were barred from most professions. In some parts of the world, such restrictions on women continue today."

Are some feminists angry? Of course. But then, that's true of almost everyone who's had someone's knee on their necks as a way of keeping them powerless and reminding them of their "place."
 
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Okay, that's encouraging! Now, what if the woman started out friendly, but then happened to disagree with your viewpoint on something? Would that make her a man hating feminist?
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No of course not. My goodness, why would you think that?
We both know very well exactly what a man hating feminist is. And it has nothing to do with her opinion of a wide range of ideas.

Take art, for example. I have a friend here on SF and her opinion about art and mine differ widely. She remains my friend and I respect her opinion.
If , however, she started calling me nasty names, we would not remain friends much longer.

Note: now that people have read my #48 and 77 posts, and they can see very clearly that I was not comparing r*** with moving my cart, lets just see if any of them apologize for their nasty posts.
 
StarSong said:
@senior chef: In your mind women are "angry feminists" because they bristled when you equated the violence and violation of r*pe with a request to to move your rolling shipping cart out of a bus aisle? Seems you've got a lot to learn about women. Some lessons in bus etiquette wouldn't hurt either.
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How many times must I repeat myself ????? I did NOT equate r*** with moving my cart. I equated the after effects of trauma.
Of course if you believe that men can not have deep feelings then that's an entirely different issue.

If you still think so, then by all means, find where I said that and show us. (see my posts #48 and 77)
 
senior chef said:
You are forgetting something VERY important. If I allowed anyone to push me around, I'd have to live with the fact that I am a victim. I refuse to be a victim. The emotional impact of victimhood is a heavy burden to carry.
If I could use an analogy ? A woman who is r*ped, has become a victim of her attacker. She may, or may not have suffered physical trauma BUT the knowledge that she was victimized is a heavy emotional burden to carry. In other words the emotional trauma is often far, far worse than the actual physical trauma.
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senior chef said:
Not making any such comparison at all. The comparison is about the emotional issues if I just knuckled under and became a victim and the emotional trauma of a rape victim. For a man, to bend over and take abuse from another man is tantamount to being xxx.
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These are your posts #48 and #77.

You were referring here to the terrible emotional trauma you'd have experienced if you'd knuckled under by moving your rolling cart (that you acknowledged was partially blocking the bus aisle) when "aggressively" asked to move it.

You must be some delicate flower if such a minor incident (in which you were at fault, by the way) would cause you emotional trauma.
And they call women the weaker sex?
 
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